Liquidator 5,176 Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 This 'stupidity' is a fallacy. Yea, I don't like it, but do I hate it? Not really. Yeah £9,000 is a major leap, but if it makes you a millionaire years after.. It's a small price in comparison It clearly doesn't with the unemployment levels for graduates in this country. You could also do a degree in Holland or Denmark for example and become a millionaire like you said but not end up leaving uni with debts in excess of £30 000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 Does WHS still have the cool list anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 It clearly doesn't with the unemployment levels for graduates in this country. You could also do a degree in Holland or Denmark for example and become a millionaire like you said but not end up leaving uni with debts in excess of £30 000I think it also depends on your degree though. For example, I'm going to study Law in September. If I want to continue living in England (which I do) and practice Law then I have no choice but to study here. I'm okay with that. I don't pay back until I'm earning over £21,000. I'll never even see that money because it's automatically deducted at a fixed % of income. The same applies for the medical based degrees. Dentistry & Medicine must be practiced here if people want to continue living here. As I said, it's not ideal, but I don't think it should encourage people to go abroad. UK Universities are still among the top in the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 Does WHS still have the cool list anyone? Yeah. You didn't make the cut. We Hate Scouse and OneMoSalah 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 Yeah. You didn't make the cut.Jesus. I'm heart broken. I'm like so close to the edge now...... damn you Spike, ruining my day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,941 Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 Does WHS still have the cool list anyone? That cool list didn't last long, it was hard to look past my name being the cool mufucka that I am. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backstreet09 499 Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 That cool list didn't last long, it was hard to look past my name being the cool mufucka that I am. DDA and OneMoSalah 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 Me not paying for University puts a smile on my face everytime I read Europeans/Americans talking... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,941 Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 That cool list didn't last long, it was hard to look past my name being the cool mufucka that I am.Actually laughed at this. You wanker! Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backstreet09 499 Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 (edited) Actually laughed at this. You wanker! LolHow you doing cool muthafucka P.S Out of likes again Edited April 10, 2013 by Backstreet09 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquidator 5,176 Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 I think it also depends on your degree though. For example, I'm going to study Law in September. If I want to continue living in England (which I do) and practice Law then I have no choice but to study here. I'm okay with that. I don't pay back until I'm earning over £21,000. I'll never even see that money because it's automatically deducted at a fixed % of income. The same applies for the medical based degrees. Dentistry & Medicine must be practiced here if people want to continue living here. As I said, it's not ideal, but I don't think it should encourage people to go abroad. UK Universities are still among the top in the world.It is among the best in the world but it was before fees went up to 9000 per year. It isn't fair for people to have to pay that. The government should pay more attention to what the country needs to. So many people are going into journalism and media based degrees at university but we have a shortage of technical engineers for example, meaning we have to pay extra to get them from other countries. In Germany there is a financial incentive to study subjects where there is a shortage. Our government should pay more attention to shortages in certain industries and offer incentives to students. It would help to reduce graduate unemployment because there would be a wider range of graduates not all applying for the same type of jobAlso that's what is wrong with the fees. There are certain degrees like law that would have to be studied in the UK if you want to work here. What is to stop the government pushing fees up even higher? They know that there will always be people who want to study law and medicine so they will be able to charge what they want. The government will have nobody but themselves to blame for a potential brain drain and shortage of skilled workers in a particular sector in the future Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 but we have a shortage of technical engineers for example, meaning we have to pay extra to get them from other countries.Yeah, fuck with the Brazilian here... Liquidator 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 It is among the best in the world but it was before fees went up to 9000 per year. It isn't fair for people to have to pay that. The government should pay more attention to what the country needs to. So many people are going into journalism and media based degrees at university but we have a shortage of technical engineers for example, meaning we have to pay extra to get them from other countries. In Germany there is a financial incentive to study subjects where there is a shortage. Our government should pay more attention to shortages in certain industries and offer incentives to students. It would help to reduce graduate unemployment because there would be a wider range of graduates not all applying for the same type of jobI don't think that shortage can be blamed on a fee rise though. That's where we move onto a tangent of what our schools are actually emphasizing are the "in" degrees if you wish. This is where you could even blame Thatcher for that paradigm shift, but that's another issue. The fees can't be blamed for the shortage of technical engineers considering that we're not actually paying fees during time of study - we're provided by a loan that doesn't require us to pay it back until we're earning a certain amount. There's also an argument to be made about the lack of information being provided to youngsters about the benefits of vocational subjects. Again, another issue that needs to be addressed by the numpties in Parliament. That issue will never be discussed because this country's reliance on the financial sector is key in high school & college's encouraging those degrees and careers. I also agree about the German approach, it's one of the reasons they're the leading countries in industrial development, why they're experts in the automobile industry for example. But that's because Germany relies on that, as the UK does on Financial industries (thanks Marggie again) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 Tempted to learn either one of Spanish, Italian, German or Portuguese..... hmmmmmm what one to choose. Or even try learning french again, was forced to do it in school up until third year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 Tempted to learn either one of Spanish, Italian, German or Portuguese..... hmmmmmm what one to choose. Or even try learning french again, was forced to do it in school up until third yearDO NOT LEARN PORTUGUESE!Seriously, it is way too hard and highly unrewarding... OneMoSalah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 DO NOT LEARN PORTUGUESE!Seriously, it is way too hard and way too unrewarding...It was pretty low on my order of preference tbh. 1) Spanish2) German3) Italian4) French/ PortugueseWell tbh being Scottish I think I need to master English first hahaha.Found something on the BBC website, Spanish for beginners so I think I'll have a look haha. Even if I can just read Spanish tbh, could be useful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 It was pretty low on my order of preference tbh. 1) Spanish2) German3) Italian4) French/ PortugueseWell tbh being Scottish I think I need to master English first hahaha.Found something on the BBC website, Spanish for beginners so I think I'll have a look haha. Even if I can just read Spanish tbh, could be useful Italian is the coolest language that uses our alphabet (imo)!However, Spanish is easier because their gramatic rules have way less exceptions than Italian or Portuguese...German has a rep to be quite a no brainer for whoever knows English... OneMoSalah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backstreet09 499 Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/af7ce2ca0f/mexican-spanish-lessonsNot really funny, but that mexicano guy kinda sorta look like @ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/af7ce2ca0f/mexican-spanish-lessonsNot really funny, but that mexicano guy kinda sorta look like @ You crazy? Well, you do like Justin Bieber and Torres to my defense! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue-in-me-Veins 4,067 Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 You should wear the pink glasses, then you might win, in fact don't kid yourself you'll get beat more with them... AY BRAH, YOU WANT TO TAKE THIS OUTSIDE?? hahahah but i changed my pic though to my Wolfpack hahahaha. OneMoSalah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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