kellzfresh 7,229 Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 Back to form!!! Please don't go on a long torres break again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,489 Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 He was indeed, and?Ramires made a big difference in midfieldedit - sorry. i thought you were saying matic did not have a good game. never mind now Henrique 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 So haters. Where are u now???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedsBlue 1,549 Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 So haters. Where are u now????guess they've moved to the Oscar thread now. Henrique, Sidzeret, zolayes and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joker10 946 Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 Good performance. But it is truly amazing how often i have seen him get bailed out by opposing defenders after a bad touch or when he is surrounded by 2-3 defenders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 He did a decent job. We were getting overrun in midfield and he was a good extra body to throw in there. He's always been capable of being a good player but his problem is consistency and I don't see how 90 45 good minutes changes that.Not sure why Matic is being brought up but as he is it should be noted that he was absolutely remarkable in every regard and probably will be next game too....Ramires, well it's a coin toss. The Chels 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 So haters. Where are u now????I'm no hater but I often mentioned how good he is when a team attack us and bad when a team Park the bus. Against city, arsenal, United Liverpool and such he will be vital for us. Against West brom, West ham and such, he is not needed. The Chels 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 guess they've moved to the Oscar thread now.no they are stalking Kalou in France BleedsBlue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrExcalibur100 7,124 Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 Mourinho claimed he's been carrying an injury in his post-match press conference with the BBC. Is that why he's been so poor recently?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 Jose post match: "Ramires is important, but Ramires is injured. He has been injured for a long time and I was trying to protect him today but I couldn't because I needed his intensity and his runs into space and I needed him in 1on1s." Henrique and Kieran. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 I'm no hater but I often mentioned how good he is when a team attack us and bad when a team Park the bus. Against city, arsenal, United Liverpool and such he will be vital for us. Against West brom, West ham and such, he is not needed.He has limitations. Anyone who watchea footbqll cqn and should know thqt. But the amonut of ridicule he was getting hwre wqs Pathetic.SPECIALLY for a player who deapite his limitations has done some legendary stuff forus. This was the same player who was IMMENSE for uUS in the fieat 3 months. The bare minimum he ahould get is some reapect and support. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAB 1,030 Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 I desperately have to believe that the fatigue was responsible for his latest poor performances. Because Rami on form is a must have for Chelsea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,142 Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 I desperately have to believe that the fatigue was responsible for his latest poor performances. Because Rami on form is a must have for Chelsea.Fatigue does not exist for Ramires. He is the Brazilian version of Mo Farah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happy_juan 64 Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 "Rested" again today... Has Mourinho finally realised his limitations? I hope so!Awkward? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chels 2,502 Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 Awkward?How exactly? That Ramires simply running and offering energy was enough to warrant plaudits from many highlights just how low expectations are for him, a CM. Even in his best match in weeks he couldn't cross for toffee, hitting the first man when attempting to do so and once more he demonstrated his limited technical abilities with his usual poor passing. If someone compiled all his actions into one video, you'll see it. He offered more in this game than he has done recently and played well (for his recent standards), but I stand by my original point in that his limitations will mean he'll cost us more points than he will gain for us over the course of the season. The only place to be and Barbara 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 69% pass completion for him last night. Ivanovic and Schurrle had lower, but compared to Lampard (89%) he was shocking. Technically he's inconsistent at best and been dining off that goal against Barca for the last two years. I just don't know if you can afford to play him in a team with our aspirations if you want to keep the ball, rather than chasing it. Because he can chase a ball like no other, but once he gets it then you don't really know what you're going to get. Barbara, Peace., The Chels and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Defensively he did well yesterday, but his decision making on the ball at times is just Barbara 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Styles 9,790 Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 69% pass completion for him last night. Ivanovic and Schurrle had lower, but compared to Lampard (89%) he was shocking. Technically he's inconsistent at best and been dining off that goal against Barca for the last two years. I just don't know if you can afford to play him in a team with our aspirations if you want to keep the ball, rather than chasing it. Because he can chase a ball like no other, but once he gets it then you don't really know what you're going to get.But we're not a team that wants possession so Ramires is perfect for Mourinho. We had 42% of the ball last night which is what the manager wants. Mourinho’s main tactic essentially amounts to conceding possession, pressing the opponent and counter-attacking at the speed of light. I agree with the belief that Ramires wouldn’t make sense in a team that keeps the ball and plays an accurate possession game but we don’t do any of that.As silly as it sounds Mourinho’s tactics require a player(s) that is wasteful in possession. You can’t counter-attack if you have the lion’s share of possession. The Skipper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 But we're not a team that wants possession so Ramires is perfect for Mourinho. We had 42% of the ball last night which is what the manager wants. Mourinho’s main tactic essentially amounts to conceding possession, pressing the opponent and counter-attacking at the speed of light. I agree with the belief that Ramires wouldn’t make sense in a team that keeps the ball and plays an accurate possession game but we don’t do any of that.As silly as it sounds Mourinho’s tactics require a player(s) that is wasteful in possession. You can’t counter-attack if you have the lion’s share of possession.I disagree with that entirely. Why did he buy Matic if he didn't want us to be able to control the play? Why did he rely on players like Alonso at Madrid?It isn't about letting the team attack you so you can hit them, but maximising the chances that you get when they do open up. kellzfresh and Barbara 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Styles 9,790 Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 I disagree with that entirely. Why did he buy Matic if he didn't want us to be able to control the play? Why did he rely on players like Alonso at Madrid?It isn't about letting the team attack you so you can hit them, but maximising the chances that you get when they do open up.Matic is brilliant at winning the ball back and making direct passes on the break which are essential for a counter-attacking team. The Man City away win is a perfect example of his game and why Mourinho bought him. If you're suggesting that he's been brought in to be part of a possession-team I disagree.Under Mourinho Madrid's identity was that they were a great counter-attacking team. Alonso was playing a far more direct game under Mourinho than he had ever done before in his career, in my opinion.We're not being built to keep the ball so Ramires fits this team. The manager wants to do the same thing he did at Madrid and develop a brilliant counter-attack game. Winning the ball back and breaking at speed are very important for that style of play and Ramires does those things at an elite level. He is an untouchable under Mourinho and will remain so until his legs go. The Skipper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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