Geez... this Torres debate always gets very tense, alot of personal insults that is unneeded. Lets keep it chill guys, dont make the more reasonable posters tired of reading 3 pages long angry arguments about torres. I am a Torres fan, even before he went to chelsea and i supported him so strongly so far, but honestly it is hard to do that recently. I will always wish for his success here and i will always support him as i support all chelsea players, but that measly 11 clear cut chances are partly his fault too, during his first 6 months i did see players not passing to him when he is in a good position but nowadays he doesnt seem to be in the right position at the right time. The newcastle game was the best game so far.