The English Football Thread

[bushman 2,043]

Exactly I have thought that for many years. I don't know why they never do anything. So many public bad decisions, causing injuries, relegation, loss of points, trophies, lol

If they got fined or banned like players and managers they would so blatantly cheat.

Since I do not consider myself an expert on refereeing, but I can see so many mistakes being done weekly, I too wonder what´s the hold up here ? The tech is available, but replays are not used.., to rely on the ref only, it just does not work well. The side ref picks his nose, most of the times = unreliable too.

England as the country with so advanced in tech & is not willing to utilize it ? Something is fishy here, I feel.

[didierforever 7,349]

OF COURSE HE PICKED FELLANI.

Noone at Man Utd would ever have picked someone so sh**. He is never a Utd player. Moyes was going on and on about him before he came to Utd, he wanted him, he thinks he is great. He is bloody awful, but Moyes can't see a decent player for ****.

He even had to pay MORE for him than RVP, what a joke.

Yes he wanted those people but why suddenly such a huge club as Utd, couldn't get ANYONE else but he is no draw. In a matter of weeks all the respect and ethos that Utd had, he had embarrassed it.

Believe what you want , that is the truth. I tell you had Fergie still be there, Ronaldo would have been at Old Trafford right now.

since u will conveniently ignore, the facts about herrera and when united actually bought fellaini, i wont bother to go into it.

we paid MORE, infact double for torres than RVP. what a joke. mistakes can and will happen.

he would have been able to get players if he had splashed money. but what u have so easily ignored is that moyes has been given the assurance of time. in his first matches he tried and tested all the players of the united squad and since then players like anderson,young, nani,fabio, buttner, have been considered deadwood by him. he just dint want to overhaul the whole squad as soon as he came in. he gave these players their chances and now will make his move. on the other hand, even some1 like SAF was not able to pull players like OSCAR, HAZARD, MOURA and they were taken from right under his nose.

i believe he is a decent man and a decent manager. to compare him to SAF is unfair. infact to compare any manager to SAF is unfair.

[bushman 2,043]

Was red nosed the God, then ?

Since we shouldn´t compare him to anyone ?

How many years we have seen manures getting all the advantages under him ? The right calls, the right schedules...etc.

No one can or should doubt red nosed as the most successful manager, but this man was there for years.

[Special Juan 28,140]

What was more suspicious about the whole United thing was how the refs who Fergie didn't like always never reffed a United game.

[bushman 2,043]

There you go. Red nosed influenced the FA, then.

Just read some those passages from his shitty book. Red nosed must have been drinking when he wrote the book.

[didierforever 7,349]

Was red nosed the God, then ?

Since we shouldn´t compare him to anyone ?

How many years we have seen manures getting all the advantages under him ? The right calls, the right schedules...etc.

No one can or should doubt red nosed as the most successful manager, but this man was there for years.

precisely. SAF was there for years. yet he dint win anything for his first 4 years but people are already ridiculing moyes after 4 months.

united have had a tough fixture and to be honest how many of us actually thought that united have a PL winning squad compared to squads like ours or city's? it was SAF's genius that made them a PL winning squad. nothing else. right now they should be fighting for a CL spot and by the looks of it that is what they are doing.

[bushman 2,043]

precisely. SAF was there for years. yet he dint win anything for his first 4 years but people are already ridiculing moyes after 4 months.

united have had a tough fixture and to be honest how many of us actually thought that united have a PL winning squad compared to squads like ours or city's? it was SAF's genius that made them a PL winning squad. nothing else. right now they should be fighting for a CL spot and by the looks of it that is what they are doing.

Well, Manures had a tough fixture, I read. Fuck them & how tough was it ? All I read the champions here, there & suddenly the Clueless One comes on board & manures are not capable to beat anyone. These cunts just got lucky in 3 games.

What actually changed in their squad since last year ? Did anyone leave ? No, no one. They bought that hairy clown too.

[Sidzeret 2,257]

precisely. SAF was there for years. yet he dint win anything for his first 4 years but people are already ridiculing moyes after 4 months.

united have had a tough fixture and to be honest how many of us actually thought that united have a PL winning squad compared to squads like ours or city's? it was SAF's genius that made them a PL winning squad. nothing else. right now they should be fighting for a CL spot and by the looks of it that is what they are doing.

precisely. SAF was there for years. yet he dint win anything for his first 4 years but people are already ridiculing moyes after 4 months.

united have had a tough fixture and to be honest how many of us actually thought that united have a PL winning squad compared to squads like ours or city's? it was SAF's genius that made them a PL winning squad. nothing else. right now they should be fighting for a CL spot and by the looks of it that is what they are doing.

