Juan Cuadrado

[lucio 5,394]

what does he bring to the table that Willian cant?

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/chelsea-target-juan-cuadrado-pace-5034401

much more threatening dribbling and creates cjhances

[ilovecolombia 25]

Montella is always like this when it comes to Cuadrado.

Cuadrado is the star player of Fiorentina. Like their Messi or Ronaldo. They don't want him to go at all. And he's been wanting to move on for a while. They blocked a exit to Barcelona last year with these tactics and Barcelona because of FFP and their transfer ban had to back off.

Cuadrado is a much better player than Willian who is god awful. He plays in a much more defensive league and has more ways to open up defenses than you usually see in this league. One of the best dribblers in the world.

[nyikolajevics 2,422]

Really pisses me off that we are gonna go out and pay £25 million for this guy who in my opinion will not improve our team much. We could go all out for Reus -a proven world class player- rather than Cuadrado ffs

Because proven world class players like Torres and Shevchenko improved our squad so much.. Reus is overrated as fuck.

Cuadrado is exactly the player we need. He is in his best years and he will shine at Chelsea. I really hope he comes..

[MrBlueGuy 1,552]

NO NO NO NO NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, PLEASE NOOO

[petre.ispirescu 4,928]

Just trigger that fucking release clause and don't waste the money on Douglas Costa.

[nadavTKL 1,787]

Reus is overrated as fuck.

thats actually true i feel... though i really like him like everybody, the hype about him is unbelievable really.

Funny that suddenly Cuadrado is so wanted here after the D.Costa rumors started... when no one here saw them both more than 4 times. this forum is a disappointment, full of spoiled kids it seems. "Costa? another brazilian from Shaktar? and he doesnt score a lot? bah, give me Cuadrado... why? he aint this useless Costa!"... dont you think its embarrassing?

[MrBlueGuy 1,552]

thats actually true i feel... though i really like him like everybody, the hype about him is unbelievable really.

Funny that suddenly Cuadrado is so wanted here after the D.Costa rumors started... when no one here saw them both more than 4 times. this forum is a disappointment, full of spoiled kids it seems. "Costa? another brazilian from Shaktar? and he doesnt score a lot? bah, give me Cuadrado... why? he aint this useless Costa"... dont you think its embarrassing?

The only reason Reus is wanted so much is because he is popular as a player, as a person and that release clause of 20m kind of seal the deal. Who wouldn't want that handsome, talented guy in their team and couple with that bargain price of 20m making it seems like the obvious choice. Of course his recent injuries took the gloss off a bit for some people, but many are still attached to him.

Also it is natural about Cuadrado and Costa, it is like saying we should be going for a Ferrari(Reus) instead of a Porsche(Cuadrado) but then since the Porsche is too expensive let just go for a Toyota(Costa) instead. While Willian and Mkhitaryan got hyped during their time in Ukraine, no one really heard of this guy until he scored a couple of amazing goals in CL this season. Before then he is just a OK player in 99% people's eye and still is just that for me. Cuadrado at least got the WC to show his class, this guy no one has seen before apart from a couple of CL and even then doubt anyone watch Sharkta play in there.

Lastly, the price as I mentioned above play a huge factor as well. I mean if we are considering paying 30m for Costa, might as well make it 35m for Cuadrado who seems like an obviously better player. If Costa was 15m that would have been a different story.

[BlueLyon 9,359]

thats actually true i feel... though i really like him like everybody, the hype about him is unbelievable really.

Funny that suddenly Cuadrado is so wanted here after the D.Costa rumors started... when no one here saw them both more than 4 times. this forum is a disappointment, full of spoiled kids it seems. "Costa? another brazilian from Shaktar? and he doesnt score a lot? bah, give me Cuadrado... why? he aint this useless Costa!"... dont you think its embarrassing?

I rather dont sign anyone than sign Costa tbh. Thats why I hope Cuadrado move goes through.

