Ramires

[NiclasCFC 2,582]

Huh? The team's formation is the formation they use when they have the ball. That has always been the case. We defend in a 4-4-2, always have. And even then, it is sometimes Oscar next to Costa and other times it Cesc (and even rarely, Matic).

So how do you explain the back 4 when we have the ball? Iva plays as a right winger when we have the ball....

[Namika 922]

3 assists and 1 goal in 1 game and a half, excellent start of the season. Will be our key player against City imo.

[bababoom 4,478]

We don't really play a traditional 4-3-3 with Cesc, Matic and Oscar, my point is with Ramires included we do and it seems way more balanced.

[NiclasCFC 2,582]

We don't really play a traditional 4-3-3 with Cesc, Matic and Oscar, my point is with Ramires included we do and it seems way more balanced.

THANK YOU.

[MrBlueGuy 1,552]

For a skinny guy he is fit as hell, also never get injured(more like he will injure other players with dangerous tackles). He is a manager's dream, limited technically but hard work and quick, will run ALL MATCH and that is why he WILL start next week against Man City, because we need his energy over Oscar.

[The Chels 2,502]

We don't really play a traditional 4-3-3 with Cesc, Matic and Oscar, my point is with Ramires included we do and it seems way more balanced.

The Cesc-Matic-Ramires trio looked poor defensively against Everton as did the Cesc-Matic-Oscar trio in the first half against Swansea. It was only when we played with all 4 in the second half against Swansea that we looked more secure. I'd still like to see us try Mikel-Matic-Cesc though.

[NiclasCFC 2,582]

The Cesc-Matic-Ramires trio looked poor defensively against Everton as did the Cesc-Matic-Oscar trio in the first half against Swansea. It was only when we played with all 4 in the second half against Swansea that we looked more secure. I'd still like to see us try Mikel-Matic-Cesc though.

You cant compare the Cesc-Matic-Rami trio in the Everton game and the second half of the Swansea game. In the Everton game Rami and Matic played in the pivot with Cesc as the nr 10 and in the second half of the swansea game we played a 4-3-3.

[Polo7 3,496]

Fabregas sometimes has been too deep

You have a lot in common with my girlfriend. She moans when I go too deep....

[The Chels 2,502]

You cant compare the Cesc-Matic-Rami trio in the Everton game and the second half of the Swansea game. In the Everton game Rami and Matic played in the pivot with Cesc as the nr 10 and in the second half of the swansea game we played a 4-3-3.

I don't remember us playing a 4-2-3-1 against Everton. Cesc played mostly deep next to Ramires and Matic in a midfield 3 just as he did against Swansea second half. Either way there wasn't much difference between the two at all.

[DH1988 1,346]

Too deep yet he's assisted 6 goals already.

Ok.

There's always something to moan about, isnt there?

This forum is getting worse I swear.

Yeah sometimes he's too deep then Jose changed the formation e.g. bringing on Ramires and then guess what? He gets the assists.

Mong.

[TrueChelseaBlue 105]

This forum is getting worse I swear.

Yeah sometimes he's too deep then Jose changed the formation e.g. bringing on Ramires and then guess what? He gets the assists.

Mong.

Lol. Don't take it so personally son.

Pipe down.

Appreciate what he's doing rather than the nagatives all the time.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

So how do you explain the back 4 when we have the ball? Iva plays as a right winger when we have the ball....

Just a modern fullback supporting the attack. And even that depends on the opposition and who is playing in front of him. If Schurrle is playing RW, then Iva goes forward less because Andre stays wide. That all changes according to the game.

The point is, I don't like to make those small distinctions because formations aren't rigid in practice. Calling for us to "switch" to 4-3-3 is not that at all; you're calling for a personnel change, namely Ramires for Oscar. That doesn't change the formation because Oscar is already playing a central midfielder role, even if it does give the team something a bit different.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

We don't really play a traditional 4-3-3 with Cesc, Matic and Oscar, my point is with Ramires included we do and it seems way more balanced.

I think that complete depends on the opposition and the tactics we are using. On any account, we currently have a very small a very very small sampling pool to judge from. And I also think that the mistakes in pressing in midfield have been individual rather than collective and both combinations of central midfielders have made mistakes. There is still time to work on the issues. No need to panic, just yet, imo.

[BlueLion. 21,491]

This forum is getting worse I swear.

Yeah sometimes he's too deep then Jose changed the formation e.g. bringing on Ramires and then guess what? He gets the assists.

Mong.

And you're really contributing by calling someone a "mong", congratulations.

[DH1988 1,346]

And you're really contributing by calling someone a "mong", congratulations.