The English Football Thread

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37 minutes ago, Johnnyeye said:

that cunt Anthony Taylor will ref our game against City, fml 🤦‍♂️

No way? Man why are the club not saying anything

12 minutes ago, Milan said:

Ref born in Manchester, costing us 2 FA Cup finals already. Sure, what can go wrong this time?

Put money on us getting shafted all game......they need the top 4 battle to go on, Chels coming to town, bent is bent.

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On 01/05/2021 at 23:44, Jas said:

These media organizations are really hypocrites. They decided to take the moral high ground by boycotting social media when they have contributed to the online abuse for years. 

 

On 02/05/2021 at 03:40, Jas said:

The worst thing about this is places Sky Sports, BT Sport, TalkSport constantly have pundits who just give hot takes and no proper analysis, insight to get clicks and likes week in week out. It's no different to fans who do the same on social media and the only difference is the fans use foul language or profanities instead. What those hot takes ended up doing is just stoking the fire on teams, players, managers and giving the fans "food" to jump on them. 

I know the United fans have every reason to despise the Glazers and it's different from the online abuse thing but this is exactly what I meant with these media organizations contributing to things like that or what happened at Old Trafford. You have someone like Gary Neville who was publicly backing the protest that was by no mean peaceful, especially when compared to the last week's, and calling for others to do the same. Wanting to punish the owners or want them out is one thing but calling for fans to do what United fans did on Sunday is just madness. Almost as if Neville doesn't care if people get injured, properties get destroyed along the way as long as it drives the Glazers out (which won't happen).

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14 minutes ago, Jas said:

 

I know the United fans have every reason to despise the Glazers and it's different from the online abuse thing but this is exactly what I meant with these media organizations contributing to things like that or what happened at Old Trafford. You have someone like Gary Neville who was publicly backing the protest that was by no mean peaceful, especially when compared to the last week's, and calling for others to do the same. Wanting to punish the owners or want them out is one thing but calling for fans to do what United fans did on Sunday is just madness. Almost as if Neville doesn't care if people get injured, properties get destroyed along the way as long as it drives the Glazers out (which won't happen).

Come on, there is staggering levels of hypocrisy from many people on what's gone on!

Before every game we have players bending the knee in support of an extremist anti western political movement. One who's supporters spent litterally months rioting, looting and burning down buildings causing billions of dollars of damage.  And what did we see? Wide support from the Left on mainstream and social media and politicians.  with the fecking vice president even raising bail money for rioters. But now we're supposed to condem those Utd fans for throwing a few fire crackers and  skirmishes with the police.

World is going crazy!

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Jas said:

 

I know the United fans have every reason to despise the Glazers and it's different from the online abuse thing but this is exactly what I meant with these media organizations contributing to things like that or what happened at Old Trafford. You have someone like Gary Neville who was publicly backing the protest that was by no mean peaceful, especially when compared to the last week's, and calling for others to do the same. Wanting to punish the owners or want them out is one thing but calling for fans to do what United fans did on Sunday is just madness. Almost as if Neville doesn't care if people get injured, properties get destroyed along the way as long as it drives the Glazers out (which won't happen).

GN that cunt has no legs to stand on himself......he is fucking hired by sky sports and yet he has the audacity to open his mouth. Always been a cunt, I would have tore him a new one if I was apundit.

48 minutes ago, chippy said:

Come on, there is staggering levels of hypocrisy from many people on what's gone on!

Before every game we have players bending the knee in support of an extremist anti western political movement. One who's supporters spent litterally months rioting, looting and burning down buildings causing billions of dollars of damage.  And what did we see? Wide support from the Left on mainstream and social media and politicians.  with the fecking vice president even raising bail money for rioters. But now we're supposed to condem those Utd fans for throwing a few fire crackers and  skirmishes with the police.

World is going crazy!

 

 

 

Bending the knee is a Soros creation, that explains itself

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1 hour ago, chippy said:

Come on, there is staggering levels of hypocrisy from many people on what's gone on!

