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[MoroccanBlue 5,408]

19 minutes ago, Nero said:

That's what I want to see from Chelsea attackers. Son was benched and reacted immediately with an hattrick in 14 minutes. 

Why doesn't Pulisic have this attitude?

 

 

Not as good

[Vesper 31,181]

17 minutes ago, Nero said:

Why doesn't Pulisic have this attitude?

[Blue Armour 4,759]

1 hour ago, Nero said:

That's what I want to see from Chelsea attackers. Son was benched and reacted immediately with an hattrick in 14 minutes. 

Why doesn't Pulisic have this attitude?

 

 

None of our attackers have that level of quality. 

Overall we're a stronger team. But we have no strong individuals to lift us up on a regular basis.

[MoroccanBlue 5,408]

1 hour ago, Blue Armour said:

None of our attackers have that level of quality. 

Overall we're a stronger team. But we have no strong individuals to lift us up on a regular basis.

With each passing season our recruitment strategy over the past half a decade is looking worse and worse. 
 

Marina was sacked. No way did she leave on her own accord. 

[LAM09 7,100]

2 hours ago, Nero said:

That's what I want to see from Chelsea attackers. Son was benched and reacted immediately with an hattrick in 14 minutes. 

Why doesn't Pulisic have this attitude?

 

 

The latter thinks he's far better than he is & so does anyone even slightly linked to the US NT.

[laura90 556]

250 mil spend and we will finish 6-9. Madness. By the way, I believed players were Tuchel's choice untill the moment he was sacked. Now, I don't. No way Auba was his signing, let alone KK or Cucurela, even Zakaria. Fofana was picked by using some data analyzes.

Auba because we needed striker desperately and he was the only one willing to come, not because of Tuchel.

Only Tuchel signing is Sterling, the rest are bad alternatives that will move us away from the top.

200 mill on old below average players, only at Chelsea. Boehly will very soon realize that he is nowhere near  qualified to run bloody football club. 

7th place is my guess.

[Blue Armour 4,759]

6 hours ago, MoroccanBlue said:

With each passing season our recruitment strategy over the past half a decade is looking worse and worse. 
 

Marina was sacked. No way did she leave on her own accord. 

We dumped a lot of money on a bunch of disaster signings. Lukaku was the worst, but I'm also looking at the money paid for Havertz.

What did the scouts see in a player like him to warrant that kind of fee? 

More than 2 years here and he hasn't found his step. Unless covid fucked him like Vesper said, but I don't think he has issues with stamina.

Anyway. The less said about Havertz the better. Him and Mount have been beyond disappointing so far. Every season we would like to see how much they've improved from the previous season, but this year they're both acting like a couple of primadonnas that have achieved everything in football and have decided to take a break.

I was really hoping our youth players would step it up a notch again this season, but they seem to have gone backwards., in the direction of countless flops like Delle Ali and the rest.

Looks like we need to go hunting again for another Hazard or Drogba. No idea where we will find one though.

Edited September 18, 2022 by Blue Armour

[Reddish-Blue 2,702]

5 hours ago, laura90 said:

250 mil spend and we will finish 6-9. Madness. By the way, I believed players were Tuchel's choice untill the moment he was sacked. Now, I don't. No way Auba was his signing, let alone KK or Cucurela, even Zakaria. Fofana was picked by using some data analyzes.

Auba because we needed striker desperately and he was the only one willing to come, not because of Tuchel.

Only Tuchel signing is Sterling, the rest are bad alternatives that will move us away from the top.

200 mill on old below average players, only at Chelsea. Boehly will very soon realize that he is nowhere near  qualified to run bloody football club. 

7th place is my guess.

That's what happens when you don't have a Sporting Director in place.    Go look at our London rivals and how they've been able to attract talent and sign the players they need.   Arsenal needed a striker, they got their #1 target in Gabriel Jesus.   Spurs wanted midfield depth & more options, they got Bissouma, Perisic, Richarlison.  

We have to give the new owners time and hopefully once we get the Sporting Director in place, we'll be able to build a decent squad for the next 5 years. 

Feel like Auba & Zakaria will come good once they've had a proper run with the team and Sterling is without doubt the best attacker we have at the club.  Broja should only get better with more games and I guess we can only hope that Havertz is able to score goals as that's what he was brought here to do...and so far he hasn't shown any of that Leverkusen skill set.  

[Laylabelle 9,754]

2-0 Arsenal..Jesus scores again...

