The English Football Thread

[Laylabelle 9,296]

9 minutes ago, Special Juan said:

Liverpool were fabulous, took the game to a City side who are actually beatable despite popular belief.

Press high, work hard and you win games.

Whereas we cant press... Or pass.... 

Guess arsenal fans can be happy they're still the invinceables.. 

[Pizy 17,860]

Like I said, we simply don't have the players to do what Spuds and Liverpool do. As world class as Eden is, he's ain't pressing and running like a madman like Salah/Mané/Son etc do. Cesc is as slow as I am and I'm not a professional athlete. He can't press. Bakayoko is a headless chicken who would kick people to shreds if he pressed high.

I can picture in my mind the likes of Pedro, Willian, and Kante playing super high energy games but unlike Salah and Mané neither Pedro or Willian will score double figures like they do. 

At the moment we're sort of caught in limbo. The 3-4-3 that was brilliant last season has been figured out and we kind of have an identity problem.

[Azpinator 2,325]

14 minutes ago, Pizy said:

Their fans will definitely go overboard but for once I cant blame them. Their future looks extremely bright.

Salah could do a Coutinho if he keeps performing so well. I find it hard to picture Liverpool as a future dominant force in Europe.

[Fulham Broadway 16,393]

Oh well, I suggest we all cheer ourselves up with a dose of Arsenal Fan TV tonite, should be a blinder.

[Pizy 17,860]

4 minutes ago, Azpinator said:

Salah could do a Coutinho if he keeps performing so well. I find it hard to picture Liverpool as a future dominant force in Europe.

Not dominant but a serious threat. With as shite as even the best teams in the world are defensively they'll cause anyone problems with their attack.

[dimmas 123]

12 minutes ago, Special Juan said:

Press high, work hard and you win games.

We could try that. But we simply don't have the players 

 

Our team lack technical players and players with excellent understanding ofintelegent movement.

We only have one creative midfielder but with big liability, one brilliant player but barely shoot, and one striker with many excellent atrribute but sometimes cannot finish the chance with his feet

[Special Juan 27,103]

1 minute ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Oh well, I suggest we all cheer ourselves up with a dose of Arsenal Fan TV tonite, should be a blinder.

 

[xPetrCechx 13,546]

Sick to fucking death of watching teams playing class football. We're miles behind...

[Laylabelle 9,296]

2 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Oh well, I suggest we all cheer ourselves up with a dose of Arsenal Fan TV tonite, should be a blinder.

Poor Cech... 

It is funny.. Wenger in. Out.. In.. Out... And repeat.. Theyre also guilty of doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result

[BlueLyon 9,359]

6 minutes ago, Special Juan said:

Liverpool were fabulous, took the game to a City side who are actually beatable despite popular belief.

Press high, work hard and you win games.

This is the golden rule of how to beat Pep or similar attacking teams.

These squads are fraud, sheep in wolf clothing. Looking marvelous and unbeatable when they have possesion but absolutely clueless under pressure. 

Reason why Pep is winning is because small teams close down and thats water on mill for Pep players. Teams like liverpool try attack but eventualy gas out. Top top teams destroy Pep teams (since his last barca season to be specific). 

Yet we and bunch of other quality sides defend whole game. Its literaly giving them the game on plate and hope we somehow score a fluke. Great example was juve vs bayern when juve attacked and bayern under Pep couldnt do shit, but then in the end they decided to park the bus and conceded two goals. 

This City team is perfect for PL demolition but they will crumble against top sides. I said it last week, Otamendi and Stones are so damn overrated and when they go against top opponents, 1v1 they will get raped. 

By no meaning City is bad team, they are five times better in attack, but you judge teams when they are under pressure, and city and also Pep today proved they are still the same old chicken team when you press them. 

I actualy belive city will run PL for a while, get finished in CL once they get someone better and after Pep leaves, the team will be left in big shock like Bayern because no other manager can handle attack like Pep and the defensive fragilities will get exposed. 

