Wayne Rooney

[bushman 2,043]

The shrek is still a very good player. Certainly, better than Ferda or BA, I feel.

If he can play as a striker, he could score 25 goals easily. Ferda playing a bit wider, creates chances, the shrek is relentless in his drive on the net. However, I doubt manures would let him go anyways.

[Ryan Fong 2,776]

I'm tired of debating myself about Rooney in Blue, pros and cons he certainly has it all, if he actually joins us, he would either be turned out to be a legend like Drogba or to sulk like Torres, no one can predict that really.

I say fuck it, at the end of the day it's not my money, as far as it doesn't affect us pursuing Falcao/Cavani/Lewand, just bloody sign him. With the high possibility of Jose in helm, Rooney's attitude problems could be taken care of or even be eliminated, again who knows. In Mourinho we trust.

My gut feeling is that Rooney's character is quite similar to Drogba's, I can't explain why, just my instinct.

[The only place to be 11,313]

If that is the case, then why would United even want to sell him? The fact is, great and consistent performances from Rooney has too few and far between in the past 3 years. He may have scored goals here and there but his form otherwise have been appalling for someone of his supposed quality.

100 goals in 4 years getting inconsistent playing time in a forward role isn't quite what I'd call 'here and there', but clearly something just isn't right at United. He's been there for 9 years, relationships develop wrinkles over that time. I think he's lost a bit of enthusiasm there and Van Persie's signing probably didn't help. He's still been effective in a deeper role.

And more importantly, he has an attitude problem. Seem to throw tantrums around when things aren't going his way. Never seem to take care of his own fitness during off season and always come back into new season looking rather unfit. If even Ferguson has had problems dealing with him, why would we want Rooney here?

He some issues. Using blanker statements like 'he has an attitude problem' is ridiculous. When he was asked to play in wide roles or deep roles he didn't complain. When someone like Jose says he'd like to coach Rooney specifically because of his mentality, I think you're really barking up the wrong tree.

After 2 years of frustrations with Torres, think we could do with getting a ST who is on the up, not down like Rooney IMO, consistently performs and scores goals for us. And also, a ST that doesn't have any deficiencies like Torres or one that won't attract controversies like Rooney would. Buying him would be a major risk.

Buying any striker is a major risk. The upside is huge, but it's also a gamble. But again I defer to Mourinho's view on him - he's a truly world-class player and if motivated properly, I think he'll lead us to the title next season.

He isn't the only striker that can lead us to trophies, but I think he's definitely got to be considered.

exactly he just isnt consistent anymore! he had a great game against City in December scoring 2 goals but since then there are not many other stand out games from him if any.

12 goals and 11 assists in 29 appearances is good isn't it?

[Pacquiao 1,834]

12 goals and 11 assists in 29 appearances is good isn't it?

not when the majority of goals were against pub teams!

he had 1 good game against City and scored a lucky free-kick against us! the rest were against pub teams!

[Hysteria 159]

I dont mind if we sign him, he would add some value on our attack but my principal concern is: still hungry for trophies?

[Pizy 18,538]

Rooney in, Lukaku recalled, Torres out. Sorted up front with Roo/Lukaku/Ba.

We can then use the money saved by not buying Falcao/Cavani and invest in central midfield and defense.

[The only place to be 11,313]

not when the majority of goals were against pub teams!

he had 1 good game against City and scored a lucky free-kick against us! the rest were against pub teams!

Sorry...I made a mistake. Those were Drogba's stats in 2005-06.

Rooney's were 27 apps, 12 goals and 10 assists playing in a second striker role in more games than as a main striker.

Clearly Drogba was in decline.....and there are no pub teams in the Premier League. To suggest there are is at best disrespectful and at worse nonsensical.

[The Skipper 20,593]

Rooney in, Lukaku recalled, Torres out. Sorted up front with Roo/Lukaku/Ba.

We can then use the money saved by not buying Falcao/Cavani and invest in central midfield and defense.

I'd like to see this - simply because Rooney can play out wide or behind the striker if we ask him to. The permutations you can have with that strike force is great. If we can get Rooney for a decent price I'm all in for it - the cons that people have brought up on here really don't outweigh his pros.

People are just scared because of what we've experienced with Torres, which is fair enough, but I think Rooney is a different type of player. I think Rooney would be a beast under Mourinho.