Before every game we have players bending the knee in support of an extremist anti western political movement. One who's supporters spent litterally months rioting, looting and burning down buildings causing billions of dollars of damage.  And what did we see? Wide support from the Left on mainstream and social media and politicians.  with the fecking vice president even raising bail money for rioters. But now we're supposed to condem those Utd fans for throwing a few fire crackers and  skirmishes with the police.

World is going crazy!

Are you saying that what the United fans did specifically during the protest was right?

Let's not forget that there have been at least two attempts of attacking Ed Woodward at his house. How much of that has been indirectly spurred on by the likes of Gary Neville, whose favorite hobby just seem to be bashing the Glazers, Woodward etc (even if he's not necessarily wrong with the point) week in week out on Sky?

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https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/04/sports/soccer/manchester-city-premier-league.html

Edited May 4, 2021 by Atomiswave

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5 hours ago, Johnnyeye said:

that cunt Anthony Taylor will ref our game against City, fml 🤦‍♂️

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1 hour ago, Jas said:

Are you saying that what the United fans did specifically during the protest was right?

Let's not forget that there have been at least two attempts of attacking Ed Woodward at his house. How much of that has been indirectly spurred on by the likes of Gary Neville, whose favorite hobby just seem to be bashing the Glazers, Woodward etc (even if he's not necessarily wrong with the point) week in week out on Sky?

I am totally against targeting Woodward at his home, or any direct threats to anyone for that matter. 

There are better ways of getting the Glazers out than doing what they did on Sunday. Said it before, next season, fans have mass walkouts once the games have started. Could be a long, drawn out struggle and in the short term in would hurt the team and the fans longing to get back to watching their team. But I do think it would eventually make the Glazers sell up.

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WTF....

How is that not distortion of competition?

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6 minutes ago, Patrick Bamford said:

WTF....

How is that not distortion of competition?

They dont know what the fuck they are doing......then you add the power the likes of Sky has and there you go.

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27 minutes ago, Patrick Bamford said:

WTF....

How is that not distortion of competition?

Why did they not just move WBA v Liverpool to that midweek and slap Man Utd v Liverpool on that weekend instead?

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13 minutes ago, Jas said:

Why did they not just move WBA v Liverpool to that midweek and slap Man Utd v Liverpool on that weekend instead?

Cause be logical..and a way of punishing really. 

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1 minute ago, Laylabelle said:

Cause be logical..and a way of punishing really. 

Maybe but we now have an unfair situation. Given United will finish 2nd and Liverpool are their arch rivals, which fixture do you think Solskjaer will really prioritize between the Leicester and Liverpool? How is that fair to the teams trying to chase Leicester if United suddenly play a weakened team against them?

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5 minutes ago, Jas said:

Maybe but we now have an unfair situation. Given United will finish 2nd and Liverpool are their arch rivals, which fixture do you think Solskjaer will really prioritize between the Leicester and Liverpool? How is that fair to the teams trying to chase Leicester if United suddenly play a weakened team against them?

It's not but doubt they given much of a crap about that. Wonder what they'd done if both teams were chasing 4th..make it more even? Hmm guess never know. 

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5 minutes ago, Laylabelle said:

It's not but doubt they given much of a crap about that. Wonder what they'd done if both teams were chasing 4th..make it more even? Hmm guess never know. 

I also find it silly that our fixture against Leicester has been put on Tuesday - 3 days after the cup final - rather than Wednesday.

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8 minutes ago, Jas said:

I also find it silly that our fixture against Leicester has been put on Tuesday - 3 days after the cup final - rather than Wednesday.

Telly..telly..telly..telly...

One small advantage I guess is same amount of rest so no one gains in that sense

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I don't know where to put this, but they are an English team, so here is good. Man Utd fans having a go at each other because we are in the CL final. It is quite entertaining.

https://www.redcafe.net/threads/united-are-a-top-7-club-right-now.462589/

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