La Liga Thread

[Zinedine Iniesco 172]

The players you listed earlier while linked by gutter press are still linked with your club. It's is hypocritical to discuss Modric while not discussing Silva even if the source is less reputable. If you puke over Silva than you most definitly should puke over Touré.

http://www.guardian....toure-barcelona

http://www.telegraph...ona-return.html

Wrong, silva is a pipe dream, i judge based on positions, the past, the future, there are many tangibles which one needs to bring up, so once again you are generalizing here and i give you a thumbs down, disappointing.

Regarding toure, anything can happen with him, he might still come here, barcelona will NEVER call him as they have no reason to. I can see him coming here happening.

[Spike 12,049]

Wrong, silva is a pipe dream, i judge based on positions, the past, the future, there are many tangibles which one needs to bring up, so once again you are generalizing here and i give you a thumbs down, disappointing.

Regarding toure, anything can happen with him, he might still come here, barcelona will NEVER call him as they have no reason to. I can see him coming here happening.

You are generalising with Touré saying that "barcelona will never call him as they have no reason to" [sic]. Sure the Barça Midfield is stacked at the moment and there is no place for him, but you are making wild assumptions and generalising by stating he wouldn't return. Touré is also a pipe dream and you fool yourself with grandiose delusion.

I give you two thumbs down and shortly afterhand two digitus medius up.

[Zinedine Iniesco 172]

You are generalising with Touré saying that "barcelona will never call him as they have no reason to" [sic]. Sure the Barça Midfield is stacked at the moment and there is no place for him, but you are making wild assumptions and generalising by stating he wouldn't return. Touré is also a pipe dream and you fool yourself with grandiose delusion.

I give you two thumbs down and shortly afterhand two digitus medius up.

Not generalizing about toure at all, stating a valid conclusion. the guy is almost 30 and there is no room, and that is also one of the reasons im not SOO enthusiastic about him coming here for 2-3 years and then goodbye, but for the time being he could prove well, and i see nothing TOO concrete from which i can call his transfer here a pipe dream, Let him come out and say no eh?

You got nothing there again bud.

I give you an F, back to pre-school for you.

[Spike 12,049]

Not generalizing about toure at all, stating a valid conclusion. the guy is almost 30 and there is no room, and that is also one of the reasons im not SOO enthusiastic about him coming here for 2-3 years and then goodbye, but for the time being he could prove well, and i see nothing TOO concrete from which i can call his transfer here a pipe dream, Let him come out and say no eh?

You got nothing there again bud.

I give you an F, back to pre-school for you.

You lack sufficient proof. I have supplied statments coming directly from the man himself that he would love to play for Barç again. Also, the last time I checked Real Madrid's Midfield was also stacked.

Alonso

Sahin

Granero

Diarra

Khedira

All fighting for the double pivot role. There is 2.5 players for each of the two midfield positions.

Xavi

Iniesta (also plays in the forward positions)

Busquets (also plays at CB)

Thiago

Mascherano (also plays at CB)

Fabregas (also plays in the Forward positions)

Keita

All fighting for a three midfield places. There is 2.333 players for each of three midfield positions.

[Zinedine Iniesco 172]

You lack sufficient proof. I have supplied statments coming directly from the man himself that he would love to play for Barç again. Also, the last time I checked Real Madrid's Midfield was also stacked.

Alonso

Sahin

Granero

Diarra

Khedira

All fighting for the double pivot role. There is 2.5 players for each of the two midfield positions.

Xavi

Iniesta (also plays in the forward positions)

Busquets (also plays at CB)

Thiago

Mascherano (also plays at CB)

Fabregas (also plays in the Forward positions)

Keita

All fighting for a three midfield places. There is 2.333 players for each of three midfield positions.

Nah you are being narrow minded now.

It truly is impossible due to the quality of barca's midfield. Yaya toure could be used if they NEEDED of his service but they dont at the moment, and even if they do in the next couple of years he would be 31 or so and there would probably be better options, and anyways as long as busquets is there toure would always be a squad player, warming the bench.

While in madrid we have no one like him, he would bench khedira, and lass is practically out already. Granero, sahin, alonso are different and needed.

Apples and Oranges.

Sigh..you wont beat me so just go eat a sandwich, you just keep replying in an attempt to prove me wrong, when im not because i know what im talking about, and you know that,you are trying to beat my will, and thats why you keep replying even though you said youd ignore me in the other thread. Its getting late here, and id rather sleep than keep going in circles with you.

Cheerio.

Edit: if you really are interested in engaging in leveled discussion for the plain enrichment of knowledge, mutual at that, then im open, but you are trying to beat me with faulty and ill logic and intentions and you cant, thats all.

[Zinedine Iniesco 172]

By the way capra, capriccioso, whatever your name is ( i cant recall how exactly to spell it), i respect the fact that you came up to me in a 50-60 percent respectable way, with some ok points but in the end faulty logic, atleast you didnt implode like others, you just stopped for your own reasons.

