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Spike

3. Marcos Alonso

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2 minutes ago, Vesper said:

LOL at low level teams

Atletico Madrid

Juventus

Manchester City

Valencia ( in  Champions League, finished only 3 points behind Real Madrid.

Potential???? LOLOL They are starters on multiple CL finalists, crazy amount of league titles, TWO WC winners, all time English season points, margin goal scoring team, etc

You are so far out of your depth, and your attempts to insult me make you look foolish.

You still have not once addressed the injury issue

conjure names?

You really do not know football at all apparently, lol

I do valuation calculations on hundreds of millions, even billions of pounds/euros/quid of M & A deals for a living

figuring out footie players at world class level, with very few numerically to plug into calculations is child's play compared to that

also, if you bothered to bloody read, I said to sell him ONLY if he is found out to be perma damaged

Juve look at him as a squad player, they have and had the 2nd best, or 3rd best LB in the world in Alex Sandro, a player we went as high as 75m on and were turned down, we failed to grab him 3 straight windows.much to the damage of those windows, and our team overall

Only reason Roma sold Emerson when they did is because they rolled the dice that he was probably damaged goods, and he was the safest bet to help avoid FFP sanctions

I have seen nothing to dispel this

quit whilst you are behind

so because we aint on same page regarding those names u listed makes me look foolish...thats quite great...if u check the beginning of my conversation I said while those names are great and possess potential quality doesnt mean we should go there and spend out and spend fucking insane amount on them when our team is crying out for clinical striker and quality winger...and if and when Emerson is given run of games and he fails woefully then we can go out there and spend on left full back...

Once again all you did is to display  how vast your knowledge of football players is...I guess the club should employ you as the recruitment manager even calling Emerson a damaged good...Lol...I am done with this discussion cos you cant keep a healthy and logical discussion..

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1 minute ago, eemanyooel said:

so because we aint on same page regarding those names u listed makes me look foolish...thats quite great...if u check the beginning of my conversation I said while those names are great and possess potential quality doesnt mean we should go there and spend out and spend fucking insane amount on them when our team is crying out for clinical striker and quality winger...and if and when Emerson is given run of games and he fails woefully then we can go out there and spend on left full back...

Once again all you did is to display  how vast your knowledge of football players is...I guess the club should employ you as the recruitment manager even calling Emerson a damaged good...Lol...I am done with this discussion cos you cant keep a healthy and logical discussion..

i said IF, never said he was for sure, but something surely is holding him back, and he has never shown his pre injury Roma form since we bought him

Sarri must have some legitreason for his judgement of not playing him much, Sarri is not a fool, he knows he is running Alonso into the ground

I want to know what is really up, WHY he is doing this

I want Emerson to start, IF he is healthy

I have stated this dozens of times

It certainly would NOT be a lack of talent only as to why he is being ghosted, as a healthy Emerson is, IMHO a better LB (especially for Sarriball) than Marcos is

I rated him 8th best under 29yo LB (soon under 30yo,when Alba hits that age in a few months) in the world, IF healthy, that's HARDLY devaluing him or slagging him out

 

I extensively have documented for months the FOUR key positions we are in trouble with

RW

CF

LB

CB (IF we have to rely upon Luiz to be one of the 2 mainstays and IF Sarri continues to refuse to play AC and Ampadu,which leaves washed up Cahill as the 3rd option,or even a starter IF ,as he IS now, Rudiger is injured)

 

to that you can potentially add RB (if Azpi basically fails to produce any sort of acceptable level of offensive thrust to aid an already weak (and preyed upon) right side

and,future-forward thinking you MIGHT be able to add 2 of the 3 MF slots, IF we lose Kovacic back to RM, and if Kante simply cannot adapt to his new role in Sarriball (I have now twice posted a great article on this, here it is  again   https://theprideoflondon.com/2018/09/24/chelsea-sarrismo-ngolo-kante-midfield/  ) he cannot go back to his old pure DMF destroyer role,as it tears apart and deconstructs the entire system) and IF Barkley tailspins and/or gets injured (which is somewhat probable given his past track record in terms of health)

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5 minutes ago, Vesper said:

i said IF, never said he was for sure, but something surely is holding him back, and he has never shown his pre injury Roma form since we bought him

Sarri must have some legitreason for his judgement of not playing him much, Sarri is not a fool, he knows he is running Alonso into the ground