Years and years of potentialy good wingers who were nothing special is enough for me. We signed Marin, Moses, Schurrle, Salah, Willian, KDB,...and it didnt work. Im tired of seeing new guy joining us every year just because he scored that one super goal, replacing older one who dissapointed.

We buy quantity and quantity and settle for middle priced wingers who are good for top four, but not for top two. Just bring one more expensive winger who shows real promise (like Hazard, Sanchez etc) and I will be happy.

When I see these Costa rumours, sure I want Cuadrado even more, because I can see scenario with Costa that he will flop here. He wont get proper chance, proper time. He aint used to play for top club and make difference, to improve few levels. I said exactly same things when we signed Salah last year (when I knew he aint good enough to break through, but I hoped for the best), I said same for Willian summer before. And Costa will be the same.

And you cant call that greed. If we had that ONE good winger on right side, I wouldnt care if we dont sign anyone and just keep Schurrle and Salah for next few years. But we dont have ONE good right winger. And buying Costa wont change that. I dont know about Cuadrado, but still looks 10 times better option than Costa. He is bit more expensive, but quality is expensive nowdays.

And honestly, what you think we need more; quality in one player who might decide games or quantity by bringing more players but in end, Willian will still play and others will sit on bench?

On other hand, we sold that one guy KDB who might, just might be realy important here right now. Scores goals, provides good crosses, creates width. But he doesnt work enough and Mou sold him. Oh well...

[MrBlueGuy 1,552]

On other hand, we sold that one guy KDB who might, just might be realy important here right now. Scores goals, provides good crosses, creates width. But he doesnt work enough and Mou sold him. Oh well...

Apparently being lazy and a cuntish attitude doesn't help too then there is that unspoken conflict with Courtois over gf issue(resolved but bitterness might still be there). Agree with your post though.

[nadavTKL 1,787]

The only reason Reus is wanted so much is because he is popular as a player, as a person and that release clause of 20m kind of seal the deal. Who wouldn't want that handsome, talented guy in their team and couple with that bargain price of 20m making it seems like the obvious choice. Of course his recent injuries took the gloss off a bit for some people, but many are still attached to him.

Also it is natural about Cuadrado and Costa, it is like saying we should be going for a Ferrari(Reus) instead of a Porsche(Cuadrado) but then since the Porsche is too expensive let just go for a Toyota(Costa) instead. While Willian and Mkhitaryan got hyped during their time in Ukraine, no one really heard of this guy until he scored a couple of amazing goals in CL this season. Before then he is just a OK player in 99% people's eye and still is just that for me. Cuadrado at least got the WC to show his class, this guy no one has seen before apart from a couple of CL and even then doubt anyone watch Sharkta play in there.

Lastly, the price as I mentioned above play a huge factor as well. I mean if we are considering paying 30m for Costa, might as well make it 35m for Cuadrado who seems like an obviously better player. If Costa was 15m that would have been a different story.

You still cant say you saw both Cuadrado and Costa enough times to say who's better and by how much, you keep talking about reputation (World cup, how many times people heard about the guy), i dont think that with this little evidence you should actaully post things like "Please dont buy him, why not Cuadrado", because its childish and silly. Our club follows those players, actually see them play. You didnt see them, yet you have no shame to talk about who should we sign. In other forums i know those kind of posts would be criticized, here its what everybody do.

[MrBlueGuy 1,552]

You still cant say you saw both Cuadrado and Costa enough times to say who's better and by how much, you keep talking about reputation (World cup, how many times people heard about the guy), i dont think that with this little evidence you should actaully post things like "Please dont buy him, why not Cuadrado", because its childish and silly. Our club follows those players, actually see them play. You didnt see them, yet you have no shame to talk about who should we sign. In other forums i know those kind of posts would be criticized, here its what everybody do.

Sometime you don't have to watch 5 seasons of each player to see who is better...if Costa is that good, 30m worth player then why is he not even considered for Brazil squad? Willian, Hulk...etc all got into that squad during their days at Porto, Sharkta. Cuadrado on the other hand is a regular starter for possibly one of the strongest Colombia squad in their history. He even got into the team 1st ahead of James a few years ago, that shows how talented he is.

