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5 minutes ago, different level said:

Ox's teams are doing great recently. 4-0 and 5-0 losses in his last two PL appearences. 

On 28 August 2011, he made his Arsenal debut in the 8–2 defeat away to Manchester United, as a 62nd-minute substitute for Francis Coquelin.

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i was just about to write that as soon as a team like Stoke matches Utd for height and dirty tackles, they look nothing special and can win if they do not commit stupid mistakes...and bang they commit a stupid mistake. 

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and btw how lovely a match is choupo-mouting and stoke? i did realized he had moved there. A 6'3 winger who can't control a ball to save his life but always the first to stick out a long leg to score a crazy volley or break someone's jaw bone. Watching him at Schalke always made me think what a perfect stoke player. If he was French/Belgian and had a more active social media account he would also be the perfect Mourinho player. 

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The only reason the Mane red is even a talking point is because he plays for Liverpool. If he played for us, it will be 100% clear cut anyone speaking against it ridiculed and mocked.

It's the same way our stonewall penalty will barely get a mentioned by the good ol' boys in the English football establishment. It's Chelsea so who cares about them right?

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