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1 hour ago, Yeboii said:

wow okayyyy....?

I simply made an observation on what was happening for a good 20 minutes of the debate. Biden, who usually is pretty calm, raised his voice numerous times while answering pretty routine questions. He even pointed angrily at the moderator for a while as he was yelling. While Trump has much history with raising his voice, he didn't do that on this occation. 

My comment had nothing to do with me saying that Trump is better or vice-versa. Just a funny observation.

well, if that tis the case then I retract the full-on -blast, but there are far too many MAGAt vermin posts on here and I get instantly argy bargy

As a lesbian and a person of colour, every thing that Trump stands for, especially the empowerment of open raw white nationalism/racism/misogyny/homophobia now openly rearing its head on steroids, is abhorrent to me

that doesn't even deal with the insane geo-political geo-military, geo-economic global instability he has been weaving and bringing forth for years

sorry if I took your comment the wrong way

I am on hair trigger as I may take a position in Miami (a not insignificant promotion) with my firm next year, and will not take it (and thus possibly kneecap my career trajectory with the firm) if that motherfucker is still POTUS

that fundie slag Coney-Barrett, who will soon be rammed onto the US Supreme Course is also extraordinarily hostile to LGBTQ issues, and will likely help roll back gay marriage in the US, and there is ZERO chance I would ever live in nation that doesn't legally recognise my marriage

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Heh there are far more progressive places in the US than Miami or Florida, but good luck (in whichever form it may take).

I think a lot of people find Trump abhorrent. Many in the GOP hate him as well. What some conservatives are not getting is that this is not Bush II that we hate him because he's a GOP president... it goes way beyond disagreeing with someone's policies. I don't even find comedians who mock trump funny, because having a terrible person like him as the president of the USA is just so sad.

Now, the batshit crazy judge isn't entirely on trump. That's mostly Moscow Mitch and his "pact" that puts party above country.

Taking the elections slightly aside for a moment, and the problem here is becoming of representation. Perhaps we will be able to fix some of that by election day (talking about congress too), but if not, representation will get even more skewed towards the minority. In other words, congress, white house, and now the supreme court will always side with the minority on most issues. Although you are definitely right to be concerned, I suspect going back in LGBTQ's rights will be so unpopular that they may not dare go there (they only have a fraction of conservatives on these issues). On the other hand, they did vote for Citizens United, because corporations are people too. :rolleyes:  

We are witnessing the making of an authoritarian president - don't think he's too shy about that.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/22/us/politics/trump-executive-order-federal-workers.html

"Trump Issues Order Giving Him More Leeway to Hire and Fire Federal Workers
The move would give the president greater freedom to weed out what he sees as a “deep state” bureaucracy. The executive order, which could be rescinded if he is not re-elected, was condemned by civil service unions."

How can you provide oversight over someone who has the power to get rid of you?

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Watched the debate and 'Trump Show' on BBC. See him just as an egotistical spoilt Reality TV  star now, who would say black is white just to get out of a lie.

The real tragedy is that US politics has come down to two multi millionaires in a head to head that spent so much time saying how corrupt the other one was. Really ?? The US population deserve way better than this. Sadly going the same way in the UK , where lying and cheating and fraud by MPs is no longer a resigning matter, but now 'acceptable'. This amoral  behaviour filters down into the rest of society   -we need a sea change in politics before society is really fucked.

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37 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Watched the debate and 'Trump Show' on BBC. See him just as an egotistical spoilt Reality TV  star now, who would say black is white just to get out of a lie.

The real tragedy is that US politics has come down to two multi millionaires in a head to head that spent so much time saying how corrupt the other one was. Really ?? The US population deserve way better than this. Sadly going the same way in the UK , where lying and cheating and fraud by MPs is no longer a resigning matter, but now 'acceptable'. This amoral  behaviour filters down into the rest of society   -we need a sea change in politics before society is really fucked.

Sorry mate the society is already fucked and has been for a while. Said it before and I'll say it again, these 2 cunts are the best the US can offer? How is that even possible, its possible cuz they are both puppets, they have been put there by people much higher up. Its no better in EU for that matter. Boris is nothing but a clown, its a disgrace we have allowed this to happen.

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9 hours ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Watched the debate and 'Trump Show' on BBC. See him just as an egotistical spoilt Reality TV  star now, who would say black is white just to get out of a lie.