Pretty sure they aint gona make the top 4 with this kinda form.

The winter transfer window is going to be their most vital period. Make or break. Still, the purchases need to work post January.

Otherwise, its going to be......

[The_Flash 1,144]

since u will conveniently ignore, the facts about herrera and when united actually bought fellaini, i wont bother to go into it.

we paid MORE, infact double for torres than RVP. what a joke. mistakes can and will happen.

he would have been able to get players if he had splashed money. but what u have so easily ignored is that moyes has been given the assurance of time. in his first matches he tried and tested all the players of the united squad and since then players like anderson,young, nani,fabio, buttner, have been considered deadwood by him. he just dint want to overhaul the whole squad as soon as he came in. he gave these players their chances and now will make his move. on the other hand, even some1 like SAF was not able to pull players like OSCAR, HAZARD, MOURA and they were taken from right under his nose.

i believe he is a decent man and a decent manager. to compare him to SAF is unfair. infact to compare any manager to SAF is unfair.

You just showed you don't even READ what I am writing so it's is extremely tedious even discussing it with you but I would like to point out if you can bother to actually read what I am saying instead of rambling on.

Ferguson has got some of the best players in the world and it was not a comparison it was fact, if Fergie was there Ronaldo would have been back at OT.

Moyes is NOT a decent manager, he has done nothing of merit. You don't know him personally so can't say he is a decent man, suing a kid for some rubbish in an autobiography isn't very decent to me??

Don't you think for one second he wasn't given the opportunity to splash the cash they were supposed to have bid 100m for Bale, he has all the money and everything at his disposal.

MOYES IS WHY NOONE CAME!!!!

God even Baines didn't want to go, he was probably happy to see the back of him.

I really dont care about him, I have family members who have supported Utd for a long time and are sad such a inadequate person was chosen to manage such a big club.

You like him good for you

Funny how you slag Torres a quality player but big up a pathetic manager .

Each to their own.

[didierforever 7,349]

Well, Manures had a tough fixture, I read. Fuck them & how tough was it ? All I read the champions here, there & suddenly the Clueless One comes on board & manures are not capable to beat anyone. These cunts just got lucky in 3 games.

What actually changed in their squad since last year ? Did anyone leave ? No, no one. They bought that hairy clown too.

manu had pool (a), city (a), chelsea(h) in their first 5 fixtures. tell me thats not tough.

their squad last year was as bad as this year's. at the start of the last season, no one gave them a chance to win the PL. it was SAF that made them a champion. united's real "class" of the squad can be understood by their performances in the CL where the shitty nature of their squad left them horribly exposed.

[didierforever 7,349]

You just showed you don't even READ what I am writing so it's is extremely tedious even discussing it with you but I would like to point out if you can bother to actually read what I am saying instead of rambling on.

Ferguson has got some of the best players in the world and it was not a comparison it was fact, if Fergie was there Ronaldo would have been back at OT.

Moyes is NOT a decent manager, he has done nothing of merit. You don't know him personally so can't say he is a decent man, suing a kid for some rubbish in an autobiography isn't very decent to me??

Don't you think for one second he wasn't given the opportunity to splash the cash they were supposed to have bid 100m for Bale, he has all the money and everything at his disposal.

MOYES IS WHY NOONE CAME!!!!

God even Baines didn't want to go, he was probably happy to see the back of him.

I really dont care about him, I have family members who have supported Utd for a long time and are sad such a inadequate person was chosen to manage such a big club.

You like him good for you

Funny how you slag Torres a quality player but big up a pathetic manager .

Each to their own.

i did bother reading your post and was simply confounded. so i am not gonna bother arguing with some1 with such blind hatred.

CR would have their? how do u know? was SAF able to get hazard, moura or oscar when he wanted to? NO.

he did have the oppurtunity to spend but he decided to give the PL winning squad the benefit of doubt to prove themselves.

suprisingly how baines was so happy but fellaini came in. so dont think u make any sense there.

you hate him, good for u.

torres is a very quality player, something which is very contradictory to what i have seen for the last 3 years.

[Tomo 21,751]

precisely. SAF was there for years. yet he dint win anything for his first 4 years but people are already ridiculing moyes after 4 months.

