Stamford Bridge Thread

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On 18/07/2018 at 2:01 PM, Fulham Broadway said:

Neil Barnett sacked !

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On ‎29‎/‎07‎/‎2018 at 5:39 AM, kiwi1691 said:

The point discussed by the Chelsea fans is as follows: rather than Roman spending £1bn+ to build a somewhat restricted (albeit beautiful) stadium at Stamford Bridge necessitating a four year exile at Wembley, why not build a great new stadium at Earls Court on a larger, less restricted site? This would mean that the club could play at SB while the building was taking place and then the site could be sold to developers once the club had moved into Earls Court thereby largely financing the overall scheme. 

Exactly what I've always favoured and argued for. If this possibility becomes a genuine option then I'd back it one hundred percent.

Even though I've attended more than a thousand football matches at Stamford Bridge, I believe the benefits of relocating far outweigh the emotional attachment to our traditional home. In addition to the advantages listed, and those alone already make an unanswerable case in my opinion, a new stadium would also permit improved amenities around the ground and better transport links to it. Compared to a new build at Earls Court, there is nothing to be said for redeveloping The Bridge other than nostalgia.

Is nostalgia enough to justify spending an extra billion pounds, playing four years of 'away' fixtures and finishing up with a stadium which is less good than the one we could build at Earls Court? I don't believe that it is. Nostalgia is great but it's the future that counts. Look what happened to Fulham. They used to be the best team in London but in 1905 they decided against moving to the new stadium down the road when they were offered the chance. Their decision forced the owners of Stamford Bridge to start a new club instead. Now Fulham are not even the best team in Fulham.

Let's not make the same mistake The Cottagers did. It's wise to use the present to make plans for the future, and it would be catastrophic not to choose the future over the past.

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23 hours ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

 

Even though I've attended more than a thousand football matches at Stamford Bridge,

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1 hour ago, Vesper said:

First match at The Bridge in Jan '74; first season ticket in 1976. By the way, that season ticket cost me £22. Twenty-two quid!!

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4 minutes ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

First match at The Bridge in Jan '74; first season ticket in 1976. By the way, that season ticket cost me £22. Twenty-two quid!!

you be lucky if 22 quid got you 2 pints and 2 pies now

 

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On ‎06‎/‎06‎/‎2018 at 11:48 PM, Unionjack said:

I THINK most of the times where we would be standing is just like we do now. During times of added emotions highs and lows. Then we could sit down like normal.

Way I'd do it anyway as I iz no spring chicken bud!

Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think you will have the option to sit in 'safe standing' areas. I think the area can be configured for everyone to stand or for everyone to sit, not both. A few hundred people choosing to sit, dotted around, would put paid to the 'safe' part of the safe standing system.

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7 minutes ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think you will have the option to sit in 'safe standing' areas. I think the area can be configured for everyone to stand, or for everyone to sit. A few hundred people choosing to sit, dotted around, would put paid to the 'safe' part of the safe standing system.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-26149790/safe-standing-football-rail-seat-explained

 

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5 hours ago, Unionjack said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-26149790/safe-standing-football-rail-seat-explained

Thanks UJ,

That's exactly as I understood it then. If you want to sit you have to go to an all seated area; if you want to stand then you go to an all standing area. People who want to stand at high emotion moments, and sit during others, will have to buy tickets for all seated areas and 'break' the ground regs. Just like they do now.

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Thanks UJ,
That's is exactly as I understood it then. If you want to sit you have to go to an all seated area; if you want to stand then you go to an all standing area. People who want to stand at high emotion moments, and sit during others, will have to buy tickets for all seated areas and 'break' the ground regs. Just like they do now.

Exactly.

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28 minutes ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

Thanks UJ,

That's is exactly as I understood it then. If you want to sit you have to go to an all seated area; if you want to stand then you go to an all standing area. People who want to stand at high emotion moments, and sit during others, will have to buy tickets for all seated areas and 'break' the ground regs. Just like people do now.

I get your point

But I dont understand why mate, If like this vid there was some added spring system (like the chairs at the cinema)  when you stood up the chairs would fold su there would be no blockages in case of emergency etc,.

There must be a way to be able to sit or stand without views being blocked surely.

 

 

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6 hours ago, Unionjack said:

I get your point

But I dont understand why mate, If like this vid there was some added spring system (like the chairs at the cinema)  when you stood up the chairs would fold su there would be no blockages in case of emergency etc,.

There must be a way to be able to sit or stand without views being blocked surely.

 

 

There can't be a way to allow people to sit when they want to in a standing area while also guaranteeing that no one will stand in front of them.

It also will not be safe. You and I remember the Shed and how it was then. Safe standing won't be the same as that was, but people will still go crazy at times. Seated people who can't move with the, lateral, wave just become obstacles for people to trip and fall over. It would happen all the time and there would be injuries, some serious. Because of this there is absolutely zero chance that clubs would get a licence to allow seated fans in safe standing areas.

The video makes it quite clear that there is not even a proposal that seated and standing areas would be mixed. It makes clear that, once an area has been set up for safe standing, individual fans will not be able to lower the seat so they can sit in it. As you may remember, I'm strongly against the return of standing but the tide looks like its going against my point of view. If this happens, and a match going fan does not wish to, or feel able to, stand for two hours or so, then they are going to need to get tickets in seated areas.

P.S. I notice you changed the video in your original post. Good work, the new one explains the safe standing method more clearly. People will see even better now that there is no provision for sitting in the safe standing areas.

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33 minutes ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

There can't be a way to allow people to sit when they want to in a standing area while also guaranteeing that no one will stand in front of them.

It also will not be safe. You and I remember the Shed and how it was then. Safe standing won't be the same as that was, but people will still go crazy at times. Seated people who can't move with the, lateral, wave just become obstacles for people to trip and fall over. It would happen all the time and there would be injuries, some serious. Because of this there is absolutely zero chance that clubs would get a licence to allow seated fans in safe standing areas.

The video makes it quite clear that there is not even a proposal that seated and standing areas would be mixed. It makes clear that, once an area has been set up for safe standing, individual fans will not be able to lower the seat so they can sit in it. As you may remember, I'm strongly against the return of standing but the tide looks like its going against my point of view. If this happens, and a match going fan does not wish to, or feel able to, stand for two hours or so, then they are going to need to get tickets in seated areas.

I think you paint a grimmer picture than whats reallity somewhat,

Ive not seen much craziness up in MH East for awhile unless its some guy thats lost his internet comms.

I understand that the proposed system means that the seats will be either up or down but I'm saying OK. Lets call this end a standing area but lets give us the sitting option of the ones in the vid but lets try to adapt it to add this spring system that puts the seat back into its upright position if the user stands up so there wouldn't be any seats left don in case there ever was any commotion. Nobody is going to be 100% safe. But I know that I'd like the chance to take the weight off my feet at times.