The real tragedy is that US politics has come down to two multi millionaires in a head to head that spent so much time saying how corrupt the other one was. Really ?? The US population deserve way better than this. Sadly going the same way in the UK , where lying and cheating and fraud by MPs is no longer a resigning matter, but now 'acceptable'. This amoral  behaviour filters down into the rest of society   -we need a sea change in politics before society is really fucked.

Biden has always been a bankster puppet (Delaware is his home state, where so many financial firms are incorporated due to lax oversight and tax laws) BUT, until he left office, he was basically still in debt, and not remotely a multi-millionaire. He has cashed in with a 10 million USD book deal and a shedload of massively compensated  for speeches, but is far from an oligarch himself.

What he is, unfortunately, is a fucking neoliberal at heart, and very much a 'club' (the Senate) good old boy. He has made a lot of (for America, not for anywhere lese) progressive noises, but I fear he will fold as soon as he gets pushback. The DNC helped grease the skids for him after he performed terribly in the beginning. Most of the Democratic Party was terrified of Sanders winning the nomination and then getting crushed (which would have happened, again unfortunately). The US is so artificially spun to the right in terms of its centre political axis.

The whole thing is terribly depressing. I am ONLY in this all because the world (not just the US) simply cannot afford for Trump to win again. I have almost no hope for any really positive change from a Biden regime, OTHER than he is far more stable and less racist than the traitorous monster Trump. Soft gradually corporate tyranny versus an almost certain civil war within 20 years (or less) should Trump win.

I still think that even if Biden wins, there is a good chance the US rips itself apart within 20 years. The RW has tossed away all pretence of reality (and the very concept of truth) and I fear has presently and quite likely permanently unleashed the hellhounds of white nationalism in terms of an open, raw platform of raging hatred.

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heh get rid of the electoral college and things will be a lot fairer overnight. No surprise here though... 

Binden is almost a ridiculous candidate, but he is a "safe" one and above all, he's a human being which makes him the only pick in this ticket. Hilary was terrible though, but still not the monster Trump is.

IMO, the crazy amount of money in politics, even citizen united itself, is just a natural "progression" of pure capitalism. Money will find its way into the most effective investments... and politics can be very effective.
"Soft money will find its way and seep into the political system and corrode it, unless we plug every hole." sen schumer

BTW, google 'cuomo on colbert" that bit was both entertaining and truthful as Cuomo described how it is to deal with this administration and criticize their "handling" (if you can call it that) of the pandemic.

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3 hours ago, robsblubot said:

heh get rid of the electoral college and things will be a lot fairer overnight. No surprise here though... 

Binden is almost a ridiculous candidate, but he is a "safe" one and above all, he's a human being which makes him the only pick in this ticket. Hilary was terrible though, but still not the monster Trump is.

IMO, the crazy amount of money in politics, even citizen united itself, is just a natural "progression" of pure capitalism. Money will find its way into the most effective investments... and politics can be very effective.
"Soft money will find its way and seep into the political system and corrode it, unless we plug every hole." sen schumer

BTW, google 'cuomo on colbert" that bit was both entertaining and truthful as Cuomo described how it is to deal with this administration and criticize their "handling" (if you can call it that) of the pandemic.

it takes a constitutional amendment to get rid of the electoral college, so it will never happen, as the small states will never cede the unfair power they now have

A Wyoming resident's POTUS vote is worth almost 4 times more than a California resident's vote, becuase Wyoming still gets 3 EV (2 senators and their lobe House rep) despite only having around 580,000 people

CA has 55 EV's BUT they have over 40 million people

If they had the same Electoral votes, adjusted for population, as Wyoming does, California would have 210 EV¨s not 55

its so fucked up, and its the ONLY reason there ever are Republican presidents now

there is a way to fix it

and no, not the Interstate Voting Compact, which will be found (especially now with a had RW 6-3 SCOTUS9 to be unconstitutional due to violating the Compact clause in the constitution (plus Red states will never sign onto a Blue wall)

to fix the electoral college 

the US has only one real option

drastically expand the size of the House of Representatives

that will massively increase the number of total EV's and then they can be doled out much more evenly

it only takes an act of Congress, not a constitutional amendment

the last time the House was expanded was 1913, when the US only had 97 million people. now it has 331 million (or more)

if the US had the same number of reps per person Sweden does (349 for a 10.15 million population)

