didierforever

5 year contract. also our team in this year's youth CL izzy feruz traore rlc chalobah baker ? ake christensen ? killip. NICE... :blue scalf: :blue scalf: :blue scalf: :blue scalf:

i know. even our youth players beat barca with 10 men in their own backyard. plus i think its time we kept a few young players at our own academy too, so that they can qualify as academy-trained. right now we have only JT who satifies that criteria.

i dint know there was a youth CL which was starting from this year. dont want him to go on loan now. should stay here and lead us to CL glory.

yup. qpr hat-trick too, but the charm of performing well against arsenal in something different. he was such a pain in vermalean (who could have been sent off so easily) and laurent's butt.

precisely my point. even 83 points dint win them PL because there was a big difference in class of top 4(3) and the rest of the league. we cant expect the same thing right now. i am not denying that we were GREAT that season. i mean conceding 15 goals in 38 matches is so mean task. alex's original point was that even with a striker force of DD (first year), gudjonsen and kezman in 2004-05, we were able to win the league so comfortably but what we lacked in our striker force was OVERLY compensated by our defence which right now, seems far from reality.

arsenal away last season.

read my reply to alex's next post.

josh is not getting more than a 100 minutes (if that), the whole season. we have rambo, essien, mikel, lamps and mvg for 2 spots. simply cant see how and where he ll play. so all he ll be doing is playing for under 21s which is definitely worse than championship.

thats fine... but 7-0??? now thats a bad joke.

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our board's desicion with the youth in this windown has been a little shocking. no loan moves for chalobah and especially JOSH MCEACHRAN. and shipping off romelu on loan while keeping BA here.

no no... u got me wrong. arsenal's squad in 04-05 was the almost same as their squad in 03-04. when i said "they were pathetic" (a little exaggeration is okay when it is considering arsenal, ), i meant football-wise not squad-wise,escpacially since this was their follow -up season to the invinsibles. my point was in 04-05, our biggest competition were arsenal, who dint have a very good season or the kind of season every1 was expecting them to have, cant expect the same from city. but the overall strength of the title "pretenders" have increased in pool, tot, united, and arsenal right now. the competition is way more harder than it was back then. there was an actual gap in level after the top4 teams, which is definitely not the case right now (and hence why it was such a big big big deal when everton got the 4th spot). ps - pool were never title challengers back then.

no loan??? why?

the point is how good were the other teams. arsenal were pathetic after their invinsible season, right now they have got ozil in their ranks. united were on decline, same as now. pool were well pool themselves, same as now. but that was pretty much it. but right now, city and tottenham have really good squads. city are playing poorly but if they find the right rythm, they would destroy most of the team and for me they are the favourites. tottenham have got a wonderful squad but they will take some time to gel. i think by december they will gather some momentum and find their feet, not PL but still a formidable force. so considering the quality of teams in 04-05 and now, i feel its not apt to compare.

u think this is jose? how much do u wanna bet that lukaku's loan would cost more than ba's 3mil loan price. i personally can bet everything i have that this will be the case. this deal has the stink of board all over it.

atleast its everton and not wba... but he ll have to fight for a place against jelavic, anchiebe and kone. hope he shows his class... good luck lad...

has he been loaned??? whats the official news??

what about lukaku???

u actually think this is mou's doing? i can bet everythin i have that this is the board's decision. 3mil for BA loan was what we were asking, everton had offered 4mil for lukaku and we let him go for that.

and how does he prove he is good enough to be a chelsea striker when inspite of scoring 17 goals, inspite of being our best striker in pre-season by a mile, he cant get a start. i dont give a shit what back 4 united played. united played a dead rubber against us too, but we barely won the match. we barely scrapped thru. why could not our striker score a hat-trick in a match that meant nothing to united but was one of our most important matches in the season. also, i seriously dont think it has anything to do with jose. we wanted 3mil for ba loan, would probably have been getting more than that for lukaku (everton offered 4, i think) and we let him go.

and how does that help him. he got 17 goals in PL last season. how many did torres and ba get for chelsea. compare it with their playing time. the same thing will happen this year. even if he wins the golden fucking boot, people are still going to say, "HE IS JUST 21, VERY RAW, NOT GOOD ENOUGH TO LEAD OUR LINE, INEXPERIENCE, it was just wba" lukaku would be exactly where he was at the start of this season, no matter how much he plays, or how good he plays for them. plus tell me the lad's mentality right now. he was our best strikr in PRE-season. in the 2 sub appearance he made, he made more impact than both our strikers combine. 1 penalty miss later, he is shipped out on loan. the way he cried after the penalty, u could see what chelsea meant to him... all he had needed was 1 JUST 1 START to prove his worth, but he dint even get that. very poor decision.

everton??? i thought it was wba???

seriously??? he has not done... 17 goals in PL itself. leading the line for more than half the season and getting a hat-trick against man-united. u basically just proved my point.

it still does not answer my question - HOW DOES HIS LOAN TO WBA HELP HIS CHELSEA CAREER.

please read the rest of my post to rather than just the parts u like.