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Romans disciples reacted to OhForAGreavsie in Roman Abramovich Thread
It's good take and I hope that you're right.
I may be dumb and criminally under informed but I don't see why Roman is such a pariah other than that people don't like Chelsea and he's a Russian they've actually heard of. Yes he was allowed to buy state assets at a price which amounted to theft but the guilty one for me is the one who sold the assets. If it can be shown that Roman has been delivering kick-backs, monetary or otherwise, in return for benefitting from the giveaway then he would be corrupt and I would turn against him. I've heard such kick-backs alleged however I've never seen the claims substantiated.
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Romans disciples reacted to Pizy in Roman Abramovich Thread
Holding off opinions until we hear form this new consortium. The first thing they need to do after taking over is assure supporters that they intend to keep the team competitive at the very highest level. Which means committing to spending money on top class players.
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Romans disciples reacted to Pizy in Roman Abramovich Thread
Seriously, though, Roman is being run out of town for his mere connection to Putin. He is not involved in any government or military capacity. He hasn’t supported or expressed support for this war.
So why aren’t the English press and government aggressively going after the other ultra shady owners?
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Romans disciples reacted to Vesper in Roman Abramovich Thread
Germany seizes Oligarchs $600 million mega-yacht
https://www.forbes.com/sites/giacomotognini/2022/03/02/germans-seize-russian-billionaire-alisher-usmanovs-mega-yacht/
Russian billionaire Alisher Usmanov was sanctioned by the European Union on Monday. Two days later, Forbes has learned from three sources in the yacht industry that one of his prized possessions—the 512-foot yacht Dilbar, valued at nearly $600 million—has been seized by German authorities in the northern city of Hamburg.
Usmanov purchased Dilbar in 2016 for a reported cost of $600 million from German shipbuilder Lürssen, which custom-built it for him over 52 months. The firm calls it "one of the most complex and challenging yachts ever built, in terms of both dimensions and technology." At 15,917 tons, it's the world's largest motor yacht by gross tonnage, and is typically manned by a crew of 96 people. Dilbar boasts the largest swimming pool ever installed on a yacht as well as two helicopter pads, a sauna, a beauty salon, and a gym. Its plush interiors have more than 1,000 sofa cushions and it can host up to 24 people in 12 suites.
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Romans disciples reacted to Vesper in Roman Abramovich Thread
From shock therapy to Putin’s war
Putin is alone responsible for the war in Ukraine but prominent westerners played a key role in Russia’s post-Soviet trajectory.
https://socialeurope.eu/from-shock-therapy-to-putins-war
As Russian tanks battle through Ukraine on the orders of an authoritarian president, it is worth noting that Ukrainians are not the only ones who crave democracy. Russians, too, have taken to the streets—at great personal risk—to protest against Vladimir Putin’s outrageous act of aggression. But they are fighting an uphill battle in a country which has never been given a chance to become democratic.
When such an opportunity was available, it was subverted not by Putin and his kleptocratic milieu but by the west. Following the collapse of the Soviet Union 30 years ago, American economic advisers convinced Russia’s leaders to focus on economic reforms and put democracy on the back burner—where Putin could easily extinguish it when the time came.
This is no trivial historical contingency. Had Russia become a democracy, there would have been no need to talk about the North Atlantic Treaty Organization and its eastward expansion, no invasion of Ukraine and no debates about whether the west owed Russia’s civilisation greater respect. (As a German, I recoil at that last proposition, which has clear echoes of Adolf Hitler and his self-proclaimed leadership over a ‘civilization’.)
Extraordinary powers
Let us recount the sequence of events. In November 1991, the Russian Supreme Soviet (parliament) gave the then Russian president, Boris Yeltsin, extraordinary powers and a 13-month mandate to launch reforms. Then, in December 1991, the Soviet Union was officially dissolved by the Belovezh accords, which created the Commonwealth of Independent States. Russia, Belarus and Ukraine declared respect for one another’s independence.
Surrounded by a small group of Russian reformers and western advisers, Yeltsin used this unique historical moment to launch an unprecedented programme of economic ‘shock therapy’. Prices were liberalised, borders were opened and rapid privatisation began—all by presidential decree.
Nobody in Yeltsin’s circle bothered to ask whether this was what Russia’s citizens wanted. And nobody paused to consider that Russians might first want a chance to develop a sound constitutional foundation for their country, or to express through an election their preference for who should govern them.
