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Worst part is that it makes you watch the commercial before it telling you that! Those darn French capitalists!

Juve can match almost anything we offer him unless it's something ridiculous like 200k per week. And the Serie A may not be on the same level as the EPL in terms of importance, but it's not the Ligue 1 either. The Serie A is still one of the most watched leagues in the world with quite a lot of quality. I honestly rate it higher than La Liga where you only have 3 quality teams while in Serie A you have 6-7 teams who can beat any PL team on their day (just like you have 6-7 PL teams who can beat any Serie A team on their day). Of course that is debatable but what isn't is that Serie A is one of the biggest 4 leagues in Europe. Plus, Juve are a bigger team relative to their league than we are relative to ours. Be honest, if you were in his shoes, would you move from Juve right now?

Yeah, I never feel he has a point he's trying to make. He just mumbles half-meaningless phrases.

Yeah but it won't make him think. Why would he leave? He's very happy there. he loves the manager who has put all his trust in him, he plays almost every single game, he has a chance to win everything, and he's become vital to his team that play a system and style of football that suite him. Why in the world would he want to change that?

You're mistaken Loans in the "local loans" period can never exceed 90 days. But he can renew it in January.

So...about this Ba guy..

Errm, guys: Absolutely NO chance Pogba is going to leave Juve anytime soon. It was just an example Agnelli was using. He could have said the same about Vidal or Asamoah.

Yeah, it is.

They must mean 51 not 15. Honest mistake..

Nope. He was actually being serious!

'Arry and Jamie feeling bitter and annoyed.,,,every time you think Munich couldn't get better, it somehow does!

Thibaut and Cech are both excellent keepers. The difference is that Cech is our "Get out of jail free" card now, while Courtois, may not be that good at the moment, can be our keeper for more than 10 years. So it's never going to be an easy decision. It's a choice between short-term success and long term-success.

Plenty of defensive faults that get overlooked. Just go watch their game against Cardiff this season where Bellamy made a fool of him all game. Yet, he still got MOTM even though he was probably one of Everton's worst men on the pitch. That's what I mean by grossly overrated by the media.

Baines is an excellent LB who is currently probably better than Cole, but he's been grossly overrated by the media; he is no where near world-class like Cole was up till 2010.

Nonsense. The return of Jose agreed months before it was announced.

Right now I hate the international break because it broke the momentum that we've built over the past couple of weeks which we could have really used going into the next few matches.

Alright ladies, is there a point to all this? Let it go, please...

That is exactly the point I was trying to make originally: If we had a 20+ league goals per season striker, we won't be playing the current system and our midfield won't be scoring as many goals as now since less chances will be falling their way and more to the striker. So even though we'd change the system, it doesn't necessarily mean that the team as whole will score much more goals. I don't want to go into debate on whether or not we would actually change the system because it is purely hypothetical, but we've made around 200m investment between fees and wages in the attacking midfielders our system is currently built around. I'm not too sure we would just change the system that easily. Swindon? Steaua? Those are league one level defenses that we'll barely a few times a season. I'm talking about the level of defenses that we would face on a regular basis. Plus Eto'o must have taken about 5-6 shots from distance against Steaua. So the 17 chances are by no means all clear-cut chances. The point is we are not creating enough chances for our strikers to expect them to score in every game. To compare, United, despite struggling in creating chances, have created 42 chances for their strikers this season in the league while Liverpool have created 20 chances for Sturridge alone.

You're completely taking the attacking system out of the equation. You're assuming that strikers will perform the same no matter what the system is which is just ridiculous. Falcao had a whole system built around him. The other ten players on the pitch were just trying to get Falcao to score when Athletico had the ball. He had something like 60%(EDIT: 52% to be precise) of his team's goals by himself! Same for RVP last season, while our strikers role last season and to some extent this season is to create space for the AMs to run into. This season, in the league, only 17 of the 79 chances created by us have fallen to either Torres, Eto'o or Ba. That's 21%! So no, the majority of the chances are not falling to our strikers. Falcao had a conversion rate of 22% last season. Cavani had 18%. That means that you would need to create 5-6 chances for them per game if you want them to score every game. There is absolutely no chance we could do that with our current system that is built around the three players behind the striker.

Iain Dowie just said that Heskey had "blistering pace"

That's the fun part!

I'm not saying that the strikers are not getting any chances, but they're not getting the majority of the chances like they do in teams like United or Everton (except against Norwich). Yes getting better strikers will increase our overall goals but not by much. No striker in the world will score every match if he only gets 1-2 half chances.

I'm not disagreeing with any of that (mind you I'm not agreeing with it all either), but it's kinda besides the original point which was that we are currently creating a certain amount of chances per game which won't be affected too much even if we had someone like Gomez leading our line. If you want a striker who scores every match you'll need to change the system and make most of the chances fall to him instead of falling to the AMs as is the case atm.

Nice! Sounds like a lot of fun. So Southampton currently have it? So united can regain their title, not that they have any chance of beating Southampton atm.

Done.