We are not on their level at all, but people saying Pep City is best team in europe should take a look again. Pep has no plan B and Stones, Otamendi, Sterling or Fernandinho under pressure when it realy matters turn into bang average. Otamendi and Fernandinho get rattled so quick, red card is always on the brink when they are losing badly.

Liverpool on other hand is playing beautiful beautiful offense, but they have little skill and experience to actualy finish the game on high. If they were more pragmatic at 4:1 it would be easier for them to win comfortably. 

I think if we added two quality players, we are equal. Most definately they have better attack and movement, but we actualy have defenders who can perform under pressure, we know how to adopt and we are efficient (at least we were 😂). This makes it harder for us in league games, but easier in elimination matches.

[DDA 9,570]

5 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Oh well, I suggest we all cheer ourselves up with a dose of Arsenal Fan TV tonite, should be a blinder.

Already watched it. Troopz is fucking done fam!

[The Chels 2,502]

23 minutes ago, Pizy said:

Like I said, we simply don't have the players to do what Spuds and Liverpool do. As world class as Eden is, he's ain't pressing and running like a madman like Salah/Mané/Son etc do

Hazard doesn't press because he isn't instructed to. Mourinho and Conte are simply not pressing managers. The likes of Sane, Neymar, De Bruyne, Messi, Griezmann, etc. are not what you'd call "natural pressers" but they do it because that's what the system they play in demands.

[Unionjack 7,531]

13 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Oh well, I suggest we all cheer ourselves up with a dose of Arsenal Fan TV tonite, should be a blinder.

I cheer myself up just knowing I'm not in north London!

[BlueLyon 9,359]

5 minutes ago, xPetrCechx said:

Sick to fucking death of watching teams playing class football. We're miles behind...

Yes we could play more entertaining indeed.

But when you read and hear everywhere how quality is stones and otamendi and fernandinho, and then you see them roasted when they get under pressure, I laugh at city. 

So much for world class defenders. One gets outmucled by firmino like a doll and the other two agression freaks with zero composure when under pressure. 

Dont let their attack decive you how poor they actualy are when they are 1v1 or under pressure. 

Bunch of pretenders. Where is the football when top top teams actualy had quality players like Vieira, Scholes, Ferdinand,...

Remember this City will get spanked by either Barca, Bayern, Psg, Juve or even maybe Real althrough they are shit. 

Beating evertons and and west hams is one thing when they chicken out before the game starts and oppisition makes city players play the most comfortable way. 

Top teams will press the shit out of them and I look forward for the rape of Otamendi Stones and whoever pep throws because they while being good footballers are average defenders at best. 

[Sideshow Luiz 2,310]

25 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Oh well, I suggest we all cheer ourselves up with a dose of Arsenal Fan TV tonite, should be a blinder.

That's exactly what I'm doing now, LOL

[xPetrCechx 13,546]

Finally the weakness of Stones and Otamendi has exposed.

Teams were afraid to attack city, like Conte played against them at the bridge...

[Pizy 17,860]

13 minutes ago, The Chels said:

Hazard doesn't press because he isn't instructed to. Mourinho and Conte are simply not pressing managers. The likes of Sane, Neymar, De Bruyne, Messi, Griezmann, etc. are not what you'd call "natural pressers" but they do it because that's what the system they play in demands.

That's certainly part of it but I also think it's just not in his character. He's an easy going, nonchalant player. Almost a bit lazy like Özil. Doesn't enjoy expending much energy without the ball. Even times when you see Conte yelling "Go! Go! Go!" on the touchline for our players to press up he does so halfheartedly.

[Azpinator 2,325]

50 minutes ago, xPetrCechx said:

Sick to fucking death of watching teams playing class football. We're miles behind...

Are we really?

Yes we have a couple of things to sort out in our attack, but on our day we can beat anyone. It was Liverpool's day, they also had something to prove after the whole Coutinho saga.