Edited September 18, 2022 by Laylabelle

[milka 3,407]

14 hours ago, laura90 said:

250 mil spend and we will finish 6-9. Madness. By the way, I believed players were Tuchel's choice untill the moment he was sacked. Now, I don't. No way Auba was his signing, let alone KK or Cucurela, even Zakaria. Fofana was picked by using some data analyzes.

Auba because we needed striker desperately and he was the only one willing to come, not because of Tuchel.

 

 

[Vesper 31,181]

nil 3 now

atm, Citeh, Spuds, and Arse are easily the best 3 teams in the EPL, as Pool has been shit, as have we, and Manure has hardly been Superb

[milka 3,407]

14 hours ago, laura90 said:

250 mil spend and we will finish 6-9. Madness. By the way, I believed players were Tuchel's choice untill the moment he was sacked. Now, I don't. No way Auba was his signing, let alone KK or Cucurela, even Zakaria. Fofana was picked by using some data analyzes.

 

200 mill on old below average players, only at Chelsea. Boehly will very soon realize that he is nowhere near  qualified to run bloody football club. 

If Tuchel didn't have a say in transfers, Ronaldo would be a Chelsea player now 

[Vesper 31,181]

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[Vesper 31,181]

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[laura90 556]

4 hours ago, milka said:

If Tuchel didn't have a say in transfers, Ronaldo would be a Chelsea player now 

You know, there is a difference between alright then and categorically no. We urgently needed two CBs, we needed back up or new LWB (depending on Chilwell status) and we needed midfielder, ( we got Saul last year) as well as striker. That was six players we would have signed regardless of the manager. 

IF Tuchel was fully respected he would have got his six new players at the start of the transfer window not on the deadline day. Majority of our signings were Alright then and not his preferred  options. No manager would be stupid enough to consider KK as adequate replacement for Rudiger.

Fofana, maybe but there were reports board opted for him.

Is this Ronaldo story true? Tuchel said no and that's when they decided to fire him? After getting him 250 mill asset they fired him over Ronaldo? That just sounds stupid. I don't believe it. 

Tuchel is very good coach. But we handed him very average players, looking at their behaviour on the pitch and their age, they look like pensioners  society more than a squad. 100 years old defence, 60 years old injury prone midfield, 34 years striker.... No manager would compete with this, sorry. Not even Klopp.

Those youngsters werent  Tuchel choice either.

Tuchel wanted eluseve targets. Was that his incapability to find more accessible targets, but alternatives are so bad that even his sacking afterwards made perfect sense.

 

Edited September 18, 2022 by laura90

[Reddish-Blue 2,702]

5 hours ago, laura90 said:

You know, there is a difference between alright then and categorically no. We urgently needed two CBs, we needed back up or new LWB (depending on Chilwell status) and we needed midfielder, ( we got Saul last year) as well as striker. That was six players we would have signed regardless of the manager. 

IF Tuchel was fully respected he would have got his six new players at the start of the transfer window not on the deadline day. Majority of our signings were Alright then and not his preferred  options. No manager would be stupid enough to consider KK as adequate replacement for Rudiger.

Fofana, maybe but there were reports board opted for him.

Is this Ronaldo story true? Tuchel said no and that's when they decided to fire him? After getting him 250 mill asset they fired him over Ronaldo? That just sounds stupid. I don't believe it. 

Tuchel is very good coach. But we handed him very average players, looking at their behaviour on the pitch and their age, they look like pensioners  society more than a squad. 100 years old defence, 60 years old injury prone midfield, 34 years striker.... No manager would compete with this, sorry. Not even Klopp.

Those youngsters werent  Tuchel choice either.

Tuchel wanted eluseve targets. Was that his incapability to find more accessible targets, but alternatives are so bad that even his sacking afterwards made perfect sense.

 

The story was that Boehly & co wanted to get Ronaldo in as the marquee signing (from a jersey sales point of view) and by getting Ronaldo they would also be in Mendes good books for future transfers (as he's basically the hot line for most Portuguese based players). 

Feel like Tuchel was let go because he had no plan B for our failures on the pitch.  Playing youngsters like Gallagher out of position was the first indication that he was losing it...the Leeds game was a sackable offense and then we got beaten by Southampton....and a number of users on Talk Chelsea mentioned that Tuchel's reign was likely coming to an end.  

It's not the fact that we lost to Leeds, Southampton or Zagreb, it's the fact that we had ZERO ideas about how to score a goal and our defense was being killed by any team with a decent press.  Could you imagine us facing City or even Arsenal right now? 

