Enzo Maresca Thread

[OneMoSalah 8,883]

4 hours ago, King Kante said:

Problem is that he is running people into the ground. Palmer for instance, has needed to come off around the 60 min mark for the past 4 games. Yet he has played every minute. Sancho is a half a game player. Plays 75 mins plus every time he starts give or take. 

I just don't get why he doesn't make subs. Sure Felix is a downgrade on Palmer at 100% each. But Felix at 100% and Palmer at 60% is when you need to swap. Not never. 

Not trying Nkunku as a 10 more has been a huge issue for me. Or even m as a 9 to take Jackson out for a rest/when underperforming/struggling to convert big chances.

Palmer is the best player we have but he cannot compete every game at that level, we’ve already seen it. He was also heavily used under Poch last season and he is starting to look leggy at times in this last 5 weeks. Really not surprised at the lack of minutes for Felix though, he is the biggest definition of a luxury player and if the rumours are the manager didn’t want him then I can see why he’s maybe not played a lot either from that side, like KDH and even Jorgensen.

Completely agree on Sancho, can be severely lacking at times and tends to drift in and out of games far too often (but I think all of our attackers tend to do this barring Cole without considering this last month to 6 weeks). For me, like Felix, Sancho is more of a luxury player than someone you can count on every week to show up, do the business and put a shift in. I am a bit worried that Maresca sees him as a key part of the team in the long run. Don’t get me wrong prefer him to Mudryk, least he can provide some moments of quality but needs to take himself to the next level and be consistent if he wants to make good on his potential.

[Reddish-Blue 2,488]

10 hours ago, OneMoSalah said:

For me, like Felix, Sancho is more of a luxury player than someone you can count on every week to show up, do the business and put a shift in. I am a bit worried that Maresca sees him as a key part of the team in the long run.

Agree with this, I feel it won't be as bad in the long run (on the right side of our attack) as we have the Brazilian wonderkid showing up next season. 

Wonder what the plan is for the left side of the attack as I doubt Sancho/Mudryk gets it done....maybe Jackson plays a bit off the left and we get a proper striker in the main transfer window? 

[Special Juan 28,087]

Jackson's future will pan out very simply if we buy a new CF, he won't be played wide he will be benched and that will result in him wanting away.

Neto will cement that spot, Mudryk will be loaned/sold and Estavao will be right

[Vesper 30,076]

13 hours ago, Special Juan said:

Neto will cement that spot,

not sold on Neto

never was

he simply doesnt produce enough goals

never has

[robsblubot 3,595]

8 minutes ago, Vesper said:

not sold on Neto

never was

he simply doesnt produce enough goals

never has

Which implies he was not signed for that.

[Vesper 30,076]

34 minutes ago, robsblubot said:

Which implies he was not signed for that.

good luck winning trophies with one of our starting wingers scoring 2 or 3 league goals all season

Neto has ONE league goal in over 1000 league minutes

TWO assists

his league goal totals over the years

1 (2 games)

0 (1 game)

0 (4 games)

3 (29 games)

5 (31 games)

1 (13 games)

0 (18 games)

2 (20 games)

1 (this season so far, 18 games)

 

FOUR league goals in his last 76 league games (all in the EPL)

that output makes Chels Willian look like Messi

[TheHulk 2,400]

5 minutes ago, Vesper said:

good luck winning trophies with one of our starting wingers scoring 2 or 3 league goals all season

Neto has ONE league goal in over 1000 league minutes

TWO assists

his league goal totals over the years

1 (2 games)

0 (1 game)

0 (4 games)

3 (29 games)

5 (31 games)

1 (13 games)

0 (18 games)

2 (20 games)

1 (this season so far, 18 games)

 

FOUR league goals in his last 76 league games (all in the EPL)

that output makes Chels Willian look like Messi

Think he'd be scoring and assisting more if he played for an already settled team like Liverpool.

[robsblubot 3,595]

2 hours ago, Vesper said:

good luck winning trophies with one of our starting wingers scoring 2 or 3 league goals all season

Neto has ONE league goal in over 1000 league minutes

TWO assists

his league goal totals over the years

1 (2 games)

0 (1 game)

0 (4 games)

3 (29 games)

5 (31 games)

1 (13 games)

0 (18 games)

2 (20 games)

1 (this season so far, 18 games)

 

FOUR league goals in his last 76 league games (all in the EPL)

that output makes Chels Willian look like Messi

Yes, this was known. You are singling out a player for his characteristics and at the same time showing that all was well-known before we signed him. There was no birthday season or whatnot... what you see is what you get with him.

