different level

Demichelis looks very shaky.

I really thought Schalke are going to trouble us (maybe at least in the match on Veltins Arena) but we got two 3-0 wins. Alright then. A win against Basel and we're winning the group.

We stayed 2nd, but at this stage the position is not so important, the number of points is. I'd rather sit fifth in the standings, trailing the leader by 3 points than be 2nd with 5 points behind.

No cock ups here. Jose said he made 11 mistakes today, well he can make 11 changes to the starting lineup for all I care, just win the damn match and prove the slip up at Sports Direct Arena was a one-off.

I really hate it when we play in the early Saturday afternoon. A performance like this and I don't wan't to hear anything football related for the rest of the weekend.

I ABSOLUTELY hate the fact that we got another away match which is our third in this competition. Meanwhile some teams like Spuds are getting only home matches. The FA needs to find a way to guarantee a balance between the home and away fixtures for every team in the tournament and the same regulation should be applied for the FA cup as well..

Nice! Arsenal never looked like scoring. It felt like we played Swindon again

Finally, we've beaten those bastards! And in the sweetest way possible. KTBFFH!

Watching United right now makes me feel sorry that we dropped points at OT.

If they finish third in their group they're going to the EL, so that also wouldn't make their schedule less busy.

Thanks, I think that clears it up. Anyway It's highly unlikely to have the need to apply those rules in the end.

It was different with us and Shakhtar. We had the same number of points but they had better head to head record (by conceiding less goals in the home fixture). However in that case there were only two teams in question. In the possibility that I suggested we have 3 teams with the same number of points with their head to head records cancelling each other out. Actually, there is a similar situation in the standings in that group right now. Arsenal 3 2 0 1 5 3 +2 6 Borussia Dortmund 3 2 0 1 6 3 +3 6 Napoli 3 2 0 1 4 4 0 6 Marseille 3 0 0 3 2 7 −5 0 Considering we are looking the head to head games: Arsenal beat Napoli but lost to Dortmund, while Dortmund on the other hand lost to Napoli and all the teams are tied in points. So why are Arsenal first? The head to head tiebreaker is not working under these conditions and Dortmund have better goal difference.

Hopefully they'll sign him and he stays there for a while, so he can laugh when they get relegated in the end of next season

Just had a look at Arsenal's group again and was thinking of the following scenario. Knowing that head to head games is the primary tiebreaker when two teams finish with equal points, then what's the procedure if: 1. Dortmund, Napoli and Arsenal finish equal on points 2. Dortmund have better head to head record against Arsenal 3. Napoli have better head to head record against Dortmund 4. Arsenal have better head to head record against Napoli If that happens then head to head games are ignored and the criteria is the teams' goal difference in all the matches, right?

I could barely watch the game because the picture in my stream was freezing in every 20 seconds, but obviously I'm really pleased with the outcome. Torres for MOTM!

So we know Schurrle and Cole are unavailable. That means Bertrand has to step up and Jose can give De Bruyne a start after his solid games for Belgium last week.

Can't see why so many people are so eager to move Cech out. He's just 31. That's a great football age for a keeper and the way I see it he has at least 5 more years at the very top level and why not even more - look at what Van der Sar did in United. Not underestimating Courtois, he's a great young keeper, but I don't expect our GK situation to change anytime soon. By loaning him every year his stock keeps rising and and we should cash in on him at some point IMO.

God, I hate the international breaks! It feels like this match is so far ahead in time.

Brilliant goal, Willi! I'd like to see a lot more of these stuff from him

Who cares if he outscores our strikers while playing for Everton? With our history with the strikers there are no guarantees he was going to do the same thing here. I like Lukaku, but I'd rather trust Jose's choice than fall for the media BS that we should regret loaning him.

It's too early to make a general assessment of Eto'o, although I agree that so far he's been below par. While I think (would like to think) that he's going to improve I don't see him turn into our super scorer and the man to lead our attack. But who knows, time will tell.

You might say I'm a whiny bastard because I'm complaining even though we won, but our finishing was poor again and I'm still pissed at Willian for his decision to ruin a 100% scoring chance.

Don't be so obsessed with the standings. We're only 5 matches into the championship. And don't worry about spuds, we'll win on three points lane on Saturday

Just win this one ffs. I can somehow accept the fact that so far we barely look like championship contenders and our game is a bit off, we're only 4 matches in the season. However, matches like this one should be won, regardless of anything if we want to be in a good position to challenge for the title at some point.