Ramires

[LondonsFinest 692]

When's the last time Ramires scored a shit goal? His finishing is ridiculously good.

That doesn't mean his finishing is good. I can count so many one-on-one with the GK chances, which he misses. That would mean good finishing. To be fair, Ramires's finishing is really poor, but he can sometimes explode with worldies.

[BlueLion. 21,491]

Lmao, what a nightmare lineup.

Do Chelsea need another player who has better workrate than end product?

Not really, but do we need English players? Absolutely.

[Jase 43,479]

Yes.

Milner doesn't offer anything Ramires does except for being English and perhaps a bit better technically but still lacks positional sense (Ramires does as well) as you can see with why whn hes played central midfield for City hes always charging around to get back into position because he has been out of it and doesn't win as many tackles as Rami does. The game against Arsenal Ramires had a good game, is Milner better than that Ramires? No definitely not.

The only aspect Ramires has over Milner is his physical attributes - pace, stamina, strength etc. Otherwise, Milner is much better technically (not just a bit) - he can pass the ball, can cross the ball and heck even deliver proper set pieces into dangerous areas. Not sure why you mentioned Milner's problems in midfield when he's more of a wide player than anything else. He has shown he can player well in that position and combine, play 1-2s effectively with other creative players around him. His combination with Silva in particular has always been great to watch - the movement, the simple passing - and that has always been effective.

[lucio 5,418]

watch their game vs barcelona last season if you think milner is good enough. never have i seen a footballer so out of his depth.

[zolayes 14,489]

Not really, but do we need English players? Absolutely.

RLC ??

[Reddish-Blue 2,347]

Not really, but do we need English players? Absolutely.

If we are really that worried about English players, bring back Bamford next season and give RLC a chance as a squad member

[didierforever 7,349]

people want to sell cahill and on the other hand want to buy a worse player than rambo with no resale value what so ever. no sorry.

if rambo goes, then we should buy a proper replacement like scheinderlein.

[The Skipper 20,593]

people want to sell cahill and on the other hand want to buy a worse player than rambo with no resale value what so ever. no sorry.

if rambo goes, then we should buy a proper replacement like scheinderlein.

I don't want us to sell Cahill though. And I wouldn't even call Schneiderlin a Ramires replacement because the guy can only play in one position.

[didierforever 7,349]

I don't want us to sell Cahill though. And I wouldn't even call Schneiderlin a Ramires replacement because the guy can only play in one position.

if we want ramires' versatility and his big game performances and his engine, i am sorry to say, we wont find it anywhere in the world.

milner wont be half a decent replacement. honestly, tell me if milner can do a job like rambo did against arsenal in the 2nd half when we tweaked the formation. for me, milner would be a good squad player against the likes of leicester where he can provide us with some better attacking than rambo but that is not rambo's USP. its the big games and big moments that he shines.

i was not talking about you, but people are already setting their minds on selling GC (summer transfer window thread), which is so weird cos RM might get a transfer ban and wont be able to buy a varane replacement which means they wont sell him in any way.

[CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625]

people want to sell cahill and on the other hand want to buy a worse player than rambo with no resale value what so ever. no sorry.

if rambo goes, then we should buy a proper replacement like scheinderlein.

Realistically Cahill is going nowhere. First choice England centre back, no leadership skills but he's the natural successor to Terry unless we can get Varane, and even then we might not see the back of him.

Plus he's better than people round here reckon. Even if he's not likely to be Captain (Ivanovic/Fabregas will get it IMO)

[OneMoSalah 8,778]

The only aspect Ramires has over Milner is his physical attributes - pace, stamina, strength etc. Otherwise, Milner is much better technically (not just a bit) - he can pass the ball, can cross the ball and heck even deliver proper set pieces into dangerous areas. Not sure why you mentioned Milner's problems in midfield when he's more of a wide player than anything else. He has shown he can player well in that position and combine, play 1-2s effectively with other creative players around him. His combination with Silva in particular has always been great to watch - the movement, the simple passing - and that has always been effective.

Hes a central midfielder. Thats where he played at Villa and was easily his best position. Hes not a top 4 player. Not in the slightest. Sure he can cross and pass the ball but so can Stewart Downing does that mean hes good enough to play here?

[Stats 7,056]

watch their game vs barcelona last season if you think milner is good enough. never have i seen a footballer so out of his depth.

One game? I can name high calibre players who have looked out of their depth in one game. Any player can have a complete off day. Milner is a very good player. I don't see how you can judge him on one game.

[Jase 43,479]

Hes a central midfielder. Thats where he played at Villa and was easily his best position. Hes not a top 4 player. Not in the slightest. Sure he can cross and pass the ball but so can Stewart Downing does that mean hes good enough to play here?

Milner spent most of his time at Villa (and at City) playing out wide before being moved to the middle few games before he left Villa. That 'not a top 4 player' argument is not convincing really. You're speaking as if the all top 4 teams have players of the highest quality. Heck, you could probably pick out a few players from our squad right now who isn't a top 4 player. Just because some players aren't, doesn't mean they won't be good/effective for us. United have had plenty of those down the years under Fergie and we've had those as well.

[Reddish-Blue 2,347]

Milner spent most of his time at Villa (and at City) playing out wide before being moved to the middle few games before he left Villa. That 'not a top 4 player' argument is not convincing really. You're speaking as if the all top 4 teams have players of the highest quality. Heck, you could probably pick out a few players from our squad right now who isn't a top 4 player. Just because some players aren't, doesn't mean they won't be good/effective for us. United have had plenty of those down the years under Fergie and we've had those as well.

At the end of the day, Milner would be nothing more than a HG squad player at Chelsea...hopefully Mourinho/the board are looking to attract better players in the next transfer window

[Jase 43,479]

At the end of the day, Milner would be nothing more than a HG squad player at Chelsea...hopefully Mourinho/the board are looking to attract better players in the next transfer window

Obviously that is the most important but if we can help improve the squad depth, especially if some players were to leave, then I don't see why we should pass up the opportunity to sign a someone like Milner who won't cost a thing.

[didierforever 7,349]

i just dont get this discussion.

are we actually discussing about milner as a RAMBO replacement.

i know rambo has got limitations. a lot of limitations. but people expect me to believe that milner can do the rambo job in the carling cup final, against spurs? they have got to be deluded. would rather see moses or one of our armies of loanees playing on the wings than milner.

[BlueLion. 21,491]

RLC ??

If we are really that worried about English players, bring back Bamford next season and give RLC a chance as a squad member

Let's not kid ourselves, if we wanted to develop youth players we would need to sack our manager first.

[Essien19 1,415]

Ramires is a good squad player, but should be nothing more. He does not complain about sitting on the bench or playing out of position.
Furthermore he seems like nice guy and executes Mourinhos instructions perfectly, his brutality is legendary, for example ask Mario Götze, lol.
Especially in the games against PSG i saw his limitations, next season Koke/Pogba should overtake his spot.
Sadly i am not so sure Mourinho would agree, because Mourinho believes in playing reactive football.

Whoever has the ball has fear.

I think Ramires would like that comment, lol.