Nathaniel Chalobah

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Future England captain?! Talk about a premature discussion!

It's a discussion that has been going on for years in football circles.

Yes, just like people a couple of years back were saying that Josh would be a regular with England by now. This kid is special indeed, he has the potential to become world class, I think most people can see that. But he's still 19yo. And before you mention Wilshere, Jack has tons of experience at the top level for Arsenal and is miles ahead of Chalobah in terms of technical ability.

Saying he's 'miles ahead' is ridiculous. They have different roles in the team and I think you're completely underestimating how good Chalobah is. This isn't something new either - he's looked exceptional for years and even United fans who watched their youth games realised that. The better comparison isn't Wilshere - it's Pogba.

My point is, if I tell you now, there's a 20yo player in the championship with technical abilities way beyond his age and passing skills better than most of our squad, you'd be saying we should pay 20+m for him, and yet people say that McEachran is not good enough for Chelsea. For me, his development has stalled a bit, but he's still on track. He hasn't under achieved, but the original hopes of Chelsea fans were unrealistic.The same could happen with Nathanial if we're not careful.

If you want to discuss McEachran then put something in his thread rather than making half-arsed assertions in this one. McEachran has a completely different set of issues and I've explained my view on them before.

Using that as an argument against Chalobah is absolutely ridiculous to anyone who has watched their development.

Also there is a 20 year old in the Championship who is exceptionally talented and has been bought by Man United for about £15 million - I wonder if their fans are discussing whether to loan him to Swansea or Watford next season.

Yes, I thought/hoped Josh would be with the first team by now, but the point is those expectations would only lead to people saying that he's underachieved and is not good enough for Chelsea when he doesn't make them.

Fortunately I have confidence in this guy. He's overachieved at every level he's played at and shows a level of maturity, composure and heart that we desperately need in our midfield.

[ja1 1,166]

Hull lost

Hull now 2 points above Watford with a game left. For Watford to get automatic promotion they just need Hull to drop points and a Watford win. Even a Hull draw would, bar some crazy scoreline, see Watford through.

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Whoops I have miscalculated - Hull are now just a point above Watford

[Leif 6,006]

IF he gets loaned out again (just forget whether we think he's ready or not for our squad) and IF Watford do get promoted, do we want him staying at Watford for another season so he can make that position his own in the Premier League? Or do we want him in a new team with a different style who'll likely give him a different role, thus expanding the possibilities for when he eventually ends up here?

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IF he gets loaned out again (just forget whether we think he's ready or not for our squad) and IF Watford do get promoted, do we want him staying at Watford for another season so he can make that position his own in the Premier League? Or do we want him in a new team with a different style who'll likely give him a different role, thus expanding the possibilities for when he eventually ends up here?

I'd say stay at Watford (if he isn't coming back to Chelsea) and stay with Zola. He seems to get on well with his manager who happens to be a Chelsea legend and seems happy within the squad, wouldn't make sense to loan him to a different club IMO.

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Stay with Zola <3

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Watford ideally, I think he suits their style of play. He can play quickly, one touch when the situation calls for it. Him, Abdi and a proper DM, someone like Liam Briddcut would be a good midfield to for a promoted team.

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I thought we were sending all our young players to Swansea.

We could send him to Watford. It's the easy choice and it saves us having to have some balls and give some young players a chance for once, and what could be better for a young player than a relegation fight to get him ready for the rigours of a title push and Champions League football?

Personally I think the best place for him would be Man United. They develop youngsters well, they need a midfielder like him, they've got a good manager in place and he'll get European experience. Plus he'd have some company alongside Zaha in making the step-up from Championship to Premier League level.

[Muzchap 8,966]

I thought we were sending all our young players to Swansea.

We could send him to Watford. It's the easy choice and it saves us having to have some balls and give some young players a chance for once, and what could be better for a young player than a relegation fight to get him ready for the rigours of a title push and Champions League football?

Personally I think the best place for him would be Man United. They develop youngsters well, they need a midfielder like him, they've got a good manager in place and he'll get European experience. Plus he'd have some company alongside Zaha in making the step-up from Championship to Premier League level.

Yup! You got it

We moan no youth players, then decide to keep loaning them out? I mean WTF!

How can you judge how he would play for Chelsea if we don't actually play him!!!

We need to play him!!!!

Also Quality players play better around other quality players

I'd rather loan out Mikel and play Chalobah next year...!!!

#grrrrrrrrrr

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I thought we were sending all our young players to Swansea.

We could send him to Watford. It's the easy choice and it saves us having to have some balls and give some young players a chance for once, and what could be better for a young player than a relegation fight to get him ready for the rigours of a title push and Champions League football?

Personally I think the best place for him would be Man United. They develop youngsters well, they need a midfielder like him, they've got a good manager in place and he'll get European experience. Plus he'd have some company alongside Zaha in making the step-up from Championship to Premier League level.

I agree with the point about sending Chalobah to Watford next season when they get promoted (I just know they will). However, I disagree with your second point. Yes, he would fit in well but would you really want Nat to be the one to win the points for United that could potentially mean they win the title and we get 2nd place?

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I agree with the point about sending Chalobah to Watford next season when they get promoted (I just know they will). However, I disagree with your second point. Yes, he would fit in well but would you really want Nat to be the one to win the points for United that could potentially mean they win the title and we get 2nd place?

Hi mate - I think he was being sarcastic about loaning him to Utd

What he meant was, is that if Sir Alex (lol) had a player of this calibre at his disposal he would already be getting game time at Utd. Learning from the rest of the team etc.

NOT being loaned out to other teams with other styles of play, only to have to come back and try and learn the Chelsea way.

If you're good enough, you're old enough is what OPTB is trying to say and I agree

Chalobah >>>>> Mikel IMHO

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So Hull have Cardiff in their last game of the season. Hopefully Cardiff produce a draw against them and Watford beat Leeds to clinch automatic promotion. Really want to see Nathaniel at Watford in the PL next season, would be absolutely ideal. Come on Watford!

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Hi mate - I think he was being sarcastic about loaning him to Utd

What he meant was, is that if Sir Alex (lol) had a player of this calibre at his disposal he would already be getting game time at Utd. Learning from the rest of the team etc.

NOT being loaned out to other teams with other styles of play, only to have to come back and try and learn the Chelsea way.

If you're good enough, you're old enough is what OPTB is trying to say and I agree

Chalobah >>>>> Mikel IMHO

Ahh, sarcasm on the internet! Well then, I agree!

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So Hull have Cardiff in their last game of the season. Hopefully Cardiff produce a draw against them and Hull beat Leeds to clinch automatic promotion. Really want to see Nathaniel at Watford in the PL next season, would be absolutely ideal. Come on Watford!

Hull's so good that they'll play twice on the last day? Seems legit. Either that or it's actually meant to be "Watford beat Leeds"...

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[The Skipper 20,609]

Hull's so good that they'll play twice on the last day? Seems legit. Either that or it's actually meant to be "Watford beat Leeds"...

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Lol! You know what I meant Sir Trollington! Literally living up to your name