generaldane

Never.
Number 1: I am not an American, so that fat fucking lying bag of tiny white-rage dicks was never my president and never will be.
Number 2: In terms of the inner core essence of Trump, it is as if someone took everything that was bad about America, everything that is bad about humanity, scraped it up off the floor and out of the gutter, wrapped it all up in an old rancid sausage casing, and then taught it to make noises with its pseudo face.

I don't post here much, but I frankly don't give a fuck if he cost 100m or not I say get him the fuck out, if not for his blatant racism for his absolute stupidity in videoing it, if I were any of his teammates I'd never be able to look on him the same way again regardless of whatever apology he may be forced into, so in short fuck him.

I have a friend teaching English in Argentina and base on what he have told me I am more incline to believe this than most

Seriously I rarely comment here specifically because how embarrassing some fans are

Seriously I rarely comment here specifically because how embarrassing some fans are

It ain't fun but whining like children ain't going to make anything better

I have been lurking this forum for years and its quite rare to see someone talking actual sense here so kudos

I have been lurking this forum for years and its quite rare to see someone talking actual sense here so kudos

Typical twitter quotes taken out of context.
He was asked if he has been told if its strictly until the end of the season and he said: "no, but I think the role and the explanation of my role speaks for itself and the period that Im here for." 
Also where did he say that we are in the title race? I saw the presser and he didnt say that. Another fake twitter quote. Never trust twitter guys. Its either fake statements or taken out of context.
I always told you to be careful what u wish for. U wanted Potter gone so badly that u didnt think about the consequences. For me it was always clear that we will appoint the new manager in the summer and not immediately. Most sane coaches who arent desperate to find a job want a fresh start after a finished season to start all over. Thats the case now as it seems. Maybe u thought that after Potter we can just snap and hire the new guy immediately, but that is not how things work, not at this stage of the season. So it was always clear we would have a caretaker for the rest of the season. And tbf, it doesnt really matter who that is. Now its Lamps, better than some unrelated random guy a la Benitez or sth like that. 
U all agreed that hiring Potter was a rushed decision so this time the board is evaluating for a longer period to get it right this time. Exactly the right thing to do.

Would not mind it if it was let's say a direct swap for ziyech. 
We need a CB, McGuire is a good one. He should simply never have been bought for 80m or have been touted as United's answer to vvd. 
Also, i will be very careful analysing any forward at Chelsea and any defender at United. Simply because of those team's respective mids. We lack any creativity resulting in lack if scoring opportunities, while United lacks any defensive nuance resulting in the CBs being hopelessly exposed. 
Lastly, if Silva can make sarr look serviceable, i am sure Harry would be more than fine. We should redirect that money on replacing jorgi with fdj/rice And improving our mid. 

The only way I would find it resonable to start hating Lampard is if we was to take a giant dump on the club's logo, am I saddened to see him at City? of fucking course but so I hate him for it? FUCK NO! Lampard has done some much for the club in all the years he was here that its borderline ungrateful to suddenly start hating him now because he's playing for City.

The only way I would find it resonable to start hating Lampard is if we was to take a giant dump on the club's logo, am I saddened to see him at City? of fucking course but so I hate him for it? FUCK NO! Lampard has done some much for the club in all the years he was here that its borderline ungrateful to suddenly start hating him now because he's playing for City.

Not a single defender that plays these days is better than prime Terry, Puyol, Maldini, Cannavaro, Blanc, Deschamps, Helguera etc. Not a single one.

Sifting through past pages, it's the same stuff that has plagued this board for majority of its lifespan. Hazard is never going to satisfy some of us if this continues. A verbose one, yes but needs to be added to the discussion.
(1) People expecting far too much too soon from Hazard by looking at him through the lens of Ronaldo and Messi. You....just....can't. Every player is different and every career takes different routes. Ronaldo and Messi have been at big clubs their entire careers. They've been playing Champions league since they were 18, making deep runs into the knock-out phases. Hell, both had even won the thing at 23. Hazard on the other hand has only played 2 seasons of Champions league in his ENTIRE career. He's only been in the knock-out phase one time in his career and that was last season were he also got injured as well. The Champions league is the highest level of football and Hazard has been unlucky (for various reasons, club, injuries etc) not to have played a lot in that competition yet. It's no surprise his development as a player is slower than Ronaldo and Messi. This is an incredibly important point.
There's also the fact that he's spent majority of his career in the French league while Ronaldo and Messi have been in two of the best leagues in the world for all their careers. This again is going to affect development and status as player as the French league doesn't offer the stiffest of opposition, to say the least. Ronaldinho and to a lesser extent, Zidane only showed their full class when they moved to better leagues. Like Jose said, "give him time".
(2) Overrating players from other clubs and underrating our own. This also applies to other players but especially to Hazard. Case in point, Robben has an outstanding World Cup and all of a sudden, he's the player Hazard should aspire to be. Bale scores in the Champions league final (despite doing nothing all game) and Hazard should be more like Bale. I even read someone put Bale in the same category as Ronaldo and Messi when making this comment. James freaking Rodriguez is amazing for Colombia and Hazard should apply himself more. And on and on and on.
(3) Criticizing him for being "inconsistent". The opposite is infact the case and the meaning of the world has become lost in football circles . There is a difference between being an inconsistent player (i.e Nani) and having a bad game/not performing at your normal level for a brief period. You can't be inconsistent and be considered a world class player or even a good one. Hazard, for such a young player has been considered a consistent player all through his career. He was certainly far more consistent at 23 than a certain Arjen Robben was. How quickly we forget. The inconsistent label was unfairly thrown at him in his first season in English football by the media hacks. It was his first season at the club, of course he was going to be shaky in his performances. All his achievements for Lille were simply thrown under the bus. Luckily, his performance level last season shut a lot of mouths in the media and we no longer hear a lot of that. But unfortunately, a small minority of forum members still repeat that nonsense.
(4) Not being a "leader". This apparently is the new one. A 23 year old player in his 3rd season with us is all of a sudden supposed to lead. I wonder why the same isn't demanded from some of his other teammates. And the big games that Hazard did lead in are not spoken of or simply forgotten. Let's forget Man City away and remember Crystal Palace away. Makes sense.