The US House of representatives would have around 11,500 members!!!

it has 435 now (voting)

If the US House had the same as the UK house of commons (850 in a 68 million person UK), the US House would have around 3,200 members

you do not have to take the US to 3,200

but it needs to be increased to around 2,001

that yields a shedload more EV's to give to all the big US states who now are getting fucked

also, to fix the US Senate

they need to add DC and Puerto Rica as new states (they both have more people than Wyoming) and split california into North Cali and South Cali

that will yield 6 new Democratic Senators

as it stands

buy 2030 to 2032 or so

just 30% of the US population will control 70% of the 100 Senate seats

and that 30% is far more RW, rural, isolated, non travelling, far more reactionary, older, whiter, more fundy religious, less educated, poorer, more racist, than the other 70% of the nation, who will be stuck with only 30 seats, out of 100

6 new Dem seats will help balance that a bit

as it stands now, the RW has constitutionally 'kettled' (kettling is when police force a huge crowd into dead end streets to contain and control) the other side, as more and more people move into giant urban areas that already are Democratic, so they get fucked again

combined that with the RW voting suppression, illegal gerrymandering, and now the insane RW federal court packing that they have done etc

and you have a completely illegitimate minority rule atm

if not fixed, it WILL lead to a dissolution of the union and quite likely a violent civil war to get there

especially if the now radical RW SCOTUS and the rest of the stacked federal judiciary attempt to roll back all Brown v Board (1953, the case that declared separate but equal was unconstitutional and laid the groundwork for all the great civil right movements) and after civil rights protections for women and racial ethnic minorities, LGBTQ folk, etc and then try and nationalise the christofascist tyranny  (starting with attempts to force ALL states to ban abortion and to take away most all racial protections, and all LGBTQ protections and rights, including marriage) via federal troops (so ironic, as the racist RW always was the huge champion for STATES RIGHTS, in fact the US Civil was fought over that and slavery was the biggest states rights issue)

They will try and force all the Blue Democratic states to submit to their insane bigotry, racism, misogyny, homophobia and religious fascism

civil war will ensue shortly there after if they make that level of power play attempts

finally, the Democrats need to expand the Supreme Court to 15, and add 6 new justices

that re-balances the court to a 3 vote (9 to 6) liberal majority, as if the Rethugs had not stolen the 3 seats now, over the past 5 years, it would be 6-3 liberal, not 6-3 hard RW

THAT expansion will stop the civil war drumbeats in my above scenario

 

 

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this is from another site

and it is great

 

Parliament voted 321-261 on 21 October not to provide free school meals over school holidays to children in England who qualify. The roll call of who voted how can be seen here.

This is in contrast to the Welsh, Scottish and Northern Ireland governments' decisions to provide this help at least up to Easter next year.

The sums involved are minor compared to other often eyewatering and too often horrendously wasteful outlay during the COVID pandemic - e.g. the initiative will cost £10-11 million in both Wales and Scotland.

It's hard to think of any other intervention at the moment that could be more cost-effective other than paying Dominic Cummings, Boris Johnson, the cabinet - indeed, the whole Tory government - to fuck off somewhere very distant and remote and never plague us again.

The backlash has been immediate, from the trivial of Rishi Sunak being given a life ban from his local pub to Tory MP Caroline Ansell resigning as parliamentary private secretary at the Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs to Nigel Farage tweeting "If the government can subsidise Eat Out to Help Out, not being seen to give poor kids lunch in the school holidays looks mean and is wrong." to a groundswell of initiatives from businesses and councils to fill the gap.

If you've been following the news over last day or so, you'll no doubt gather the footballer I'm referring to in the OP title is Marcus Rashford, who's ridden the wave of revulsion, and constructive action in response, since the vote and is serving as a very effective figurehead.

Throughout the last couple of days his Twitter account has been retweeting initiatives from all across England, ranging from Macdonald's donation of 1 million free meals to other national and local businesses offering their contributions to local councils finding the money from their already overstretched budgets to make humanitarian provision.

His last tweet this evening reads:

 

 
Marcus Rashford MBE
@MarcusRashford

I’m signing off with a feeling a pride tonight. The superstars of this nation lie in local communities. Even after taking the biggest hits you have wrapped your arms around your community to catch children as they fell. I really can’t thank you enough, you’re amazing ♥️



The hashtag #endchildfoodpoverty is being used to spread the word, campaign and share resources and information.