Yep one is considered top 10 player in Serie A by many pundits, journalists and one is not even talked about or linked with anyone big in Europe until now. Costa is not even linked with a barely above mediocre team like Dortmund, Liverpool, Spurs...etc while Cuadrado is chased by MU and Barca last summer before his new contract. These things help contribute to showing who is CONSIDERED the better player.

Personally I never said Cuadrado is a must sign, but it appears Schurrle/Salah is leaving so naturally we should get the best replacement possible and he appears to be just that.

[nadavTKL 1,787]

And honestly, what you think we need more; quality in one player who might decide games or quantity by bringing more players but in end, Willian will still play and others will sit on bench?

Honestly? i dont know who would do better here - Cuadrado or Costa. I havent seen them enough times to say, and non of them is proven in a big club. From my view, both can sit on the bench and both can play insted of Willian in the RW spot. I dont know who's more talented.

And like you i would like us to get a world class RW, but there are some facts - you cant do that in January (maybe not in the summer as well), Salah and Schurlle cant contribute, and both are wanted by other teams. Therefore the club's options are: 1) To say to all teams no one is leaving us in Jan. 2) to try to sell one of those two players who cant contribute, and get a player that might will contribute. The decision is easy imo. In the summer you might have better options.

[WNDS 502]

I rather dont sign anyone than sign Costa tbh. Thats why I hope Cuadrado move goes through.

Years and years of potentialy good wingers who were nothing special is enough for me. We signed Marin, Moses, Schurrle, Salah, Willian, KDB,...and it didnt work. Im tired of seeing new guy joining us every year just because he scored that one super goal, replacing older one who dissapointed.

We buy quantity and quantity and settle for middle priced wingers who are good for top four, but not for top two. Just bring one more expensive winger who shows real promise (like Hazard, Sanchez etc) and I will be happy.

When I see these Costa rumours, sure I want Cuadrado even more, because I can see scenario with Costa that he will flop here. He wont get proper chance, proper time. He aint used to play for top club and make difference, to improve few levels. I said exactly same things when we signed Salah last year (when I knew he aint good enough to break through, but I hoped for the best), I said same for Willian summer before. And Costa will be the same.

And you cant call that greed. If we had that ONE good winger on right side, I wouldnt care if we dont sign anyone and just keep Schurrle and Salah for next few years. But we dont have ONE good right winger. And buying Costa wont change that. I dont know about Cuadrado, but still looks 10 times better option than Costa. He is bit more expensive, but quality is expensive nowdays.

And honestly, what you think we need more; quality in one player who might decide games or quantity by bringing more players but in end, Willian will still play and others will sit on bench?

On other hand, we sold that one guy KDB who might, just might be realy important here right now. Scores goals, provides good crosses, creates width. But he doesnt work enough and Mou sold him. Oh well...

KDB was never a viable long-term solution for our issues at RW, unfortunately. He is another player like Schurrle/Willian etc. who 'can play' in that position but is not a specialist there. His style of play and the key attributes he possesses are all those of a pure number 10; if he had made it here in the long-term, I suspect that it would have been at Oscar's expense rather than playing as a winger.

[Eidur the Spider 4,515]

Montella (Fiorentina Coach): "I believe it's a simple situation, Cuadrado has an exit clause that he agreed to with the club."

[nadavTKL 1,787]

Sometime you don't have to watch 5 seasons of each player to see who is better...if Costa is that good, 30m worth player then why is he not even considered for Brazil squad? Willian, Hulk...etc all got into that squad during their days at Porto, Sharkta. Cuadrado on the other hand is a regular starter for possibly one of the strongest Colombia squad in their history. He even got into the team 1st ahead of James a few years ago, that shows how talented he is.

