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Seems we want 2 different things. I simply don't want the big 3 to win the CL. But I also think that each of my proposed fixtures (barca-bayern, atm-Rm, porto-monaco, juve-psg), is a very well balanced 50-50 ties. On the other hand watching barca/bayern play juve/psg takes the fun out of it cos I am 90% sure who goes thru that tie.

but that basically means that barca, bayern and RM are in the semis once again. almost redundant. let them face each other and knock each other out.

THIS!!!!

true. but considering how much rest of our midfielders dwell on the ball, i dont feel he would be as effective. hazard, cesc, matic, none are good at one touch passing or fast passes.

Hopefully these our the fixtures Barcelona v Bayern Munich Atletico Madrid v Real Madrid PSG v Juventus Monaco v Porto

43 mil is a good buy for pogba!!! would take him in a heart beat.

getting beaten and getting owned are 2 very different things.

owned!!! that was embarassing. pl champions vs runners up in la liga. EMBARASSING...

it was a brilliant PEN and an out of the world stop by leno

amen, anything to be rid of oscar.

jose chose oscar over kdb - not just a mistake but a SAF-pogbaish HOWLER jose chooses oscar to play - mistake the stats he has acquired mean nothing cos his performances have been worse than average. we have 3 losses in the whole season, i can take mikel and any player in the team and point to any stat and we can easily assume it will be great. oscar plays big matches - only when we dont have a proper sub i asked u what oscar did against pool in the 1-0 win to count it as in his favor - you threw 5 useless stats at me thinking those proved that oscar played wonderfully when in truth he was probably one of our worst player on the pitch. hahahaha.. sure dude.. sure.. delusions of grandeur

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was on the mobile. saw your post after i had edited it. sorry for going OTT

here lets look at just some of the reactions that the fans gave to his 83% possession, 5 tackles and yada yada yada stats. not surprosing though. a lot of mikel fans fell to quoting stats too. did not expect much different from someone who cant even accept when a player is WANK!!! IGNORANCE INDEED!!! is not it surprising that so many of them thought he was poor. but since chelsealegend says nay, that means oscar was awesome beyong recognition. cold hard facts indeed. think this is mikel all over again. people will continue to try and justify this turds inclusion thru stats and the fact that we win cos of others in the team, and then before we know, its 8 years of mediocrity. (now dont get me wrong, i like mikel - he can do some specific job for us unlike oscar). i did track back on my big game statement. he does not play a game, when we have a full squad. proven wrong - hahahahahahahahahahahaha .. oh did u mean u proved me wrong by showing a bunch of useless stats. well..

So where is spike spiegel now??Expansive football is helped by osvar? U nincompoop how the fuck does oscar help us. Cant u get your bloody oscar goggles off. Its like talking to a lunatic. An arrogant lunatic. Wjy can't u get it thru your thick skull that oscar does not do anything for us. Simply does not work for us, u imbecile. What has he done for us against burnly, against soton and against the majority of the teams that we have plaued and even won.his contribution has been 0. What did he do against pool when we won 1-0. Nothing. Redundant. Do u get that? Do u get that basic argument of oscar's use in the team. And don't give me that bloody drivel about oscar been there for balamce. Load of CRAP!!!! Again, getting jose into the argument. Still yet to get a comprehensive argumemt of what osvar does and why he should be continued to be given a chance after chance. But but but.. how dare we question the opinion of chelsealegend the great. How dare we low lives go against the opinion of the great ones. Do u understand how a fucking forum works, u fucking areogant prick. I give my opinion even if its not the one being followed by our manager. If u don't like it then take a hike, instaed of kepping on chatrering the same useless thing again and again about our manager.

