Fernando
Everything posted by Fernando
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No I meant that they allow other believes there.
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The fact that they have Israeli Palestinian shows that it's not an only Jewish state. They also have Christians and messianic Jewish.
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Didn't you said that they have Israeli Palestinian?
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Well that's the same thing people say about USA that is this bad nation and ask that shenanigans but I can go there freely with no problems. Israeli structure is there. The people need to just become citizens of the nation.
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The Democratic nation is there, it's Israel. Just that the people fighting Israel just need to negotiate for Israeli citizenship then trying to negotiate for creating a Palestinian state. I think that would create even more problems then anything, Gaza being a nation. The easiest route is have all that place be in total control of Israel and all the people be Israelis citizen. Have the right and protection like any other Israelie. Now it won't be perfect at the beginning because as you said it's past. Kinda like Blacks, some blacks still live in the past and others have moved on. For people that want peace that for me seems to be the best solution. Long term all the segregation and hatred might be less in say 50 years under one single nation. Was watching a documentary about a dance instructor in Jaffa trying to bring Israeli Jews and Israeli Palestine together. Was hard but eventually they started working together. So a one nation under Israel in the long term might work then having Israel and another nation in conflict next to each other.
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I remember when people was saying David Luiz was the next captain. I'm like, men let the guy at least play for a full season!
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So it was the English fault then? Damn you England! But in all seriousness now that Israel is a full fledged nation they are going to fight for everything just like any modern nation. So they aren't going away unless you wipe them out as Iran leaders have said. The dismantlement of Israel as one of our good English friend here has said will never happen unless Israel is completely wipe out. But by then no one will be able to live there because of Nuclear waste, radioactivity and what not. So that's not going to happen without Israel USA and other nations having intervene and fought. With all these issues for me I see no other solution then just to give all those ethnicity Israeli passport. A creation of an official Palestine nation will not solve the problem, will just make it worse if all these conflicts are anything to go by. That whole area needs to be under Israeli control and the people that live there need to be Israeli citizens. But they must also need to obey the laws like any person being naturalized. Like in America you might have people of Mexican decent, but they become Americans and they respect the laws and what not. They do keep their history by celebrating things like 5 de mayo and such.
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No it would be different because they don't live there. It's like Israel coming to Ecuador and taking land... They live there, those are the borders all the way till Egypt, right? So the people that have lived there are now just part of Israel, like the Israeli Palestinian ethnicity. Is that right or wrong? As far as being oppressed, abused and mass murdered I didn't saw that in the video. Just saw a bunch of guys trying to protest against an Army. And then one guy who went to jail but when he was release the whole town celebrated. I mean what the hell is that all about? The people that live in Gaza, have an organization that operates terrorism. If there was no terrorist organization, Israel would not go to war to that region.
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Never said it's okay. Just saying that Palestinian nation doesn't exist. Only government that exist is Israel. And the only country that has sovereign claim there is Israel. And in Israel there's different ethnicity that are not just jews, like the Israeli Palestinian. So it's not like the Palestinian ethnicity is getting extinct.
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Well what's stupid about pointing out that there's no Palestinian government but Israel government. The other government closest to it are Egypt right?
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Now your sounding like those conspiracy theories guys. But whatever that's your opinion.
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Your argument doesn't make sense. I said if a sovereign nation exist then the government will fight for the land. Like if Israel takes land from Egypt then that would be an act of war on Egypt sovereignty right? There's no government just what the UN wants to make. And that what the UN has tried to make is a place for terrorism to run wild.
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What? It's the only democracy in the middle east. A country I can visit and feel safe, except for terrorist attacks from Hamas. Hamas is the one being funded. Cause if Gaza is a prison as people say, then where they get money for all those rockets and what not?
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Wow how polite and respectful you are. Can't explain anything good. Alright good day sir.
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Well whatever is called by the United nations that's the area where the terrorists organization is, Hamas....And Hamas attacks Israel where jews and Palestinians-Israelite live..... So it leaves no option for Israel to attack.
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If a true government exist they will be fighting for it. The only real government there is Israel. And in Israel there's an ethnicity called Israeli-Palestinian. So it doesn't seem like Palestinian are going extinct. They have no government so there government by default must be Israel, right? And thus they call themselves Israeli-Palestinian. Kinda like saying African Americans?
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No government? So then Palestinian thing doesn't exist then. Why you call them Palestinian? So then if no government exist then that makes Israel the owner of the lands cause there's no government to act on behind of the land. Is not like Israel taking land from Egypt...
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That my point is that if it's Palestinian land then it's the government that has to be fighting there with their army.
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Just 30 minutes into this things and it feels like a bunch people protesting for some dry barren lands. Now here's the thing before going even further, if the land belongs to the country the country will decide what to do right? In this case does it belongs to the Palestine government? yes? no? If yes then why there's no government interaction from Palestine? Why is it only regular people? If it belongs to Israel then they doing the right thing by putting patrols to guard their property and what not. Because if it belongs to Israel, then Israel makes the law. This is just what I notice from the first 30 minutes. Will continue to watch, but hopefully it's not more of the same of some people protesting against some wasted and empty land..... Especially when it's people vs Israel government. Seriously that is just ridiculous. If the land belongs to Palestinian, then Palestinians authority should be there fighting for the land! P.S. This was funny. Some guy gets out of jail and the whole village is celebrating! lol wtf is up with these people?
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Okay I saw that documentary. It has some true points about the stereotype of Arabs, but then that's the norm in America. Stereotype for Blacks, Hispanics, Jews and such. Next documentary please.
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That wasn't in the documentary.....
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All that is just an outcome of this. But Israel had to defend themselves and did the right thing acting against such hostile nations that have come out and said they want them wipe of. By the way my image of the Arabs is what the leaders keep saying. They want Israel wipe out and all that. So I don't trust them that easily when they make such statements. Okay now I will look at your other link and will give my thoughts afterwards.
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Do you think it's wise to start with such formation against team we already know will park the bus at the Bridge? Like say Burnley at home? Or still too risky and best wait to see how things pan out in the second half?
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Yes that's what I got from that documentary. All these Arabs leader threatening Israel sovereign and how many leaders express for Israel to be wiped out. I say you have to be an imbecile to come with such posture after the Jews suffer what they suffer in Nazi Germany. No one wanted to take Hitler serious and didn't thought he would follow on his words. And how did he took over many nations? By using those lightening attacks. Israel for me did the smart thing and learning from it's past. Not to just sit there while all these hostile forces gather around you and make threats. Act fast and swift in destroying their Air Force. It was brilliant. Now if Israel hadn't done that of acting fast and destroying their Air Force it truly would have been David vs Goliath. And then the fool of the Egyptian leader has the audacity to blame USA and Britain for helping.....