I want to know what is really up, WHY he is doing this

I want Emerson to start, IF he is healthy

I have stated this dozens of times

It certainly would NOT be a lack of talent only as to why he is being ghosted, as a healthy Emerson is, IMHO a better LB (especially for Sarriball) than Marcos is

I rated him 8th best under 29yo LB (soon under 30yo,when Alba hits that age in a few months) in the world, IF healthy, that's HARDLY devaluing him or slagging him out

 

I extensively have documented for months the FOUR key positions we are in trouble with

RW

CF

LB

CB (IF we have to rely upon Luiz to be one of the 2 mainstays and IF Sarri continues to refuse to play AC and Ampadu,which leaves washed up Cahill as the 3rd option,or even a starter IF ,as he IS now, Rudiger is injured)

 

to that you can potentially add RB (if Azpi basically fails to produce any sort of acceptable level of offensive thrust to aid an already weak (and preyed upon) right side

and,future-forward thinking you MIGHT be able to add 2 of the 3 MF slots, IF we lose Kovacic back to RM, and if Kante simply cannot adapt to his new role in Sarriball (I have now twice posted a great article on this, here it is  again   https://theprideoflondon.com/2018/09/24/chelsea-sarrismo-ngolo-kante-midfield/  ) he cannot go back to his old pure DMF destroyer role,as it tears apart and deconstructs the entire system) and IF Barkley tailspins and/or gets injured (which is somewhat probable given his past track record in terms of health)

alright lets agree...just feel like atleast Sarri should give ability to showcase the quality he brings to the team cos alonso is not the way forward and if he fails then fair play...

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13 minutes ago, eemanyooel said:

alright lets agree...just feel like atleast Sarri should give ability to showcase the quality he brings to the team cos alonso is not the way forward and if he fails then fair play...

I agree with this, and I do feel (I think you will also agree) we are owed an explanation of what is going on. It's baffling and worrisome. Need one in regards to AC, Ampadu,  and CHO as well. If he refuses to play them, we run huge risk of losing AC and CHO (who is refusing to renew contract so far).

AC can walk into all but 11 teams in world football and be pretty much a fulltime starter, and even on most of those 11 get more playing time than he is now.

If Sarri starts Cahill over Amps or AC tomorrow (I am pretty sure Luiz will start, with Rudiger out injured), I am going to go mental.

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He was fantastic defensively yesterday. He was targeted all game by Liverpool and largely dealt with it. Unlucky not to score the winner right at the end, I was ready to go nuts...

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Really? I thought he was average they had a number of attacks go down our left and he was badly exposed by Salah for one of their best chances of the game. 

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Reverted back to his old ways but the harmlessness of our attack  didn;'t help him at all. When the opposition isnt scared of 70% of your attacking trio, it puts your defense under massive pressure.

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Terrible game by him...Made poor passes...Dribbling to no where...Constantly caught up field..

Pissed me off so much with that dropping to ground and still not getting up..If the ref continues the play you get up and defend...not to drop to ground especially in the middle of the box

Cannot rely on him...Need to look for another leftback

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no width whatsoever, cant make overlaping runs and crosses like a proper fullback, it showed today his weaknesses, i wish a prime Ashley Cole type of player was playing for us, now that is a world class fullback.

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On 10/10/2018 at 5:35 PM, the wes said:

Marcos Alonso reveals he will sign contract extension 'in the coming days' as he compares Maurizio Sarri's style to Luis Enrique

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-6259997/Chelsea-defender-Marcos-Alonso-reveals-sign-contract-extension-coming-days.html

no pls

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Emerson who is the most ordinary of players might very well be more reliable. Especially in games like these were defending a lead is the priority. in 80% of games Alonso does nothing offensively but passing the ball back to Hazard every time he gets it and maybe put in a mediocre cross once in a while. I am 100% Emerson can do that too but he will not get found out on the break and if so he has the pace to recover.

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6 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said:

Emerson who is the most ordinary of players might very well be more reliable. Especially in games like these were defending a lead is the priority. in 80% of games Alonso does nothing offensively but passing the ball back to Hazard every time he gets it and maybe put in a mediocre cross once in a while. I am 100% Emerson can do that too but he will not get found out on the break and if so he has the pace to recover.

Sadly Sarri see the otherwise... 

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1 hour ago, Johnnyeye said:

it was really embarassing from Alonso, just man up and get up, that goal could have been prevented if Alonso wasnt a little bitch

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