fair enough, saying oscar does not start big games was wrong but saying oscar wont be anywhere near the starting 11 if we had a fit squad is perfectly right. also, seriously using the izzy brown thing here? please do enlighten me through your abundance knowledge about which one of these should have started in place of oscar Cech06 Aké11 Drogba24 Cahill31 Christensen36 Loftus-Cheek37 Browncos this was our bench against city,again with the JOSE argument. LOLOLOL.. come back when you got something better dude. cos according to you, everything that jose does is non-questionable then whats the point of the forum. but like i said before, hardly surprising that you have to childish retorts like "jose is starting him so he knows more than all of us combined" rather than come up with an actual argument about what he actually brings to the team. cos as i have seen (along with majority of the fans) in the last 3 years about oscar is that, that he is an average player who simply does not deserve to be anywhere near the starter of a team of chelsea's calibre. ps - please put in a better argument than "jose knows it all". thats like saying luiz was the best defender last season despite being chelsea's 3rd choice CB, getting his ass kicked with brazil and an average performance with me, just cos he was in FIFpro team of the year.

City away 1-1 draw (fair enough) Utd Oscar plays 1-1 (rambo injured) Arsenal Oscar plays 2-0 (rambo injured) Liverpool Oscar plays 2-1 (fair enough) Tottenham Oscar plays 3-0 (rambo injured) Tottenham Oscar off at 45 3-5 (loled in the match) Liverpool COC 1-1 (check your stats again mate, he dint start) Liverpool COC Oscar plays 1-0 (fair enough) City Oscar plays 1-1 (the only other option would have been to play izzy brown) Tottenham COC 2-0 (3 minutes on the pitch- atleast fullproof your stats) PSG 1-1 (are u bloody kidding me, he DID NOT START) PSG Oscar plays 1-1 (TAKEN OUT AT 45 MINS) so out of the 12 matches you have given, oscar did not start in 3 of them which leaves us with 9. out of the rest 9, he was kicked out at the 45th minute in 2 games and out of the 7 left, we literally had no other option except for a totally out of form schurrle or a useless salah as the only options in 4 of them. so please get your stats right before blubbering nonsensical things. as for jose, i know he is no mug. he is the best manager in the world. but so was SAF when he let go off pogba for free just to keep cleverly and andeson. even the best managers make howlers and mistakes. jose is making one right now and here by trusting this piece of shit and playing him. also, if your argument is that since jose is doing, it must be fine, then i can see you must be running out excuses to defend oscar. well, not surpsring. so its fickle of me to expect GC and iva to be dropped so that we can see a line up of azpi-zouma-JT-luis. 2 fast fullbacks, with a quick CB with whom we can play a high line without much worry. look at how scared we were of long and mane running behind us that there was acres of space between matic and the defence when ever soton got the ball. which led to them countering very easily. not rocket science bro. simple FOTBAL 101. like u said, they HAD been brilliant but currently need to be dropped especially since we have more than good replacements. just like oscar's case. why dont you come off your moral high horse and simply accept things like you see. when i said about GC and IVA, i dint ask for them to be sold, but just like oscar, currently they are mistakes in the team. not near as massive, but mistakes without a doubt and something that should be solved quickly by jose. just cos we are top of the table, does not mean everything is hucky-dory. so like i said,, get off your high. self righteous, pompus high horse with a know it all attitude, and get realistic for a change. PS - u brought mata and chelsea's league position under avb and rdm as an argument. and i am the one grasping at air!!! also, who are you threatening with the ignore list. you wanna do it and go ahead and do it. no need to flatter yourself that anyone here cares about it.

BOTH. balance. but if need to be choose one... good result. any time of any day of any week of any year. simple as that.

22 points out of 30 available. that should be our aim. or rather, our aim should be simple - WIN YOUR NEXT MATCH AGAINST HULL!!!!

stop this agenda.

had a wonderful game last night. which was surprising since he was playing on the RW and against ROSE who is pacy as hell. but thats what class players do.

too costly. i remember soton putting a 30-40mil price tag on him.