[Ryan Fong 2,776]

I really don't care about his personal life and the fact that he is a hot head off the pitch as far as he gives it all on the pitch, which he did every time I saw him played.

I don't care he has handed in TR twice neither, if he does that to us in the future he can fuck right off with no hard feelings at least we have benefit from his good service for 3,4 years.

[Pacquiao 1,834]

Sorry...I made a mistake. Those were Drogba's stats in 2005-06.

Rooney's were 27 apps, 12 goals and 10 assists playing in a second striker role in more games than as a main striker.

Clearly Drogba was in decline.....and there are no pub teams in the Premier League. To suggest there are is at best disrespectful and at worse nonsensical.

they are pretty much pub teams when they play against united! basically every small team in the PL are scared of united and make things so easy for them! and most of Rooneys goals were scored at Old trafford as well where teams make it even more easier for them! I guarantee if you played the likes of Dempsey or Michu ect in place of Rooney they would have similar stats as Rooney has got at Old Trafford this season.

oh yeah and when it comes to Torres they are all pub teams but when it comes to Rooney there are no pub teams in the PL.

[The Skipper 20,593]

oh yeah and when it comes to Torres they are all pub teams but when it comes to Rooney there are no pub teams in the PL.

Torres has 7 PL goals in 28 starts whilst playing as the main striker. Rooney has 12, in 22 starts, whilst playing on the left, right, behind the striker and sometimes even at CM. Go figure.

[Pacquiao 1,834]

Torres has 7 PL goals in 28 starts whilst playing as the main striker. Rooney has 12, in 22 starts, whilst playing on the left, right, behind the striker and sometimes even at CM. Go figure.

so? whats your point? is anyone comparing Torres ability to Rooney?

[The Skipper 20,593]

so? whats your point? is anyone comparing Torres ability to Rooney?

You were the one that brought Torres into it...

[Leif 6,006]

is anyone comparing Torres ability to Rooney?

oh yeah and when it comes to Torres they are all pub teams but when it comes to Rooney there are no pub teams in the PL.

[Jase 43,479]

He some issues. Using blanker statements like 'he has an attitude problem' is ridiculous. When he was asked to play in wide roles or deep roles he didn't complain. When someone like Jose says he'd like to coach Rooney specifically because of his mentality, I think you're really barking up the wrong tree.

Ridiculous? Have heard and read many United fans saying the same and it's been fairly obvious to many. And how you know he doesn't complain? He might not have done it in the public for fear of Fergie but even the latter himself said Rooney wants to leave because he is unhappy of being taken off a few times this season, meaning he has complained behind doors. And what about always seem to come back for pre-season looking unfit and struggling early on in the season for the past few years? That's not an attitude problem?!

As for what Mourinho said about Rooney, so just because he said that then we are not allowed to disagree with him?!

Buying any striker is a major risk. The upside is huge, but it's also a gamble. But again I defer to Mourinho's view on him - he's a truly world-class player and if motivated properly, I think he'll lead us to the title next season.

Buying any player is basically a risk BUT when you do that, you basically look at which player(s) can give you the most. You look at their current state, characteristics, potential etc and looking at Rooney right now as well as his form in the past 3 years, it will be a major risk of a move and it may well end up like Torres here. And not to mention, Rooney will command a massive wages here, which would be ridiculous for us to pay him so much!

[Pacquiao 1,834]

again please show where i compared Torres ability to Rooney?

[Pacquiao 1,834]

You were the one that brought Torres into it...

yeah i was making the point that people on here are overrating Rooney with his stats this season, if i say Torres has 21 goals this season you will say yeah he has played like 60 games and almost all his goals were against pub teams, but with Rooney he also has score almost all his goals against 'pub teams' but because its Rooney that doesn't matter apparently.

[The Skipper 20,593]

yeah i was making the point that people on here are overrating Rooney with his stats this season, if i say Torres has 21 goals this season you will say yeah he has played like 60 games and almost all his goals were against pub teams, but with Rooney he also has score almost all his goals against 'pub teams' but because its Rooney that doesn't matter apparently.

Fair enough, but I don't think it's fair to directly compare Rooney and Torres' stats simply because Rooney hasn't played as the main striker this season as Torres has.