Yep one is considered top 10 player in Serie A by many pundits, journalists and one is not even talked about or linked with anyone big in Europe until now. Costa is not even linked with a barely above mediocre team like Dortmund, Liverpool, Spurs...etc while Cuadrado is chased by MU and Barca last summer before his new contract. These things help contribute to showing who is CONSIDERED the better player.

Personally I never said Cuadrado is a must sign, but it appears Schurrle/Salah is leaving so naturally we should get the best replacement possible and he appears to be just that.

You are wrong, Douglas Costa played two games for Brazil, the same number of games Willian played for Brazil before he joined us. Its proving to be very hard to get to Brazil's squad, look at Fernandinho, F. Luis, Miranda, Willian and a lot more.

How many times you've heard of Cuadrado before last season? he's also two years older than Costa. Yes Cuadrado got better rep than Costa, but it doesnt say much. My point is that people in this forum thwroing their opinions on players they dont know at all. In this case they know non of the two.

[petre.ispirescu 4,928]

On other hand, we sold that one guy KDB who might, just might be realy important here right now. Scores goals, provides good crosses, creates width. But he doesnt work enough and Mou sold him. Oh well...

There's two things about a bench player - get 15 minutes and impress, or get 15 minutes and be dog turd and show you are just a bench warmer.

There is no such thing as "what do you expect from him if he only gets 15 minutes per game?". Bollocks. There have been World Cup winners and Ballon d'Or winners that have started on the bench with limited minutes to show what they are made of.

De Bruyne was a shambles and the game at Swindon is the best example - he could not even make a 5 yard pass ffs.

He is the perfect player for a side such as Wolfsburg or Villarreal. He will rack up goals and assists for fun because there is no pressure on his shoulders.

Maybe his body and his talent push him to higher levels, but his brain won't let him go that far.

[BlueLyon 9,359]

Honestly? i dont know who would do better here - Cuadrado or Costa. I havent seen them enough times to say, and non of them is proven in a big club. From my view, both can sit on the bench and both can play insted of Willian in the RW spot. I dont know who's more talented.

And like you i would like us to get a world class RW, but there are some facts - you cant do that in January (maybe not in the summer as well), Salah and Schurlle cant contribute, and both are wanted by other teams. Therefore the club's options are: 1) To say to all teams no one is leaving us in Jan. 2) to try to sell one of those two players who cant contribute, and get a player that might will contribute. The decision is easy imo. In the summer you might have better options.

Agree with second part and like I said, if we cant get Cuadrado or someone similar, just dont sell anyone or buy anyone.

About Cuadrado and Costa, well its true I only saw Cuadrado few times, but Costa almost never. But juding by their profile (league they play, opinions from other fans who watch them etc), I would say Cuadrado is much better option than Costa. What Cuadrado gives is certainly big rival for Willian spot. And probably the winner of the two. Costa on other hand, will take either Salah place or Schurrle place. And when Cuadrado costs 35 and Costa 20, I will take the risk of those 15m.

Cuadrado is in similar levels as Sanchez, but different abilities. Arsenal was buying Salah's and Costa's for ages, except they bought them younger and cheaper. With Sanchez, they paid more, but got much better player. I think to improve us, we will simply have to pay big money on that winger and right now Cuadrado is best bet. Reus will never get here, besides there is no guarantee he will succeed. While Bale, Sanchez,...wont even be available for us anytime soon.

We already missed on Sanchez last summer, if we end up with Costa and Cuadrado becomes hit in PL/La liga, everyone will be kicking his head here.

[bababoom 4,478]

Lets be real here, Cuadrado is the only quality RW available right now, last season he was brilliant, had a good world cup and even the likes of Barcelona wanted him... I'll be disappointed if we miss out on him and sign an unproven player in Costa.. his numbers (gls/ass) are awful for a player playing in the Ukraine league, apparently he's also very inconstant as well... i could see us buying both to replace Salah and Schurrle but the only problem with that is whether Jose is willing to give them adequate game time.. who knows.