Ferguson inherited a poisonous squad with an alcohol culture (or something along them lines), Moyes has inherited a squad that walked the title last season, and lost out on GD the season before.

Ofcourse it's still early, but so far Moyes is showing all the traits that had me vocal in my view that we should never have considered him for the manager's gig at Stamford Bridge (basically most of the traits Roy showed at Liverpool).

[Tomo 21,751]

Moyes is NOT a decent manager, he has done nothing of merit.

Come on, he did a decent enough job at Everton, no it was not the work of miracle's people like to claim it was and no he wasn't and still isn't good enough to merit the United job, but he did a decent job at Everton overall, no more, no less.

[NishC300 1,865]

Remind me...

too bored to haha

[didierforever 7,349]

Ferguson inherited a poisonous squad with an alcohol culture (or something along them lines), Moyes has inherited a squad that walked the title last season, and lost out on GD the season before.

Ofcourse it's still early, but so far Moyes is showing all the traits that had me vocal in my view that we should never have considered him for the manager's gig at Stamford Bridge (basically most of the traits Roy showed at Liverpool).

i agree that moyes was not the best choice for a manager for a club like united/chelsea. but to judge him on this united squad inspite of united being 5th and just a point behind city is WRONG!!!!.

if i ask u this question - rate the PL squad on their strengths and class, united will come 4th after city, chelsea and arsenal (in that order), atleast for me.

[Tomo 21,751]

i agree that moyes was not the best choice for a manager for a club like united/chelsea. but to judge him on this united squad inspite of united being 5th and just a point behind city is WRONG!!!!.

if i ask u this question - rate the PL squad on their strengths and class, united will come 4th after city, chelsea and arsenal (in that order), atleast for me.

Top 4 for United is absolute minimum requirement (i still think they will get top 3, they won't lose the Fergie factor overnight) and tbh i still think that would be very underwhelming for Moyes.

Because they won the title so easily last season, Moyes should at the very least have them challenging for him to be able to say he/United have had a good season, i mean after Jose left we took a United side at the peak of their powers all the way under Avram Grant.

[Bosnian Blue 2,471]

Red Nose has done wonders with that squad, he's won the league with one decent midfielder (Carrick). Moyes is maybe underperforming but not as much as some try to point out. This United team needs a lot of strengthening to be even close to City and us.

[didierforever 7,349]

Top 4 for United is absolute minimum requirement (i still think they will get top 3, they won't lose the Fergie factor overnight) and tbh i still think that would be very underwhelming for Moyes.

Because they won the title so easily last season, Moyes should at the very least have them challenging for him to be able to say he/United have had a good season, i mean after Jose left we took a United side at the peak of their powers all the way under Avram Grant.

we had a squad of DD, sheva, lamps, JT, make etc all in their prime. for united except for rvp and rooney, who can u say is in their prime or even close to the squad we had at that point of time.

as for united, i have no doubts that they ll make top 4. people are underestimating them which is not good.

[Beirut_Blues 306]

I luv how a number of ppl are stating that the united team is not close to city or us.. and ignoring the fact that arsenal r over a game ahead of the pack..

Or just hoping they bottle it as usual...

[The_Flash 1,144]

i did bother reading your post and was simply confounded. so i am not gonna bother arguing with some1 with such blind hatred.

CR would have their? how do u know? was SAF able to get hazard, moura or oscar when he wanted to? NO.

he did have the oppurtunity to spend but he decided to give the PL winning squad the benefit of doubt to prove themselves.

suprisingly how baines was so happy but fellaini came in. so dont think u make any sense there.

you hate him, good for u.

torres is a very quality player, something which is very contradictory to what i have seen for the last 3 years.

Why did you just repeat the same thing? Who was talking about Hazard etc??? NOONE!

I'm not judging him on Utd how can anyone? He inherited a championship winning team.

No he didn't decide to go with the current squad, god how can you be so clueless?

HE. COULDNT GET ANYONE!!!

Even if he could he will have to pay way over the odds like with Fellani .

I don't hate him but I find your LOVE for him almost comical.

There was a fairly well known rumour that he had met with representatives and we're discussing many lucrative sponsorship deals to help pay his fee.

All that talk of how unhappy he was at Madrid then Fergie and David Gill goes and suddenly Real up his pay and he is staying and so happy. I believe it would have been different.

And as you said 'the PL winning team, what the. **** did THEY need to prove to him??? Lol.