Pizy 18,994 Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 United and Mourinho know they now have no shot at the title but are pushing hard for Sanchez so they can make a real run at the CL which they do have a good chance of advancing far in. Actual ambition. It's what we should be doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,539 Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 Thata it.. We need to be looking at strengthening for top 4 as well cause that can easily slip away way we're going Ain't gana happen... Elsewhere he goes.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wes 7,212 Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,994 Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 He does indeed give the ball away a shit load. But that's what happens when he was playing in a soft Arsenal side. He had to try to do it all himself most of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 17 minutes ago, Pizy said: He does indeed give the ball away a shit load. But that's what happens when he was playing in a soft Arsenal side. He had to try to do it all himself most of the time. You could say the same about Hazard but does he get dispossessed as much as Sanchez? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,994 Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 6 minutes ago, Jason said: You could say the same about Hazard but does he get dispossessed as much as Sanchez? Sanchez is way more aggressive around the box than Eden is, tbf. Also take more risks which is why I think Hazard is the better player. He's smarter with the ball. While Hazard's first instinct is to facilitate for his teammates, Sanchez's has always been to be as forceful as possible and to score. He often dribbles in to blind alleys and loses the ball trying to do too much. Hate to say it, but I think Sanchez will be far more effective and a much better fit for Mourinho's style than he would be at City. He wouldn't have improved City in any noticeable way other than just a bit more depth. I think he dramatically improves United. Perfect Mourinho player. Hard working, runs himself into the ground, basically a warrior on the pitch. The same traits that would make him perfect for Conte as well. Oh well. Not overly devastated only because he's 30 and probably won't be in Manchester long. I've been saying all along that Mahrez is who I really want. He is a player I'd absolutely dread seeing at a rival. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,889 Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 On 12/01/2018 at 7:20 PM, Tomo said: Tbhi can sympathize with him. He probably got fed bullshit by Wenger about how they were looking at breaking into the elite and his three full season's so far they haven't sniffed the title and got knocked out of the CL at the last 16 stage, once by Monaco and twice embarrassingly. He has basically been duped into wasting his prime years and for his actions of late im happy to give the benefit of the doubt was him lashing out in realization of that. That is still no excuse. Regardless of who Arsenal sign, where they finish where they have been trying to finish etc, just an excuse. The same with Chelsea fans who say Hazard has to leave to play with players of his own quality/level or to compete for the Ballon D'Or... and the amount of times I've seen it this season is scary. He chose to sign for Arsenal, Hazard chose to sign for Chelsea... its not like they were coerced, both undoubtedly knew what they were getting into as opposed to signing for a better team like a Barca or Real where almost every player in the starting 11 and bench is elite level (Hazard who had every club in Europe after him) or staying where they were, at a team that was winning everything more or less in previous years (Sanchez at Barca, although he didnt play as often that last season). Just a poor excuse to justify an incredibly poor attitude, Sanchez this season for definite has been underwhelming in terms of performance and attitude, the attitude in particular for me is the worst part, it is incredibly unprofessional, these guys are making mega money, they could at least be professional - look at Coutinho, didn't want to be at Liverpool but he busted his arse for them and eventually got his move, this should be the same for everybody in that situation. Also re the whole Hazard thing (I know you didnt bring it up in your post but just a general observation from the forum/social media for the last good while): why would Chelsea fans even say shit like that? Just incredibly daft and would consider they have their heads examined. Saying that, if Sanchez is available for 30-35m and reasonable wages, sign him up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStorm1003 539 Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 I can't understand why we just don't seem to be pushing for him...A shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eidur the Spider 4,515 Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 I'm hoping for a last minute push but I doubt it. Best we can hope for is a token bid like we did for Lukaku just to make it look like we tried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arlen Correa 161 Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 20 hours ago, the wes said: Players who actually try make things happen tend to be dispossessed more times, if they arent named Messi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,188 Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 1 hour ago, Eidur the Spider said: I'm hoping for a last minute push but I doubt it. Best we can hope for is a token bid like we did for Lukaku just to make it look like we tried. It's all hands to the pump for Andy Carroll now mate, no time to be messing about with Sanchez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,531 Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 20 hours ago, Pizy said: Sanchez's has always been to be as forceful as possible and to score. But isn't that what a real striker is supposed to do? Score at all costs. Of course its not always going to work but as long as theres a higher percentage of ones thay do, I wish Edens came oit more often cause we know hes got it in him. The goal V Arseholes was simply amazing. Where the fuck does that Eden hide? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmin 2,484 Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 I feel so frustrated seeing United pushing for him and us not doing a thing. We've done business with Arsenal before, there should be some strings to be pulled. Why aren't we even trying? The guy is world class potential and we could have him for 30-35 I guess. How big can his wages be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,531 Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 2 minutes ago, Cosmin said: I feel so frustrated seeing United pushing for him and us not doing a thing. We've done business with Arsenal before, there should be some strings to be pulled. Why aren't we even trying? The guy is world class potential and we could have him for 30-35 I guess. How big can his wages be? Very high mate. MAYBE why we aren't in for him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,188 Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 reportedly 400k a week he wants, which is absolute mental. Our board are chasing Carroll and want a loan deal, do you think we are going to pay 400k a week and 30M? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,994 Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 Just saw an article from ESPN detailing why Sanchez does and does not make sense for us and honestly the cons are definitely true. Mainly the wages part. If Sanchez were to come in and command £350-400k a week why would Hazard ask for a penny less to stay? It would probably completely cripple our wage structure. That's got to be the sole stumbling block here. Whereas Mourinho and United are more than willing to work with slimey agents who want huge fees themselves (like they did with Pogba and Lukaku) and are willing to pay literally whatever it takes in wages. We simply can't compete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmin 2,484 Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 That says a lot about the club's ambitions, though. Why would Courtois and Hazard extend their contracts, under these circumstances? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,531 Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 Question ::::: Would the income from new endorsements,advertising.merchandise etc be enough to pay for the rise in his wages as well as be a big feather in our cap? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BMox81 193 Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 14 minutes ago, Cosmin said: That says a lot about the club's ambitions, though. Why would Courtois and Hazard extend their contracts, under these circumstances? Exactly this. I honestly never expected this after Munich. I thought we'd consolidate and push on from what we had achieved. Players should have been clammering to sign for us. But instead we've gone on this ultra conservative approach to transfers and we've regressed back to the point where we can't compete for the best players now. People should brace themselves for a Hazard-less Chelsea next season - him leaving is a very big possibility, and I don't blame him one bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,531 Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 2 minutes ago, Dingus said: Exactly this. I honestly never expected this after Munich. I thought we'd consolidate and push on from what we had achieved. Players should have been clammering to sign for us. But instead we've gone on this ultra conservative approach to transfers and we've regressed back to the point where we can't compete for the best players now. People should brace themselves for a Hazard-less Chelsea next season - him leaving is a very big possibility, and I don't blame him one bit. Eden would be out of here soon enough anyway just as soon as ZZ whistled. As for these players comin a clammering to join us we have never had that sort of magnetism I'n afraid. So we either dig deep and pay pver the odds as bribes or we buy Andy Caroll types. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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