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How the fuck did I miss this, incredible production from RZA, dope track.. R.I.P ODB.

Exactly! Even I did, was kicking myself when I found out it's quite old. RZA shared the links yesterday for ODB's birthday. Incredible track though, production & Justin was perfect.

Did ODB ever have a mental condition? Something seemed off.

Nah, he was just always popping pills and drinking a lot. It made him who he was, and ironically, people said he wasn't the same when he was sober. A legend forever, Wu-Tang Forever.

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Nah, he was just always popping pills and drinking a lot. It made him who he was, and ironically, people said he wasn't the same when he was sober. A legend forever, Wu-Tang Forever.

It's said that he could have had one. But idk, he was on the crack pipe a lot. So who knows.

IMO, the best Wu rappers are in this order: GZA, Ghostface, Method Man, Inspectah Deck, ODB, Raekwon (always hated his rapping style), RZA, Masta Killa, U-God

RZA is on another level when it comes to producing, though.

GZA hands down is the most taleneted Wu-Tang emcee. Ghostface is criminally underrated. ODB was slightly overrated and had a pretty weak solo career.

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It's said that he could have had one. But idk, he was on the crack pipe a lot. So who knows.

IMO, the best Wu rappers are in this order: GZA, Ghostface, Method Man, Inspectah Deck, ODB, Raekwon (always hated his rapping style), RZA, Masta Killa, U-God

RZA is on another level when it comes to producing, though.

GZA hands down is the most taleneted Wu-Tang emcee. Ghostface is criminally underrated. ODB was slightly overrated and had a pretty weak solo career.

Interesting choices there. Definitely RZA's production was the catalyst in the Wu-Tang success.

My favourite Wu-Tang rappers, in order: Ghostface, Raekwon, GZA, Meth, RZA, Deck, Killa, ODB & U-God.

The Brand of Wu-Tang I can't get over. A big supergroup signed to one deal, but separately signed to others. RZA was truly a genius of hip-hop.

Anyone get the feeling Odd Future are trying similar?

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Grammy Awards

Album of the Year

21— Adele

Wasting Light— Foo Fighters

Born This Way— Lady Gaga

Doo-Wops & Hooligans — Bruno Mars

Loud — Rihanna

Best New Artist

The Band Perry

Bon Iver

J. Cole

Nicki Minaj

Skrillex

Song of the Year

"All Of The Lights" — Jeff Bhasker, Malik Jones, Warren Trotter & Kanye West, songwriters (Kanye West, Rihanna, Kid Cudi & Fergie)

"The Cave" — Ted Dwane, Ben Lovett, Marcus Mumford & Country Winston, songwriters (Mumford & Sons)

"Grenade" — Brody Brown, Claude Kelly, Philip Lawrence, Ari Levine, Bruno Mars & Andrew Wyatt, songwriters (Bruno Mars)

"Holocene" — Justin Vernon, songwriter (Bon Iver)

"Rolling In The Deep" — Adele Adkins & Paul Epworth, songwriters (Adele)

Best Rap Album

Watch The Throne — Jay-Z & Kanye West

Tha Carter IV — Lil Wayne

Lasers — Lupe Fiasco

Pink Friday — Nicki Minaj

My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy — Kanye West

Best Rap/Sung Collaboration

"Party" — Beyoncé & André 3000

"I'm On One" — DJ Khaled, Drake, Rick Ross & Lil Wayne

"I Need A Doctor" — Dr. Dre, Eminem & Skylar Grey

"What's My Name?" — Rihanna & Drake

"Motivation" — Kelly Rowland & Lil Wayne

"All Of The Lights" — Kanye West, Rihanna, Kid Cudi & Fergie

Best Rap Performance

"Look At Me Now" — Chris Brown, Lil Wayne & Busta Rhymes

"Otis" — Jay-Z & Kanye West

"The Show Goes On" — Lupe Fiasco

"Moment 4 Life" — Nicki Minaj & Drake

"Black And Yellow" — Wiz Khalifa

How Kanye's been snubbed from 'Album of the Year' is beyond belief. I see the stupidity of the Grammy's continues :doh:

This will probably hurt Kanye too. After all he did once say..

“I pinpoint the Grammys and the VMAs because they have to take responsibility, because they mean something to us. Little kids, 6 years [old], that are singing in front of the mirror. They’re also thinking about their Grammy speech.”
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How Kanye's been snubbed from 'Album of the Year' is beyond belief. I see the stupidity of the Grammy's continues :doh:

This will probably hurt Kanye too. After all he did once say..

“I pinpoint the Grammys and the VMAs because they have to take responsibility, because they mean something to us. Little kids, 6 years [old], that are singing in front of the mirror. They’re also thinking about their Grammy speech.”

It's unfair to categorize MBDTF as a 'rap album' anyway, it's a universal masterpiece.

The foo fighters album.. now that should be categorised as 'rock', why do they get away with it?

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21— Adele

Wasting Light— Foo Fighters

Born This Way— Lady Gaga

Doo-Wops & Hooligans — Bruno Mars

Loud — Rihanna

The Band Perry

Bon Iver

J. Cole

Nicki Minaj

Skrillex

"All Of The Lights" — Jeff Bhasker, Malik Jones, Warren Trotter & Kanye West, songwriters (Kanye West, Rihanna, Kid Cudi & Fergie)

"The Cave" — Ted Dwane, Ben Lovett, Marcus Mumford & Country Winston, songwriters (Mumford & Sons)

"Grenade" — Brody Brown, Claude Kelly, Philip Lawrence, Ari Levine, Bruno Mars & Andrew Wyatt, songwriters (Bruno Mars)

"Holocene" — Justin Vernon, songwriter (Bon Iver)

"Rolling In The Deep" — Adele Adkins & Paul Epworth, songwriters

"Party" — Beyoncé & André 3000

"I'm On One" — DJ Khaled, Drake, Rick Ross & Lil Wayne

"I Need A Doctor" — Dr. Dre, Eminem & Skylar Grey

"What's My Name?" — Rihanna & Drake

"Motivation" — Kelly Rowland & Lil Wayne

"All Of The Lights" — Kanye West, Rihanna, Kid Cudi & Fergie

"Look At Me Now" — Chris Brown, Lil Wayne & Busta Rhymes

"Otis" — Jay-Z & Kanye West

"The Show Goes On" — Lupe Fiasco

"Moment 4 Life" — Nicki Minaj & Drake

"Black And Yellow" — Wiz Khalifa

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Haven't stopped listening to this since the day it came out. My respect for this guy has never been so high, truly incredible.

Hey.. didnt know there was a thread on HipHop here im a massive HipHop fan. Been following Frank since his early days when he went by the name Frantik Frank hes a monster!

You heard Klashnekoffs new track?

^ link as i cant seem to put the video on here! -_-

Oh wait it did post the vid haha My Bad!

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