didierforever

my line-up cech azpi cahill iva bertrand mikel mvg kdb mata willian etoo/ba/torres (who cares, they are all useless) mata SHOULD start. he needs some gametime. moreover it looks like he needs that boost of confidence, a goal/assist/or even a good performance.

wow. simply wow. now mata is getting singled out. hazard lost the ball about 15 times to naismith/coleman, but he gets 15 motm votes. mata puts in a decent performance, is taken out at about the 55th minute but its his fault. by the way did any1 notice how well we were controlling the game when mata was on the pitch to how we were playing when he was not. when he was on the pitch we created chances while after his sub, it was the end. we had no play, we had no tempo.

poor. he has been the hazard of old in only one match - BAYERN. which was actually not that suprising. in that match he played against rafinha with barely any defensive help from robben on the wings whatsoever. in PL, he gets doubled up against every team. united - valencia and jones eveton - naismith and coleman. he really should pick his moments of trying to dribble his way out and concentrate more on link up play. i remember a moment late in the match when he tried to take on 4-5 everton players on the edge of the box, lost the ball and dint even run to retrieve it.

we were creating chances. a couple of them were open goals which we would have eventually put in the back of the net. everton were on the backfoot in the first half. in the 2nd half, with a lead to protect they parked the bus. they dint need to do anything else. with conceding the goal just before the half-time, we put ourselves under 1000 times more pressure than what would have been if it was 0-0. mata and schurlle would not have been taken out for lamps and oscar, because that is simply taking out any true width from the attack. i simply cant understand those subs, and have to say those were panic subs because jose wanted a goal no matter what. the goal and specially the timing of it changed the way the whole match was setup. luiz was the main culprit for the goal and will have to take his share of blame. and only a fool would say no to this. also people blaming cech need to see CHELSEA under jose more clearly. everytime cech gets the ball, he looks for a run being made or a chance for a counter. he did nothing but try to force the game and get our counter running. we want luiz to lead our line in the near future, lets see him act the position he is going to be entrusted with.

this question should apply to the 3 votes for torres, 5 for luiz and 11 for hazard. i am just happy that no one voted for cole.

where u coming from??? mou said that everton deserved to win. he cant make it any more clear.

iva HAD to take up luiz's place and lessen the space created INSIDE the box by luiz. he HAD to let go jela. jela was no longer iva's man. u cant blame him for jela playing the ball back again. this is like a chain reaction and the catalyst here is LUIZ. his mistake of trying to be the hero cost us. there was no opening. watch JT. he was covering his end. plus i would take an everton player trying to shoot from 20-25 yards out rather than some1 trying to head the ball in from 2 yards. for me, its simple. if u r a defender of your team, your PRIMARY objective is to DEFEND. when u have done that, then u think about attack and trying to nibble the ball away and stuff. luiz is supposed to be our future captain, such reckless acts and poor decision making is not the ideal way to go.

all this coming from u!!! huh... truth too hot to handle???

nope. watch the goal. luiz goes out of position, tries to intercept the ball. JT tries to lessen the space left by luiz. also iva was properly marking jelavic until luiz went out of position, but as soon as luiz moved ahead iva, moved towards JT to mark the now unmarked naismith. so jelavic became free at the far post. but most concerning point was tthat luiz made no effort on coming back to his position or covering his team-mates. and this was not the only incident in the match. even early on in the match luiz made a stupid run forward (in the first 20 minutes or so). showed no defensive discipline whatso ever thruout the match. could have been sent off easily. was sulking when cech decided to ping the ball ahead rather than pass to him and the way he held himself today was pathetic.

who are we to complain about having more shots, more possession, looking more dangerous but not winning. have we so conveniently forgotten the 2012 CL semis and finals. sanchez, fabregas missing easy chances, messi misssing penalties, robben-penalty, gomez- chance after chance and the list goes on and on and on. as i said before FINISHING is also an aspect of the game. just like passing, tackling, positioning etc. infact its the most important aspect of the game.