It's not hard to be heartened, like Rashford, at the outpouring of goodwill, which has gone far beyond wellwishes to concrete action.

This contrasts unflatteringly with what's come out of the government and Tories at large before, during and after the vote.

Here's Ben Bradley (FSM = free school meals):

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His main contribution so far has been to pathetically pester Rashford on Twitter to attend some self-seeking local photo opportunity under the guise of "dialogue":

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Here's Baronness Nicky Morgan on last night's BBC Question Time, peering down from her new elevated position in the Lords to show that charity begins at home - her home, apparently, and nobody else's - and adding an unappetizing soupçon of childish spite as her pièce de résistance:

 
 
BBC Question Time
@bbcquestiontime

“The Labour party might have found they got more supporters if the deputy leader hadn’t called one of the Conservative MPs scum.”

Nicky Morgan clashes with @bphillipsonMP over free school meals. On #bbcqt, 10:45pm, @bbcone



"Scum" is among the milder expressions that are flying about at the moment:

 
 
ComradeGeordie
@ComradeGeordie

Working class North east people voting Tory! What did you expect would happen? Ice cream and Jelly! Save your crocodile tears
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I'm not the only one to have been reminded of the stellar words of a superb German comedian:

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Many do pay their taxes in the UK (as an aside, charity is not unknown in Germany, either). Needless to say, the richest pay the least proportionately, and too many make it a mark of honour - good business - to pay as little as possible or none.

There's plenty of money sloshing around in the COVID slurry at the moment. The sums involved in free school meal provision are minuscule compared to the billions wasted on unscrutinized contracts that will never be fulfilled.

Maybe each and every schoolkid in need to should put in a bid to supply PPE to the government - if as successful as the Tories' cronies, they'd never go hungry again.
 
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24 minutes ago, Vesper said:

it takes a constitutional amendment to get rid of the electoral college, so it will never happen, as the small states will never cede the unfair power they now have

A Wyoming resident's POTUS vote is worth almost 4 times more than a California resident's vote, becuase Wyoming still gets 3 EV (2 senators and their lobe House rep) despite only having around 580,000 people

CA has 55 EV's BUT they have over 40 million people

If they had the same Electoral votes, adjusted for population, as Wyoming does, California would have 210 EV¨s not 55

its so fucked up, and its the ONLY reason there ever are Republican presidents now

there is a way to fix it

and no, not the Interstate Voting Compact, which will be found (especially now with a had RW 6-3 SCOTUS9 to be unconstitutional due to violating the Compact clause in the constitution (plus Red states will never sign onto a Blue wall)

to fix the electoral college 

the US has only one real option

drastically expand the size of the House of Representatives

that will massively increase the number of total EV's and then they can be doled out much more evenly

it only takes an act of Congress, not a constitutional amendment

the last time the House was expanded was 1913, when the US only had 97 million people. now it has 331 million (or more)

if the US had the same number of reps per person Sweden does (349 for a 10.15 million population)

The US House of representatives would have around 11,500 members!!!

it has 435 now (voting)

If the US House had the same as the UK house of commons (850 in a 68 million person UK), the US House would have around 3,200 members

you do not have to take the US to 3,200

but it needs to be increased to around 2,001

that yields a shedload more EV's to give to all the big US states who now are getting fucked

also, to fix the US Senate

they need to add DC and Puerto Rica as new states (they both have more people than Wyoming) and split california into North Cali and South Cali

that will yield 6 new Democratic Senators

as it stands

buy 2030 to 2032 or so

just 30% of the US population will control 70% of the 100 Senate seats

and that 30% is far more RW, rural, isolated, non travelling, far more reactionary, older, whiter, more fundy religious, less educated, poorer, more racist, than the other 70% of the nation, who will be stuck with only 30 seats, out of 100