[Blue Armour 4,759]

While Haaland is no doubt a monster, and everyone his raving about how he is going to break PL records, every striker will eventually be found out in the PL.

I'm not saying he is going to become useless all of sudden. Far from it.

But at this point in time, no back line in the PL has been able to come up with a strategy to deal with him.

Salah in his record breaking season was considered unstoppable, but he has been found out in the past couple of years IMO. Teams are able to put him off his game and restrict him from getting into great scoring positions. 

The hot-streak that Haaland is on will eventually be broken. When it happens, it will be interesting to see how he adapts his play to still make himself useful for his team.

Edited September 19, 2022 by Blue Armour

[Strike 7,854]

56 minutes ago, Blue Armour said:

While Haaland is no doubt a monster, and everyone his raving about how he is going to break PL records, every striker will eventually be found out in the PL.

I'm not saying he is going to become useless all of sudden. Far from it.

But at this point in time, no back line in the PL has been able to come up with a strategy to deal with him.

Salah in his record breaking season was considered unstoppable, but he has been found out in the past couple of years IMO. Teams are able to put him off his game and restrict him from getting into great scoring positions. 

The hot-streak that Haaland is on will eventually be broken. When it happens, it will be interesting to see how he adapts his play to still make himself useful for his team.

City scored 100 goals without him last season. They will have zero issue going back to their false 9 system

[dimmas 131]

12 hours ago, laura90 said:

You know, there is a difference between alright then and categorically no. We urgently needed two CBs, we needed back up or new LWB (depending on Chilwell status) and we needed midfielder, ( we got Saul last year) as well as striker. That was six players we would have signed regardless of the manager. 

IF Tuchel was fully respected he would have got his six new players at the start of the transfer window not on the deadline day. Majority of our signings were Alright then and not his preferred  options. No manager would be stupid enough to consider KK as adequate replacement for Rudiger.

Fofana, maybe but there were reports board opted for him.

Is this Ronaldo story true? Tuchel said no and that's when they decided to fire him? After getting him 250 mill asset they fired him over Ronaldo? That just sounds stupid. I don't believe it. 

 

"IF Tuchel was fully respected he would have got his six new players at the start of the transfer window not on the deadline day"

What? What do you mean by this? 😵

This is real life not in football mamager world.

 

We really try to pursued first target. Do you just forget it? how many hours and days, Chelsea board try so many things to negotiate and persuade rapinha, de jong, and de light to name of few to be acquired

 

And about koulibaly, no one know how good or bad he would be if KK plays in the EPL. As an adequate substitute? Maybe yes maybe know. Nobody knows exactly. But beside de light, KK is considered as best possible target to to fill our cb spot isn't it?

About cucurela. What i remembered tuchel speak so highly about him, when he actually play right?

 

And about midfielder. I don't know. Something from tuchel comment, and the idea he actually tried to impelement on the pitch, make me feel he actually feel quite enough with our midfield option. Just want backup and number. Upgrade and change to higher quality midfielder like de jong feels like something nice to have but not absolute must.

 

And about tuchel get sacked. I believe and maybe hope, it's really nothing to do with ronaldo rumors at all.

The factor actually because the board and maybe many of us aswell, feel he isn't not the right man anymore. He keep getting stuck with same thing, don't have solution, can't help and improve any player anymore even since a year ago. We keep playing shit football more than a year. Do you even watch how bad our team performance was? It's like more than a year, consistently our team show that kind of same struggle and lackluster performance.

When nothing changes it's not just alarming, but some action need to be taken

Edited September 19, 2022 by dimmas

[Laylabelle 9,754]

10 hours ago, Blue Armour said:

While Haaland is no doubt a monster, and everyone his raving about how he is going to break PL records, every striker will eventually be found out in the PL.

I'm not saying he is going to become useless all of sudden. Far from it.

But at this point in time, no back line in the PL has been able to come up with a strategy to deal with him.

Salah in his record breaking season was considered unstoppable, but he has been found out in the past couple of years IMO. Teams are able to put him off his game and restrict him from getting into great scoring positions. 

The hot-streak that Haaland is on will eventually be broken. When it happens, it will be interesting to see how he adapts his play to still make himself useful for his team.

Tbf Salah even though found out scored plenty of goals last season. Still golden boot and all. Just for some reason made out to be a bit poor lately but mainly cause they're not focuses on what he doesn't do rather then what he does.