Reddish-Blue

I like the idea of playing Mazacar...but we're 1 player short in midfield. With Lampard ageing & the fact that Romeu is still learning, Meireles would of come in handy this season.

The only question is: which club is dumb enough to take Torres and his massive wages?

Even if Cahill has a shit game, no one will say anything about him because he's English. Seriously, the type of posts I read on this forum about Luiz, it's like he's the new Titus Bramble or something. I'm not saying that Luiz doesn't make costly errors, cause at times, he's like a headless chicken but why is that he plays worse with Cahill? I reckon a strong disciplined defensive coach like Clarke or Mourinho would make Luiz a solid defender. So maybe it's better for him, if he leaves Chelsea.

Yep, he was given the 'tag' of Scottish Wayne Rooney since his youth days at Celtic. The Kid is gifted, hopefully he makes our first team just like Chalobah, Josh and a few others.

At the start of the season, Luiz was probably our best defender. He and Terry seemed to have an understanding, then came all the injuries and suspension...and Luiz just started playing shit with Cahill. Luiz makes mistakes and Cahill's an average defender who also makes mistakes..put the two of them together and you're left with one of our worst CB pairings of recent times. I don't get why RDM persists in using the Luiz - Cahill pairing. I mean unless Brana needs a rest or he's injured, use Brana - Cahill...and when JT gets back, play him with Luiz.

We have some absolute idiots on this forum as well. I feel bad for Danny, he needs to leave Chelsea to further his career.

If Luiz needs to be sold then we only have 2 CB's left at the club. JT and Brana.

When fit, our best defence would be Azpi - JT - Luiz - Cole. I'll never understand all the hating on Luiz. He's a talented defender, he just needs a more disciplined partner. Luiz makes mistakes..but he always seems to make more mistakes/odd decisions when he's playing with Cahill. Maybe there's a communication problem/lack of understanding between them?

Oh my bad, I misunderstood the question by didierforever. In terms of his original question, I don't recall a UCL champion getting knocked out in group stage in the past 10 years. However, between 04/05 and 07/08 seasons, every champion was eliminated in the first knockout round of the following season.

Why would we get knocked out? All we need is a draw at Turin...and if we can't manage at least a draw against similar level opposition, we don't deserve to play in the knockout rounds.

A whole host of clubs would want to take him for that price. Walcott would add more than depth, I reckon he could be another game changer off the bench.

He's actually been getting worse for the past 2 years. The decision to buy Torres made no sense. He was clearly a player on the decline. I think Roman bought him so that he couldn't score goals against us for Liverpool.

LOL at the last one.

Apparently we enquired about Torres, just like United and Liverpool did whilst he was an Atletico player in 05/06...Atletico asked for 25 million and he ended up signing for Liverpool.. And then 5 years later, we end up signing him for twice the price tag. I'll never understand the Torres signing.

Sturridge would be better suited playing off a target man or in a 2 striker system. Playing him on the wings in a 4-2-3-1 system just leaves our RB/LB more exposed. I'd be surprised if he stays at Chelsea beyond this season because he's not getting many minutes and he's not suited to the lone striker role.

We win and we're through. Hope Sturridge starts the match.

City have 3 goal scoring forwards (excluding Super-Mario, not even playing). We have none.

We finally have a proper RB in Azpi. Ivanovic was alright at RB but he never seemed 100% comfortable.

Clearly its Cahill - Luiz that isn't working together. We seem to do fine when it's Terry - Luiz, Brana - Cahill, even Terry - Cahill.

The day Torres leaves Chelsea, everyone will be happy.

Chelsea were asking too much money? Malouda couldn't agree a deal with 2 Brazilian clubs and even Lille/Lyon decided to pull out of negotiations when they saw his wage demands.

Rubbish game, pathetic result. Basically to sum up: RDM uses Cahill - Luiz..even though it's our weakest CB pairing RDM uses Mikel - Romeu..even though we didn't really need 2 DM's RDM uses Torres who is just useless.

They might be financially weak but from what i've heard from Milan supporters/followers, they want to build the new team around El Shaarawy & Mattia De Sciglio (young promising defender). I don't see them selling unless someone pays over the top money...like 35-40 million.

I think we already have 2 young central defenders with alot of potential. Kalas (on loan at Vitesse) & Chalobah. In the case of Chalobah, he'd make a great midfielder or defender, he just seems to have that maturity beyond his years type of personality.

I'm guessing if Torres is included in the Falcao deal, Atletico might lower their valuation by 5-10 million.