6 new Dem seats will help balance that a bit

as it stands now, the RW has constitutionally 'kettled' (kettling is when police force a huge crowd into dead end streets to contain and control) the other side, as more and more people move into giant urban areas that already are Democratic, so they get fucked again

combined that with the RW voting suppression, illegal gerrymandering, and now the insane RW federal court packing that they have done etc

and you have a completely illegitimate minority rule atm

if not fixed, it WILL lead to a dissolution of the union and quite likely a violent civil war to get there

especially if the now radical RW SCOTUS and the rest of the stacked federal judiciary attempt to roll back all Brown v Board (1953, the case that declared separate but equal was unconstitutional and laid the groundwork for all the great civil right movements) and after civil rights protections for women and racial ethnic minorities, LGBTQ folk, etc and then try and nationalise the christofascist tyranny  (starting with attempts to force ALL states to ban abortion and to take away most all racial protections, and all LGBTQ protections and rights, including marriage) via federal troops (so ironic, as the racist RW always was the huge champion for STATES RIGHTS, in fact the US Civil was fought over that and slavery was the biggest states rights issue)

They will try and force all the Blue Democratic states to submit to their insane bigotry, racism, misogyny, homophobia and religious fascism

civil war will ensue shortly there after if they make that level of power play attempts

 

 

There is also Washington DC... prime example of taxation without representation. They are super blue, so the GOP is terribly afraid DC gets any representation.

I'm not entirely sure a pacific separation wouldn't be in the cards for the future. The feeling seems to be mutual: as in the blue estates don't want to deal with red states and vice versa.

All of this is only possible because the GOP and their crazy views actually have representation, even if smaller.

Fox New proves that people can be convinced of literally anything.

* Democrats are full of shit in certain areas too, but nothing compared to Fox News and GOP propaganda. The anti-science rhetoric alone should be grounds for legal action esp during a pandemic.

 

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2 minutes ago, robsblubot said:

There is also Washington DC... prime example of taxation without representation. They are super blue, so the GOP is terribly afraid DC gets any representation.

I'm not entirely sure a pacific separation wouldn't be in the cards for the future. The feeling seems to be mutual: as in the blue estates don't want to deal with red states and vice versa.

It's all possible because the GOP and their crazy. views actually have representation, even if smaller.

Fox New proves that people can be convinced of literally anything.

* Democrats are full of shit in certain areas too, but nothing compared to Fox News and GOP propaganda. The anti-science rhetoric alone should be grounds for legal action esp during a pandemic.

 

I said to add DC as a state, along with Puerto Rico and then split Californai into North and South

that will add 6 new Democratic Senators and help to sort it 

look at my original long post

I also added more at the end about re-balancing the SCOTUS

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27 minutes ago, Vesper said:

I said to add DC as a state, along with Puerto Rico and then split Californai into North and South

that will add 6 new Democratic Senators and help to sort it 

look at my original long post

I also added more at the end about re-balancing the SCOTUS

ah my bad did not see those in there. 

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Nice to see restaurants and people getting behind Marcus Rashford and getting involved in the scheme...makes a change for postive headliners for a footballer...shame it was voted against by those who matter..who now being put to shame really 

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2 hours ago, Laylabelle said:

Nice to see restaurants and people getting behind Marcus Rashford and getting involved in the scheme...makes a change for postive headliners for a footballer...shame it was voted against by those who matter..who now being put to shame really 

Amazing the tory thieves can find billions for restaurants but nothing for starving children

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Boris Johnson is facing growing condemnation for an “appalling” Tory alliance with neo-Nazi and anti-Muslim parties across Europe.

The pact sees the party’s MPs sitting alongside the “heirs of Mussolini” in Italy and an Estonian party that celebrates its wartime collaboration with Hitler, among other far-right groups

Lord Balfe was kicked out of the European Conservatives Group for protesting to No 10 after the group “invited in” the far-right parties

The best-known far-right parties in the coalition are the anti-immigrant Alternative for Germany and Italy’s Northern League, but others are even more extreme.

The Brothers of Italy was born out of the country’s fascist movement, while the first leader of the Freedom Party of Austria – once headed by the notorious Jorg Haider – was a Nazi minister and SS officer.

Lord Balfe said he has seen the Sweden Democrats “walk around Stockholm with swastikas”, while Bulgaria’s United Patriots “were elected on the basis that there were too many mosques”.

The Conservative People’s Party of Estonia attends an annual march to commemorate the Estonian Legion –  a unit of the Waffen-SS during the Second World War.

Lord Balfe said he met several times with government whips, but was told to drop the controversy – on one occasion, because he “can’t expect the PM to be on top of everything”.

