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How so? When Ba isn't scoring the goals, he still gave just that little bit more than Torres to the team. He still make threatening runs in and around the opposition's defence and offer better off the ball movements (think how he got into positions to score but just didn't). And not to mention, his hold up play is so much better than Torres's in helping us keep the ball, win free kicks and bring others into play. With Torres, he's like a statue upfront who doesn't move and more often than not, get bullied off the ball far too easily. Too easy for people to completely missed these aspects just because Ba hasn't scored a lot. It's just like how people are wanking over Torres because he scored a few goals past average to poor oppositions in the Europa League and Confederations Cup when in actual fact, his performances have hardly even been average to say the least. His goals has masked his poor performances such as when he did play in the Premier League against better oppositions, he hardly ever looked like scoring and of course, he went 4 1/2 months before knocking one past an opposition!

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Think Ramires might have meant something like Mourinho being a 'demanding' person as opposed to an actual angry one. Mistranslated possibly.

http://as.com/diarioas/2013/07/04/english/1372966134_386192.html

You said we won't buy Cavani (or any other ST for that matter) because we supposedly already have enough of them. Hence why I said what I said in the previous post.

You have just made that painful feeling even worse...

Based on that, I could easily turn around and say to you that the only reason you know or believe they aren't true is simply because you want it to be that way...

Erm, that wasn't even the issue I was alluding to in the first place. And on Schurrle you mention there, he was bought more for adding depth and providing a different option (in terms of operating in his main position at LW). If you want to talk about depth and width, then we probably should be buying a right winger, if anything.

Did not have enough width? Width?! You meant depth right? Buying players like van Ginkel will add depth in terms of numbers but the quality is not necessarily there. We need depth not just in terms of having numbers but also a sufficient amount of quality in the squad. And yes, we have Mourinho as the manager this time around but as I have said many times, he's great but not god. He can only work with what he's got. He can't magically give players additional quality or improvements in it, especially with the younger ones.

Transition is transition. Mourinho would still want to challenge strongly in the Premier League and Champions League, the 2 major competitions for us, and win it. Moreover, there needs to be a balance of experience and youth to the team. Right now, we have an influx of the latter and not enough of the former that will elevate us to the next level and fix the immediate problems in the team. We could find ourselves in battling to finish in the Top 4 again if we don't address the right areas in the team for next season.

Daily Mail have dubbed him as the Dutch's Justin Bieber...

Your skepticism on this whole transfer saga is perhaps understandable considering unreliability of the media these days BUT given this story has been reported for yonks now and by so many parts of the media, it seems somewhat foolish to doubt that we are actually pursuing Cavani. They might not be entirely true but some form of truth is there. Your counter argument is basically based on one quote from a club president, who you said is an idiot which is probably enough not to even take him seriously regardless of what he says.

If he joins them, West Brom would be the 11th club he has played in his career with Steve Clarke's side being the 6th Premier League club.

Not gonna be a permanent fixture in the team yet. If he stays, he will get games but not consistently. And we still don't know if he's going to be loaned out or not. Anyway the point here is, this purchase is not going to solve our immediate problems in that midfield. He has quality yes but not a finished article just yet that can come in and improve our team straight away. Agree with that. Mentioned somewhere before that it gives us a great platform to work on in the future without having to buy players like every season. But my concern is solving the major problems we have right now in the team with ready made players first.

Don't understand how can people think that strikeforce would be good enough, even if the midfield players behind them can score goals, if we are to achieve big things next season and win the major trophies. Torres will be well...Torres. Ba is good enough and I believe he will improve but he's not a top class striker that will lead us. Lukaku has done well but is still young and got loads to improve on before he can even lead the frontline on his own for us. And I don't think Schurrle should even be considered as a striker. Yes, he has played there before for Mainz but his main position and attributes now lies out wide as an inside forward/winger. If we wanna list Schurrle as a striker, then we should probably include Moses in there as well. None of the 3 strikers we have now are good enough. We need more. We need a top notch striker that will take us to a new level attacking wise and give us that X-Factor, that bit of unpredictability, putting in fear into the opposition's defenders like we did before. Otherwise, things will become predictable and we'll have to rely a lot on our attacking midfielders/midfielders to bang us most of the goals. Moreover sooner or later, Torres and Ba will go and come then, we'll only have Lukaku in our hands and there doesn't seem to be any quality strikers coming through the academy for us. If we can get someone like Cavani, then it will help us and solve much of our problems, not just now but also for the future. For someone who watches the Serie A, you should know better that Aurelio De Laurentiis is a wacki character who will do and say some silly stuff and that one shouldn't always take him too seriously. Furthermore, he is the president of a club whose biggest prize asset is attracting interests from other big clubs and it's rather obvious that he would want to cause some stir and get clubs into a bidding war etc by saying things 'Chelsea have not contacted me', 'PSG have not offered anything for Cavani' and things like that. You chose not to believe much at all in transfer rumours and what players' agent tend to say but yet seem to trust what a club president say when they all have similar objectives to achieve.

Not that I'm totally against this transfer but we seem more busy right now in acquiring more young talents for the future than addressing the key areas with ready-made players.

LOL! Think we all could easily write up 30 reasons as to why we shouldn't keep Torres. What nonsense! He is only considered 'in form' because of the goals scored in the Europa League and Confederations Cup against 3rd/4th tier level oppositions. Apart from that, his performances in other aspects have been woeful. People said he has been scoring goals at the back of last season but yet conveniently forgot he went 4 1/2 months without scoring a goal against better quality teams in the Premier League. To keep him because he's supposedly in the best form of his career here would be absolute tragic. It's hardly even 'best form' and for the level we're playing it, that's not good enough! Those 2 reasons are a joke and very superficial. We can easily get another player who has a winning mentality, a strong character including that is committed and not some weak pussy like Torres that will contribute so much more than what Torres will give to us. And committed to the cause? All he does is start the season decent enough, goes missing mid-way and then suddenly turning up in the back end of the season. Not to mention, he then goes to the media and start talking trash about how he wants to stay, see out his contract, repay the fans' faith in him bla bla bla but yet, hardly prove his words and perform consistently on the pitch. Cringeworthy all around, that article and what Torres does.

Cech spoke about Mourinho in his interview with the Guardian. http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2013/jul/02/petr-cech-chelsea-rock-for-people?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter Benitez doesn't like this...

Petr Cech: 'José Mourinho would rather lose than just take a draw' Cech's interview with the Guardian.

If there is one good thing he has shown so far, is that he definitely has a good sense of style or fashion.

From 'The Times'... For larger version, click the link below. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BOK5f9WCEAAPzS3.jpg:large