Cheers.

Edit: and about that article on swiss ramble, it has things that i had a basic understanding of already. Real Madrid is top class when it comes to revenue, profit, ffp, ability to pay debt, future, etc.

The tv deals and how la liga is dieing is unfortunate for those who care but all i care about in that league is madrid, and as long as we dominate in style, all the others in la liga can sort of burn for all that i care.

To finalize ramires, a player with his tools but at a higher caliber would be good for mourinho, he likes players that can give good to his team, but ramires doesnt impress me for the most part, and i doubt he impresses mourinho, and even if he does, its irrelevent.

[Spike 12,049]

I am growing weary of your narcissism. You have not at any stage shown proof or souces to back up any of your statments. Not once have you debunked my arguements, you just use the logical fallacy of ad hominem i.e. your arguement is terrible and mine is better. You my friend are most immature person I have ever had the displeasure of arguing.

"For the record when you post something, post it correctly, dont edit it, or else that seems like you are unsure about what you are writing and it may leave my response lacking as you keep adding to it."

If I'm not mistaken you edited your previous posts. You either hold double standards or are a hypocrite.

Edit: and about that article on swiss ramble, it has things that i had a basic understanding of already. Real Madrid is top class when it comes to revenue, profit, ffp, ability to pay debt, future, etc.

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Edit: if you really are interested in engaging in leveled discussion for the plain enrichment of knowledge, mutual at that, then im open, but you are trying to beat me with faulty and ill logic and intentions and you cant, thats all.

I shall quote the "master of debate" [sic]:

You got nothing there again bud.

I give you an F, back to pre-school for you.

I am finished with you. I have nothing more to say you. I wipe this disgusting mess from my hands. You are not worth my time.

[Zinedine Iniesco 172]

You have not understood the fact in hand under the correct context.(I was adding tidbits of info, he was reconstructing his ideas and making a mess out of it, you see things differently and thats ok as i dont give a dam). Your brain is probably incapable of doing so, so same difference.

I have debunked everything possible and proved my self right every time, you have been unable to beat me, and just cant help your self, try to reach my heights by beating me in any argument.

Your arguments, such as many that i have seen before in this forum and many others, and in real life, well basically everywhere are malinformed, you know what...they are simply a joke.

You and so many others FAILED to counter my arguments, i debunked yours without even stating mine in many cases. I dominated the many of you today, and i hope this serves a lesson on you on how to deal with real men with real brains.

Deal with it, now run away child.

[Zinedine Iniesco 172]

For all that read this and care ...

I have no problem with reading other people's opinions for the most part but when narrow minded, shallow, foolish people decide to say things either to me or in general, in EITHER reply form, a 1st statement form, i feel free to bring down anything i find ridiculous with irrefutable ownage. I do so in a nice logical statement first, but i turn my more aggressive tone when you decide to do so yourself.

The example has been clear in this forum as i can count with my great fingers how many people have gotten butthurt and decided to shun me, just to come back and fail to bring me down. They all gave up, the pattern was simple, after they lose the ability to talk coherently about relevant topics, they tried to attack my relative frame of thinking in various ways, but just failed.

My intention is never to troll, as i dont think i have ever done so, but if i see something stupid i always try to correct it, and when i do, and as i did today, countless of users reacted in childish manners.

I've done nothing wrong, look in the mirrors.

Cheers.

[capriccioso 2,545]

Malinformed is not a word. Just thought I'd cut the tension

[capriccioso 2,545]

Nah you are being narrow minded now.

It truly is impossible due to the quality of barca's midfield. Yaya toure could be used if they NEEDED of his service but they dont at the moment, and even if they do in the next couple of years he would be 31 or so and there would probably be better options, and anyways as long as busquets is there toure would always be a squad player, warming the bench.

While in madrid we have no one like him, he would bench khedira, and lass is practically out already. Granero, sahin, alonso are different and needed.

Apples and Oranges.

Sigh..you wont beat me so just go eat a sandwich, you just keep replying in an attempt to prove me wrong, when im not because i know what im talking about, and you know that,you are trying to beat my will, and thats why you keep replying even though you said youd ignore me in the other thread. Its getting late here, and id rather sleep than keep going in circles with you.

Cheerio.

Edit: if you really are interested in engaging in leveled discussion for the plain enrichment of knowledge, mutual at that, then im open, but you are trying to beat me with faulty and ill logic and intentions and you cant, thats all.

Isn't Keita going to be sold soon?

[Zinedine Iniesco 172]

@ cap, i dont give a rabbits tail if its not a "word", it is if i make it one, and everyone here understands it so take it.

Keita might leave but im not sure. Irrelevent towards the toure thingy though.

Barca fans dislike keita to a certain degree i believe.

