zolayes 14,489 Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Do you think it was classy from Ancelotti when he was discussing things with Roman in 2006 when Jose Mourinho was our manager at the time?no ,,,but answer my question about the sacking of Wilkins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HRiver 1,512 Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Probably it's second biggest mistake after Mou was sacked. 2 years ? It's max what u can get at Chelsea even if u won 2 major trophies in first season ? 2 years ? even fishes can live longer ... We are Real Madrid of PL.If only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace. 4,352 Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 How that dummy Emanalo escapes the chop is another story though.....We don't know whether he's good at his job or not. So we can't tell if he deserved to be axed or not.Unless you know something we don't (i mean, if you know the result of his work or something like that) ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eldo 868 Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 We don't know whether he's good at his job or not. So we can't tell if he deserved to be axed or not.Unless you know something we don't (i mean, if you know the result of his work or something like that) ?Maybe he's not the best manager, but maybe he could be good for us? Someone that fits to Roman's plans and is that long-term manager.Imo Roman is great, I thank that Buck and Gourlay are taking the piss out of us and Roman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinineUltra 1,170 Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 I have to admit I'm finding it really hard to feel sorry for a man who has made £18m for just two seasons work.so where do you draw the line to the sum one earns that you would feel sorry for? Im guessing if a person earns even a little bit more, you'd find it hard to feel sorry for him. But tell you what buddy, thats called envy..all it is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace. 4,352 Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Maybe he's not the best manager, but maybe he could be good for us? Someone that fits to Roman's plans and is that long-term manager.Imo Roman is great, I thank that Buck and Gourlay are taking the piss out of us and Roman.I didn't see it like this, but now you mentioned it, he gets my vote to become our next manager Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eldo 868 Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 I didn't see it like this, but now you mentioned it, he gets my vote to become our next manager Ron Gourlay is better choice.Who assesses their jobs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 A wise guy in british media:Roman Abramovich made the correct decision in sacking Carlo Ancelotti"Ancelotti is a great football man, as his playing and managerial record handsomely attest. But a truly great manager? It is possible to argue that at Milan he took over a side built first by Arrigo Sacchi and then by Fabio Capello, and that the success of his first season at Chelsea was achieved on foundations erected by Claudio Ranieri and José Mourinho, then re-established by Guus Hiddink after the interludes of Luiz Felipe Scolari and Avram Grant.""The sudden abandonment of the policy in the second half of the season indicated the lack of sure guidance at a very senior level. But then Ancelotti has never been noted for giving youth its head – at Milan, indeed, he was famous for preserving the careers of illustrious veterans long past their normal retirement dates – and it was disappointing to see the talented youngsters loaned out or sent back to the reserves."http://www.guardian....amovich-chelsea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosnian Blue 2,471 Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Sacking Wilkins is bigger mistake than sacking Ancelotti.We need one football man in that board,someone like Hiddink.It is important that Roman listens to whoever that man is so he doesn't make these knee-jerk decisions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diskoviolente 425 Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 The thing is that Roman tried to get Carlo on board for ages and lured him away from Milan to treat him like that ? Everyone who says "yeah if i do a bad job i´d expected to be fired" but in this case the whole story isn´t that easy as in a fucking office block where you try to clean the coffee stains from your white shirt.Imagine that first of all the team you relied on and had good days with just doesn´t perform anymore, people get sick and pull sickies every week. Than your best mate and co-worker who is some sort of "people-person" got sacked for no reason and you are on your own trieing to bond with people you only know for a year or so.Anyway, making a short cut here: what makes people think that it is that easy saying Carlo just didn´t perform. There is nothing as such as a mono-cause explenation for what happened last season.TBH with you, the moment i read that Carlo got sacked I felt ashamed to support Chelsea, for the first time ever.In the words of a wiser man than me: IT IS A FUCKING DISGRACE ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 The thing is that Roman tried to get Carlo on board for ages and lured him away from Milan to treat him like that ? Everyone who says "yeah if i do a bad job i´d expected to be fired" but in this case the whole story isn´t that easy as in a fucking office block where you try to clean the coffee stains from your white shirt.Imagine that first of all the team you relied on and had good days with just doesn´t perform anymore, people get sick and pull sickies every week. Than your best mate and co-worker who is some sort of "people-person" got sacked for no reason and you are on your own trieing to bond with people you only know for a year or so.Anyway, making a short cut here: what makes people think that it is that easy saying Carlo just didn´t perform. There is nothing as such as a mono-cause explenation for what happened last season.TBH with you, the moment i read that Carlo got sacked I felt ashamed to support Chelsea, for the first time ever.In the words of a wiser man than me: IT IS A FUCKING DISGRACE !http://www.redcafe.net/forum.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diskoviolente 425 Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Yeah whatever, Henrique. You know how this was meant concerning the context.I don´t have to explain my love for the Club. But they way the board has run it...well, we are defenitly not in the position to slag of West Ham about the ways with their managers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionsden 4,689 Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Seeking continuity with the wrong manager is counter-productive IMHO. Ancelotti's sacking was fully justified even though it could have been handled differently and that's the only criticism I have with the board. How do you sack a manager immediately after the post match interview lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Yeah whatever, Henrique. You know how this was meant concerning the context.I don´t have to explain my love for the Club. But they way the board has run it...well, we are defenitly not in the position to slag of West Ham about the ways with their managers.I was kidding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diskoviolente 425 Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 sorry mate. it is a bit difficult to tell from writing only when there is a joke.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve 10,227 Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 http://www.redcafe.net/forum.phpI don't find that to be a joke, especially to one of our more loyal members on this forum. If anything you should be on that site, you would suit there fans perfectly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henri 115 Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Carlos Ancelotti is a top notch coach and will rise again just you wait and see!. Yes he made mistake, but really does not every coach do that in every season?. And why always blamethe coach and not the players?. My rage is against Abramovich, im so feet up with this guys way of treating people, thats really the disgrace. And please get rid of this shit banner"roman whatever... . I need to cool down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
termninja 5,290 Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 http://www.redcafe.net/forum.phpDo not bring up that piece of :censored: forum in front of our :censored: faces! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrismada9 1,948 Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 A year ago, he was the toast of the club and English football in some ways. The most successful season in 105 years of the club's existence. And 12 months on, you're telling me that he's crap because he came second? That's one prime example of Roman's thin-wearing patience on top class managers. Either that, or the expectations of the club are ridiculusly high (which, to be fair, they are). If Carlo's credentials were available to the footballing world (i.e. he had no club, but had the tactical mettal to just go to any club and promote them) I bet a club like West Ham would break the bank to aquire his services. The point I'm making, is rather than stick with a manager, who enjoys managing the club, despite not winning anything in a season, and quite a large chunk of that season goes tits up, Roman just disposes of them like worn out sandpaper. They look good once they first start out, then when there's any sign of wearing out, it just gets chucked.I don't think Roman understands the true meaning of "the long run". If a manager is kept at a club for long enough, he will understand the setup more. He will understand the type of players to buy every summer/January period. He will understand the formations to pick every week, and he will learn to take responsibility of the players regarding their performance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionsden 4,689 Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Like Abramovich actually gives a shit lmao Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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