sometimes its easy to forget that even finishing is a part of football. infact its the biggest part of the game. u can pass the ball around and pass it wonderfully but it means SHIT if you dont score and take your chances. we have a wonderful example in ARSENAL who are so hell bent on playing awesome football that they have not won a trophy in 8 years. beautiful football means NOTHING unless u get a beautiful result. also we were good for the first half. we were good for 5-10 minutes of the 2nd half. we were pathetic for the last 40 minutes. so lets not hoot our own horns.

for people who are saying that we deserved to win Mourinho: "We had chances and chances and we didn't score. If you don't score what you create means nothing." Mourinho: "We had 21 shots...but a team who has chances like that and doesn't take them deserves to lose." said by the man himself. we literally missed a couple of open goals. unacceptable. everton did the needful. towards the end of the 2nd half, we dint even look like a threat. had no penetration. if we want to win the PL, we will have to come from behind in many a game. with the strike force that we have, we will miss chances and be trailing inspite of playing the better football. so what disappointed me today was our 2nd half performance. except for the schurlle chance and the hazard shot which were both towards the start of the half , we were actually pathetic. ps- if this is how luiz wants to play then i would honestly prefer KALAS over him. disgraceful performance.

AWFUL. PATHETIC. HOPELESS. DISGRACEFUL PERFORMANCE.

what the fuck was luiz on today??? the most pathetic performance i have ever seen.

so what the news on the hazard and oscar front?

pretty quiet for a gameday here. anyways, hope to see mata magic...

brilliant, just brilliant.

what a joke... seriouslt LOLed on this one. where he belongs!!! he belongs in the elite group of clubs and he ll show exactly what he has got.

21 year old GK, already would make the top 10-15 TOP gks in the world list. now lets see the GKs we have at the moment 31 year old World Class keeper (the best at the moment) 40 year old on a one year contract 37 year old on a one year contract for the reason which is beyond the understanding of any1. simply does not make any sense at all to sell a prospect of thibaut's quality when we dont have a long term replacement, does it?

courtois WILL NOT BE SOLD. that is a definite.

and only u are thinking that we will sel courtois, have not heard any1 here even speak of it. u come here, get between a very civilsed argument and then act as a victim saying wish u had not logged in, simply does not make sense. next time dont reply if u dont wanna argue.

makes sense. also i think this is the most PROBABLE solution for the next season. for the next season, the scenarios are (in decreasing order of probability) 1. cech no.1, thibaut on loan 2. cech no.1, thibaut no.2 3. thibaut no.1 , cech sold. but on a personal level,i would want the no.2 to happen.

did i say that ever? what do you read? your own version of any1's post. read all my posts again. read the one with what alex wrote about cech being better than courtois and my reply to it. courtois might be ready to be the no.1 GK but we already have THE WORLD'S BEST GK PLAYING FOR US. u dont discard that. if cech goes next season, he would go to a direct competitor like barca or in the worst case united/arsenal. plus we would be playing with a yet untested GK at the highest of the highest levels. i have already given my answer to "when do we go to courtois" and an ideal scenario of how to break courtois into the team and i doubt i can be any clear about it. infact anyone who thinks that courtois is going to be our no.1 GK next season is going to be in for a big suprise.

de gea had 84 appearances for ATM in 2 seasons before coming to manchester united. atm is the same team courtois is playing for at the moment and the hype surrounding each seems to be the same. in 2011-12 his flipping flopping the ball cost united a number of points. and in the end united lost the league of GOAL DIFFERENCE. the most ideal thing for the club is to do what is right for the club not one player. only the future can not be taken into consideration but the present matters too. next year CHELSEA will not only be competing for the PL but without a doubt we will be the heads on favourite to win the thing, so every point does matter and undue risk should be and without a doubt will be avoided.

that is the main point. look at de gea. he was supposed to be a beast when united bought him but his first season or rather the first half of the season was laughable. courtouis is 21 right now. i dont see any reason why playing 20 games in a season as a no.2 GK for chelsea will a step backward in his development. infact he will be breaking into the team steadily, will have more time to adjust, less pressure to deal with. there is no need to be hasty with the courtouis issue. time IS on his side. but as i said before, the decision will be his. but i am thinking what would be the most ideal thing for the club.