[capriccioso 2,545]

Keita isn't bad, but he's no Toure. It's all academic though, Toure plays for Man City and they don't sell anyone if they need them. Real and Barca can have a bidding war but no matter what sum they fax in to Etihad Stadium, I think the Sheikh will just laugh it off.

[Zinedine Iniesco 172]

Keita isn't bad, but he's no Toure. It's all academic though, Toure plays for Man City and they don't sell anyone if they need them. Real and Barca can have a bidding war but no matter what sum they fax in to Etihad Stadium, I think the Sheikh will just laugh it off.

Quite possible indeed.

[capriccioso 2,545]

If Madrid/Barcelona are after a Man City player they could do well to get Tevez (if he's still wanting to leave) or Adebayor. Adebayor could provide a good Plan B for Barcelona.

[Zinedine Iniesco 172]

No thats a pipe dream. None needs tevez, hes a nutcase.

We have benema and higuain.

Barca dont need another idiot in their team.

Adebayor? nope

[TacticalBlues 2,817]

No thats a pipe dream. None needs tevez, hes a nutcase.

We have benema and higuain.

Barca dont need another idiot in their team.

Adebayor? nope

On regards to strikers what happened to Morata and Joselu? On the latter I heard some rumors about Arsenal and West Ham. West Ham are going for some crazy players in Castaignos, Elia and maybe even Joselu! I refuse to believe that Allardyce is the brains behind those moves

You'll also have Canales as a midfielding option when he returns in 2013, not to mention a certain Zidane + many others who are being developed. I wonder how many of these youngsters will make it? They have the talent but with the consistently world-class names making up the Madrid squad the chances always seem slim.

[Zinedine Iniesco 172]

On regards to strikers what happened to Morata and Joselu? On the latter I heard some rumors about Arsenal and West Ham. West Ham are going for some crazy players in Castaignos, Elia and maybe even Joselu! I refuse to believe that Allardyce is the brains behind those moves

You'll also have Canales as a midfielding option when he returns in 2013, not to mention a certain Zidane + many others who are being developed. I wonder how many of these youngsters will make it? They have the talent but with the consistently world-class names making up the Madrid squad the chances always seem slim.

Many of our young castilla talent has to be loaned out, but right now we are putting more emphasis in our castilla than we have in a long time.

Our current castilla generation is one of the most promising, maybe ever. Sarabia has been loaned out to getafe, ( hasnt done so well), jese rodriguez is one of the big names and i think he should get loaned out, and then brought here again eventually.

Out of all our current talent i think

Sarabia

Morata

Jese

Carvajal have the biggest chances of success.

Our castila is now in seguna division and thats great for us. Regarding canales, i dont think hes coming back, mourinho has shown no interest in him, and canales has stated how he would gladly stay in valencia if needed.

Joselu's prive was upgraded to 10 million by the club, they dont want him to leave, so hes gonna stay.

Morata might get 1st team spot this year, we will see.

Crvajal might end up being real madrid's next great rightback.

[TacticalBlues 2,817]

Many of our young castilla talent has to be loaned out, but right now we are putting more emphasis in our castilla than we have in a long time.

Our current castilla generation is one of the most promising, maybe ever. Sarabia has been loaned out to getafe, ( hasnt done so well), jese rodriguez is one of the big names and i think he should get loaned out, and then brought here again eventually.

Out of all our current talent i think

Sarabia

Morata

Jese

Carvajal have the biggest chances of success.

Our castila is now in seguna division and thats great for us. Regarding canales, i dont think hes coming back, mourinho has shown no interest in him, and canales has stated how he would gladly stay in valencia if needed.

Joselu's prive was upgraded to 10 million by the club, they dont want him to leave, so hes gonna stay.

Morata might get 1st team spot this year, we will see.

Crvajal might end up being real madrid's next great rightback.

Good to know, Jese was one of the extras in your UCL squad that's why I was shocked he had the 1 app. Wasn't Sarabia also sold to Getafe for like a million but with a buy back clause? On defenders I would also like to see Varane play more and I'm certain he will. He was a really good buy and has a very, very bright future.

[Zinedine Iniesco 172]

Good to know, Jese was one of the extras in your UCL squad that's why I was shocked he had the 1 app. Wasn't Sarabia also sold to Getafe for like a million but with a buy back clause? On defenders I would also like to see Varane play more and I'm certain he will. He was a really good buy and has a very, very bright future.

Thanks for the compliments on the players, i really appreciate your nice dialogue :blue scalf:

Varane has a great future, some pepe haters want him to start over pepe and with good reason

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaGbydDe4VM

Could be an all time great ( ya i know its brash ) but hes 19 and shows so much godliness

carvajal and morata i think will be given a substantial amount of first team matches this season. They are both still with us.

Sarabia is in getafe yes, but he should come back for a season in segunda, or just gtfo getafe.