when i thought your argument was that we should be scoring 2+ goals easily with the abundant attacking talent at our disposal ( ), i thought it was an argument. i even said that jose was at fault for overly trusting in oscar, buying physical wingers instead of technical ones and also over relying on hazard. my point was simply that our attack simply is not as good as you thought it is. and i tried to drive home the point. but i refuse to argue with anyone who starts with the usual drivel about us not dominating and putting performances before the results. the same people who say this, were the biggest moaners last season when we went trophyless and will be the biggest moaners when we play good "beautiful" football and not win a thing. just the way of the world and i simply refuse to be pulled into it. but that should not stop you from continuing the propaganda. lastly, tell me a team which does not have to grind out results. there was a time when barca were in such a poor form that they were grinding out results against the likes of elche and levante. RM right now dont seem capable of grinding out a result and look at them. from a 6-7 point lead, they are 1 point behind barca. i am sure even u know that for a fact that grinding out results as big a factor of champions and winners as is good football. so sorry if i seem reluctant on not wanting to argue on something which is pretty much a fact for me.

soton had put a 30-40mil tag on him. would rather we spend an extra 20 on pogba and get a WC player out of it.

it seems your idioticness in supporting oscar seems to have made u fail to read and comprehend a simple thing that i said, which is, unlike popular opinion like yours and other oscar fans, he is NOT our only or even the best option as a no.10. remember when jose had said to jamie redknapp that you cant compare the stats of a player who plays with all freedom (mata) compared to a player who is forced to cover for defender on the wing (willian), so this is the same case. but it still does not change the fact that willian is better than oscar in a no.10 role. and like about KDB, jose has got it all wrong with oscar. he might be kept in the team for his workrate but what workrate are you talking about? what matches do u watch to justify oscar's supposed workrate. please take off your stupid oscar googles off and give your oscar love a rest. there is no workrate here rather nothing that we cant get with willian or rambo. get stuck all over the pitch... hahahahahhahaha.. making a couple of slide tackles does not mean that he is good defensively. oscar is poor and that is shown by the fact that he is kicked out of the team whenever we have to play a big match. and that gives us far more balance than with him in the team. willian might not commit to tackles, but his covering for iva is fabulous. this myth about oscar getting stuck all over the pitch is another delusion of granduer from his loved ones. atleast i can accept my bias compared to people like you who dont. we won the CL with mata, something you have forgotten very conveniently. yes, its a TEAM effort so does that mean GC is awesome? that he does not need to be replaced? that iva has been brilliant defensively all season long? i think you need to get the concept of improvement in your oscar loving head. oscar's season is the best he can possibly have. there is nothing more he can give to us. and it is not just this season but the previous 2too that can prove it so. his general play have regressed. his fans now have to come with even more pathetic excuses than "he is tired". so please give it a rest. oscar has no future here and he simply cant worthy enough of a no.10 for this team. as for fifa, give it a rest mate. the only reason you oscar fans seem to like him is cos he has an awesome rating or something, cos quite honestly, no chelsea fan would be willing to put up with his half arsed performances. i mean RAMBO is probably the least technical players, but god knows he tries. but this is the 3rd time in as many season that oscar has not only dropped in form but also in effort. his antics last year to preserve himself for the world cup over our CL and PL campaigns was probably the most selfish and the lowest thing i have ever seen. here, we go again. no one has a concept of how jose wants to play except for the oscar lovers who know it all. its actually like mikel under ancelotti all over again. no one except for mikel lovers knew exactly what was required and boy!! were we glad on how it all turned out. next comes the question of oscar's no.10 position in chelsea's expansive football? yet his best aspect is that he is a workhorse.. now i am confused. fine dude. we dont need varane. we are winning the PL so GC for captaincy. iva as a RB and azpi as a LB for another season. I mean we are winning the PL, are not we. so everything happening right now and every player playing is flawless and perfect. 100% perfect. rather than asking me to stop bitching and moaning about a player who does not seem to give a fuck, why dont you atleast be honest to yourself. like i said, take off your oscar glasses and watch a chelsea match without the prejudice of his supposed work rate and awesome defensive prowess to see that he is doing NOTHING of it. as for your advice, please keep it to yourself. not required, needed or asked. as for isco, i admit i was wrong comparing oscar and isco. 2 players who are in different planes and levels and even the comparision is a slap on his face.