The reformers and their western advisers simply decided—and then insisted—that market reforms should precede constitutional reforms. Democratic niceties would delay or even undermine economic policy-making. Only by moving fast—cutting the dog’s tail with one blow of the axe—would Russia be put on a path to economic prosperity and the Communists be kept out of power for good. With radical market reforms, the Russian people would see tangible returns and become enamoured of democracy automatically.
Unmitigated disaster
It was not to be. The Yeltsin presidency turned out to be an unmitigated disaster—economically, socially, legally and politically. Overhauling a Soviet-style centrally-planned economy in the space of just 13 months proved to be impossible. Price and trade liberalisation on their own did not create markets. That would have required legal institutions but there was no time to establish them.
Yes, extreme shortages disappeared and street markets sprang up everywhere. But that is a far cry from nurturing the kind of markets needed to facilitate the allocation of resources on which companies and households rely.
Moreover, the shock therapy unleashed such severe and sudden social and economic disruptions that it turned the public against the reforms and the reformers. The Supreme Soviet refused to extend Yeltsin’s extraordinary powers and what happened next would set the stage for the rise of authoritarian presidentialism in Russia.
Yeltsin and his allies refused to give up. They declared the existing Russian constitution of 1977 illegitimate and Yeltsin proceeded to assume power unilaterally, while calling for a referendum to legitimise the move. But the constitutional court and the parliament refused to budge and a deep political crisis ensued. In the end, the standoff was resolved by tanks, which Yeltsin called in to dissolve the Russian parliament in October 1993, leaving 147 people dead.
To be sure, many members of parliament were opponents of Yeltsin and his team and perhaps wanted to turn back the clock. But it was Yeltsin who set a dangerous new precedent for how disputes over the country’s future would be resolved. Tanks, not votes, would decide. And Yeltsin and his team didn’t stop there. They also rammed through a constitution which enshrined a powerful president with strong decree and veto powers, and with no serious checks and balances.
Revealing conversation
I still recall a revealing conversation that I, a student of Russia’s reforms at the time, had with Dmitry Vasiliev, a top member of Yeltsin’s privatisation team. When I pointed out the shortcomings of the draft constitution, he said they would simply fix it if the wrong person ascended to power. They never did, of course—nor could they have. Vasiliev’s statement fully encapsulated how the economic reformers thought about constitutional democracy.
In December 1993, the new constitution was adopted through a referendum, which was held jointly with elections to the new parliament. Yeltsin’s candidates suffered a stunning defeat, but with the president’s new constitutional powers secured the economic reforms continued. Yeltsin was ‘re-elected’ in 1996 through a manipulated process which had been planned in Davos and orchestrated by the newly-minted Russian oligarchs. Three years later, Yeltsin made Putin prime minister and anointed him as his successor.
Democratising Russia may always have been a long shot, given the country’s history of centralised power. But it would have been worth a try. The ill-advised prioritisation of economic goals over democratic processes holds lessons well beyond Russia. By choosing capitalism over democracy as the foundation for the post-cold-war world, the west jeopardised stability, prosperity and, as we now see again in Ukraine, peace and democracy—and not only in eastern Europe.
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Romans disciples reacted to Jase in Roman Abramovich Thread
Fuck...now you gotta wonder what will happen to Tuchel.
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Romans disciples reacted to Milan in Luton Town 2-3 Chelsea
Time for Mount to shine. This opponent might suit him.
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Romans disciples reacted to Pizy in Roman Abramovich Thread
I’m just afraid of us going the way of Man United. An ownership group who don’t give a single shit about the team on the pitch but rather only the “product” off it. Someone or some consortium who is constantly taking dividends out of the club and lining their pockets rather than getting the manager what he needs.
I pray that Roman is smart enough not to sell to someone like that. Because if he does we’re going to see City win the league nearly uncontested for as long as Pep is there. Liverpool’s attacker will get old soon and they’ll slip away gradually while City’s owners with infinite money will continue to spend their way to titles.
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Romans disciples got a reaction from robsblubot in Roman Abramovich Thread
We becoming a charity status trust shows the world that our owner is kind , sensitive and benevolent. He gives for no return.
I have witnessed his charitable work , in Siberia he funded support for many mining families that were desolate through economic sanctions by the west over Crimean peace policing. , in Israel he has funded settlements , he provides cash for awareness of the dreadful Holocaust that eventually Stalin liberated.