(1) Hazard goals/assists in the last 3 seasons: Robben goals/assists in the last 3 seasons:
2011/12 : 20 goals 17 assists 2011/12 : 18 goals 6 assists
2012/13 : 14 goals 19 assists 2012/13 : 13 goals 10 assists
2013/14 : 17 goals 9 assists 2013/14 : 24 goals 10 assists
Total : 51 goals 45 assists Total : 55 goals 26 assists
Total games : 156 games started Total games : 111 games started
Infact, according to ESPN, Robben has only scored 20+ goals in a season twice in his ENTIRE career. Or do you think every winger is like Ronaldo (the guy is not even a true winger anymore but that's another topic) can score 50+ goals a season? Or even 20+ goals? At least if you're going to bullshit about Hazard and his numbers comparable to other players, get your facts right before misleading other people with nonsense. Hazard's goals/assist ratio is incredible.
(2) Yes, I just shudder at the fact that Hazard is not at the level as three of the best players of all time. Can you just imagine the incredulousness of that? How dare he?
Some of the rubbish that gets posted on this thread (and the threads of some of our other players as well) is incredibly cringeworthy to say the least.

Not even then

Not even then

Yea I am disheartened by some of the sentiments being uttered here and find it funny how some fans get up in arms when a player leave considering how quickly they get turned on when this aren't all fine and dandy.

I don't because then someday down the road they could have another amazing player in the #5 position (and Italians are more loyal to the 1-11 numeration than England is) and he won't be able to use his position rightful number because of a guy who was there nearly 100 years ago (supposing it happens way down the road).
That's the main point, a club's history is never-ending. If we start retiring shirts we're in serious risk of 100 years from now having had 10 retired numbers which is nonsense. Also if you have the prerogative to someone, it means you should give to everyone else that marked the club's history in the same way. The moment you don't, you're diminishing players that were as loyal or successful here as those others. If we retire #8 now it means we should have retired a few others in the past and that we should retire #26 when Terry stops playing. Then let's suppose Aké or whoever in the next decade has a similar history, then we retire #6 as well. Then in two decades from now the biggest player who's ever played for this club retires #10, etc, etc, etc.
Football clubs are quite new historically, that's why it seems like the right thing to do, but it isn't. Unless the world ends soon or football stops existing, those clubs will have hundreds years of history and we'll diminish a lot of legends that didn't have their numbers retired. And what does it take to retire a number? To stay a long time? To be brought from the academy and play the whole life here? To win a lot of silverware here? To score a bunch of special or important goals? Can you see how many players we already had in our history that fit those categories and their numbers are there for the take? And how many more we'll (hopefully) produce? Silly stuff imo.
Build statues or plaques, but don't retire numbers. There are many ways to homage and honor a legend.

In all honesty I don't get this concept that a player has to make something because of a shirt number. It's stupid as players are irreplaceable in their history in the club. If Cesc Fàbregas isn't here to replace Frank Lampard by taking his position in the pitch, why would Oscar have to because of number?Taking someone's number and having to live it up makes no sense. A Chelsea player has to live up the honor to play for us, not the player who previously worn said number.
Oscar has to show his own value or else he'll lose space or even leave. It shouldn't have nothing to do with Lampard's history here. The only way to honor shirts' numbers is retiring them, and I'm happy we don't do that often at the Bridge, it makes no sense in my head to retire numbers. Players are temporary, the club is permanent. Numbers a little random like #26 I could maybe agree, but from 1-11 or even 1-22 I don't like to be retired at all. Players come and go and nobody should feel more responsibility because of that. The responsibility comes from the badge at their chest and the color they're wearing (and that's a huge responsibility), not some number...

Pretzels in all forms suck though

People need to get over the idea that a player either will or won't be a regular fixture in matches. Mourinho has flexibility with this squad and in some games Ramires is a must and in others he shouldn't be near the team.
In the 433 we're seemingly tighter and more compact, which is where his athleticism and bite is useful. In the more expansive 4231 he simply doesn't have the passing ability we need to open teams up. That was his problem last season, where his deficiencies were highlighted against teams who sat deep.
He's the player for matches where the first thought is 'don't lose' so he'll feature in the big matches.

I really hope he bounce back from how woeful last season was, as I genuinely like the guy but was really frustrated watching him play for the most part last season.

I really hope he bounce back from how woeful last season was, as I genuinely like the guy but was really frustrated watching him play for the most part last season.

Really? He has only played a few games for us in preseason and suddenly he should be captain. What a load of toss. As good he is I don't think he should be anywhere near the armband.