 

Cant expect Johnson to be on top of anything tbh, apart from the four women he has 8 kids with....fat slapper

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The New York Times Editorial Board: "The Republican Party needs to be crushed & the earth salted behind it."

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/24/opinion/sunday/trump-republican-party.html

R.I.P., G.O.P.': New York Times Declares Republican Party Will Die with  Trump's Defeat

Of all the things President Trump has destroyed, the Republican Party is among the most dismaying.

“Destroyed” is perhaps too simplistic, though. It would be more precise to say that Mr. Trump accelerated his party’s demise, exposing the rot that has been eating at its core for decades and leaving it a hollowed-out shell devoid of ideas, values or integrity, committed solely to preserving its own power even at the expense of democratic norms, institutions and ideals.

Tomato, tomahto. However you characterize it, the Republican Party’s dissolution under Mr. Trump is bad for American democracy.

A healthy political system needs robust, competing parties to give citizens a choice of ideological, governing and policy visions. More specifically, center-right parties have long been crucial to the health of modern liberal democracies, according to the Harvard political scientist Daniel Ziblatt’s study of the emergence of democracy in Western Europe. Among other benefits, a strong center right can co-opt more palatable aspects of the far right, isolating and draining energy from the more radical elements that threaten to destabilize the system.

Today’s G.O.P. does not come close to serving this function. It has instead allowed itself to be co-opted and radicalized by Trumpism. Its ideology has been reduced to a slurry of paranoia, white grievance and authoritarian populism. Its governing vision is reactionary, a cross between obstructionism and owning the libs. Its policy agenda, as defined by the party platform, is whatever President Trump wants — which might not be so pathetic if Mr. Trump’s interests went beyond “Build a wall!”

“There is no philosophical underpinning for the Republican Party anymore,” the veteran strategist Reed Galen recently lamented to this board. A co-founder of the Lincoln Project, a political action committee run by current and former Republicans dedicated to defeating Mr. Trump and his enablers, Mr. Galen characterized the party as a self-serving, power-hungry gang.

With his dark gospel, the president has enthralled the Republican base, rendering other party leaders too afraid to stand up to him. But to stand with Mr. Trump requires a constant betrayal of one’s own integrity and values. This goes beyond the usual policy flip-flops — what happened to fiscal hawks anyway? — and political hypocrisy, though there have been plenty of both. Witness the scramble to fill a Supreme Court seat just weeks before Election Day by many of the same Senate Republicans who denied President Barack Obama his high court pick in 2016, claiming it would be wrong to fill a vacancy eight months out from that election.

Mr. Trump demands that his interests be placed above those of the nation. His presidency has been an extended exercise in defining deviancy down — and dragging the rest of his party down with him.

Having long preached “character” and “family values,” Republicans have given a pass to Mr. Trump’s personal degeneracy. The affairs, the hush money, the multiple accusations of assault and harassment, the gross boasts of grabbing unsuspecting women — none of it matters. White evangelicals remain especially faithful adherents, in large part because Mr. Trump has appointed around 200 judges to the federal bench.

For all their talk about revering the Constitution, Republicans have stood by, slack-jawed, in the face of the president’s assault on checks and balances. Mr. Trump has spurned the concept of congressional oversight of his office. After losing a budget fight and shutting down the government in 2018-19, he declared a phony national emergency at the southern border so he could siphon money from the Pentagon for his border wall. He put a hold on nearly $400 million in Senate-approved aid to Ukraine — a move that played a central role in his impeachment.

So much for Republicans’ Obama-era nattering about “executive overreach.”

Despite fetishizing “law and order,” Republicans have shrugged as Mr. Trump has maligned and politicized federal law enforcement, occasionally lending a hand. Impeachment offered the most searing example. Parroting the White House line that the entire process was illegitimate, the president’s enablers made clear they had his back no matter what. As Pete Wehner, who served as a speechwriter to the three previous Republican presidents, observed in The Atlantic: “Republicans, from beginning to end, sought not to ensure that justice be done or truth be revealed. Instead, they sought to ensure that Trump not be removed from office under any circumstances, defending him at all costs.”

The debasement goes beyond passive indulgence. Congressional bootlickers, channeling Mr. Trump’s rantings about the Deep State, have used their power to target those who dared to investigate him. Committee chairmen like Representative Devin Nunes and Senator Ron Johnson have conducted hearings aimed at smearing Mr. Trump’s political opponents and delegitimizing the special counsel’s Russia inquiry.