What other club would be so honourable ? Levy/Lewis expand property portfolio at the expense of any football success and the evil Glazers suck United dry.
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Romans disciples got a reaction from DDA in Roman Abramovich Thread
a chairman of excellence . Those who questions his leadership should hang their heads in shame.
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Romans disciples got a reaction from Vesper in Europa League Final 2019 - Chelsea 4-1 Arsenal
Chelsea showing again they are the greatest British team this decade.
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Romans disciples got a reaction from kellzfresh in Europa League Final 2019 - Chelsea 4-1 Arsenal
Chelsea showing again they are the greatest British team this decade.
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Romans disciples got a reaction from Fulham Broadway in Europa League Final 2019 - Chelsea 4-1 Arsenal
Chelsea showing again they are the greatest British team this decade.
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Romans disciples got a reaction from Muzchap in Europa League Final 2019 - Chelsea 4-1 Arsenal
Chelsea showing again they are the greatest British team this decade.
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Romans disciples got a reaction from Vesper in The Sarri Thread
correct , the British media adore the mediocrity that is Spurs . Poch is a failure , his buys have been diabolical, Sissoko, Aurier, Liorente, Jensen etc. Much of your media wear the cockeral badge that report in a bias, over inflated impression of this whore club. 3 wins in 14 is relegation material.
Sarri in comparison has achieved top 3 and will deliver a Euro final . l am proud as our club that has been destabilized by the British establishment has risen above their petty prejudices and will always prevail.
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Romans disciples got a reaction from OneMoSalah in Everton 2-0 Chelsea
we have to look deeper at why we are not as prolific as other seasons . There is a conspiracy to undermine our strategy by the West. What other team has a righteous, democratic, charitable , owner banned from entering a Brexit toxic , class ridden , incompetent privileged democracy, knife crime central mess of a place , when he would only do good , such as grand investment.
This has a bearing on our form , it's a cloud of uncertainty. We must rise together and show support for Mother Russia , its peaceful Syrian adventures , liberation of Crimea , and of course Roman whos unlawful treatment is criminal.
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Romans disciples reacted to Muzchap in Everton 2-0 Chelsea
The agenda against Roman has been shit though. Imagine if this was the City owners, there would be outrage and cries of racism. But, as he's white - nothing is said...
I think Roman turning up to the dressing room before and after the match probably did help focus minds and attitudes and that's gone for the time being.
Small things can make a big difference and maybe this is one of them. The players don't have the fear anymore...
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Romans disciples got a reaction from Muzchap in Everton 2-0 Chelsea
we have to look deeper at why we are not as prolific as other seasons . There is a conspiracy to undermine our strategy by the West. What other team has a righteous, democratic, charitable , owner banned from entering a Brexit toxic , class ridden , incompetent privileged democracy, knife crime central mess of a place , when he would only do good , such as grand investment.
This has a bearing on our form , it's a cloud of uncertainty. We must rise together and show support for Mother Russia , its peaceful Syrian adventures , liberation of Crimea , and of course Roman whos unlawful treatment is criminal.
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Romans disciples got a reaction from Bobo in Everton 2-0 Chelsea
some of us see things deeper , another disappointing result is not going to be just explained by a gut reaction tatical change . While we are unfairly attacked by UEFA (2 transfer ban ) and the media this destroys cohesion.
As an ex Soviet satellite l see you have bitterness , very unbalanced , to our owners homeland .
NATO has turned you.
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Romans disciples got a reaction from manpe in Everton 2-0 Chelsea
some of us see things deeper , another disappointing result is not going to be just explained by a gut reaction tatical change . While we are unfairly attacked by UEFA (2 transfer ban ) and the media this destroys cohesion.
As an ex Soviet satellite l see you have bitterness , very unbalanced , to our owners homeland .
NATO has turned you.
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Romans disciples got a reaction from Unionjack in Chelsea banned for TWO transfer windows
scandalous, a club like ours that has a ethical approach, outstanding charitable owner ( supports many Russian and Israeli foundations) and is a beacon of fair play.
The Spanish clubs control UEFA and till we destroy their puppet control there will be no justice.
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Romans disciples got a reaction from DDA in Chelsea banned for TWO transfer windows
scandalous, a club like ours that has a ethical approach, outstanding charitable owner ( supports many Russian and Israeli foundations) and is a beacon of fair play.
The Spanish clubs control UEFA and till we destroy their puppet control there will be no justice.