As head of the Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee, Mr. Johnson pushed a corruption investigation of Mr. Biden’s son Hunter that he bragged would expose the former vice president’s “unfitness for office.” Instead, he wasted taxpayer money producing an 87-page rehash of unsubstantiated claims reeking of a Russian disinformation campaign. Senator Mitt Romney of Utah, another Republican on the committee, criticized the inquiry as “a political exercise,” noting, “It’s not the legitimate role of government or Congress, or for taxpayer expense to be used in an effort to damage political opponents.”

Undeterred, last Sunday Mr. Johnson popped up on Fox News, engaging with the host over baseless rumors that the F.B.I. was investigating child pornography on a computer that allegedly had belonged to Hunter Biden. These vile claims are being peddled online by right-wing conspiracymongers, including QAnon.

Not that congressional toadies are the only offenders. A parade of administration officials — some of whom were well respected before their Trumpian tour — have stood by, or pitched in, as the president has denigrated the F.B.I., federal prosecutors, intelligence agencies and the courts. They have failed to prioritize election security because the topic makes Mr. Trump insecure about his win in 2016. They have pushed the limits of the law and human decency to advance Mr. Trump’s draconian immigration agenda.

Most horrifically, Republican leaders have stood by as the president has lied to the public about a pandemic that has already killed more than 220,000 Americans. They have watched him politicize masks, testing, the distribution of emergency equipment and pretty much everything else. Some echo his incendiary talk, fueling violence in their own communities. In the campaign’s closing weeks, as case numbers and hospitalizations climb and health officials warn of a rough winter, Mr. Trump is stepping up the attacks on his scientific advisers, deriding them as “idiots” and declaring Dr. Anthony Fauci, the government’s top expert in infectious diseases, a “disaster.” Only a smattering of Republican officials has managed even a tepid defense of Dr. Fauci. Whether out of fear, fealty or willful ignorance, these so-called leaders are complicit in this national tragedy.

As Republican lawmakers grow increasingly panicked that Mr. Trump will lose re-election — possibly damaging their fortunes as well — some are scrambling to salvage their reputations by pretending they haven’t spent the past four years letting him run amok. In an Oct. 14 call with constituents, Senator Ben Sasse of Nebraska gave a blistering assessment of the president’s failures and “deficient” values, from his misogyny to his calamitous handling of the pandemic to “the way he kisses dictators’ butts.” Mr. Sasse was less clear about why, the occasional targeted criticism notwithstanding, he has enabled these deficiencies for so long.

Senator John Cornyn of Texas, locked in his own tight re-election race, recently told the local media that he, too, has disagreed with Mr. Trump on numerous issues, including deficit spending, trade policy and his raiding of the defense budget. Mr. Cornyn said he opted to keep his opposition private rather than get into a public tiff with Mr. Trump “because, as I’ve observed, those usually don’t end too well.”

Profiles in courage these are not.

Mr. Trump’s corrosive influence on his party would fill a book. It has, in fact, filled several, as well as a slew of articles, social media posts and op-eds, written by conservatives both heartbroken and incensed over what has become of their party.

But many of these disillusioned Republicans also acknowledge that their team has been descending into white grievance, revanchism and know-nothing populism for decades. Mr. Trump just greased the slide. “He is the logical conclusion of what the Republican Party has become in the last 50 or so years,” the longtime party strategist Stuart Stevens asserts in his new book, “It Was All a Lie.”

The scars of Mr. Trump’s presidency will linger long after he leaves office. Some Republicans believe that, if those scars run only four years deep, rather than eight, their party can be nursed back to health. Others question whether there is anything left worth saving. Mr. Stevens’s prescription: “Burn it to the ground, and start over.”

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Cant believe that copper who broke that womans neck and killed her just got let off murder.

Joe Strummer was spot on with Know Your Rights[

''You have the right not to be murdered - unless it is done by a policeman''

 

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How can it not be murder! You can't strangle someone by accident and seeing as his job role would require ways to restrain someone without damage...unless cause died later on in in hospital as a result..who knows either way I think there is a max sentence for Manslaughter so hopefully he gets that. Still...odd verdict!

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