My point being that this is about balancing the squad, so you need a Neto just as you need goal scorers too. I personally don't think scoring goals has been our main problem. We concede too many goals and the issue starts with the attacking players who don't do a good job pressing the opposition.
Reckon we would also score more goals if our attackers could steal the football closer to the opposition goal.
I value a lot these type of players and I usually see them in winning sides more so than the "lazy" skillful prima donnas. 

 

Edited January 18 by robsblubot

[Reddish-Blue 2,488]

1 hour ago, robsblubot said:

I personally don't think scoring goals has been our main problem. We concede too many goals and the issue starts with the attacking players who don't do a good job pressing the opposition.

Bournemouth exploited that in the 2nd half on so many occasions, Madueke and Sancho not bothering to run back at all and Maresca decides not to make any attacking subs until 80th minute of the game. 

Maresca's lack of rotations and impact subs will continue to cost us over this period of games and top 4 is likely to slip away. 

[bigbluewillie 1,930]

It’s already slipped away bruv🤧

[Mhsc 1,091]

11 hours ago, Vesper said:

good luck winning trophies with one of our starting wingers scoring 2 or 3 league goals all season

Willian won two PLs with us didn't he, only scored 2 goals from 36 PL games in 14/15? I think a team can live with one hard worker who doesn't put out big goal scoring numbers but has basically every other quality you want, indeed it can be good for balance, but the rest of the guys around him need to put out decent numbers.

Personally I like him and glad we got him in the squad, one of the best wingers we've had in years and years overall, but he's got to be a piece of a jigsaw and probably not a completely guaranteed starter.

[Vesper 30,076]

5 hours ago, Mhsc said:

Willian won two PLs with us didn't he, only scored 2 goals from 36 PL games in 14/15? I think a team can live with one hard worker who doesn't put out big goal scoring numbers but has basically every other quality you want, indeed it can be good for balance, but the rest of the guys around him need to put out decent numbers.

Personally I like him and glad we got him in the squad, one of the best wingers we've had in years and years overall, but he's got to be a piece of a jigsaw and probably not a completely guaranteed starter.

different team, different style, different era

[Vesper 30,076]

Chelsea’s Champions League qualification hopes hinge on reviving their home form

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6066338/2025/01/18/Chelsea-champions-league-home-away-maresca/

Enzo Maresca could really do with seeing his Chelsea side win in the Premier League for the first time in a month when they host Wolves on Monday.

By the time that game kicks off at Stamford Bridge, Chelsea will have dropped to seventh in the table if Manchester City (away to Ipswich) and Aston Villa (at Arsenal) win over the weekend.

Chelsea’s run of three points from the last 15 available has played a major role in them tumbling down the standings in recent weeks (they were second after the goalless draw away to Everton on December 22). But their attempts to qualify for the Champions League via a top-four finish have been undermined by inconsistent home form since the start of the season five months ago.

The table below shows Chelsea are only the 10th-best side in England’s top division when it comes to games played on their pitch, with a disappointing return of 16 points from a possible 30. Manchester United, who have attracted a lot more negative scrutiny for their struggles this season, have that many, following their late win against Southampton on Thursday.

 

Home form table 2024-25

Team	Played	Won	Drawn	Lost	Goals for	Goals against	Points
Arsenal	10	7	3	0	20	7	24
Liverpool	10	7	2	1	20	8	23
Brentford	11	7	2	2	29	21	23
Aston Villa	11	6	4	1	19	13	22
Newcastle United	10	6	2	2	18	8	20
Manchester City	10	6	2	2	21	14	20
Bournemouth	10	5	3	2	12	7	18
Nottingham Forest	10	5	3	2	12	8	18
Fulham	11	4	5	2	18	17	17
Chelsea	10	4	4	2	17	13	16
Manchester United	11	5	1	5	16	17	16
Brighton	10	3	6	1	14	13	15
Tottenham Hotspur	11	4	2	5	26	21	14
West Ham United	11	4	2	5	16	24	14
Crystal Palace	11	2	5	4	10	17	11
Everton	10	2	4	4	9	11	10
Leicester City	11	2	3	6	11	19	9
Wolverhampton Wanderers	10	2	1	7	14	23	7
Ipswich Town	11	1	4	6	8	18	7
Southampton	10	1	1	8	7	27	4

 

Compare that statistic with how Chelsea are faring away.

Despite stumbling a little of late, with two points from their past three games on the road, Maresca’s team are third, with only three fewer away points than league leaders Liverpool, albeit having played one game more.

 

Away form table 2024-25

Team	Played	Won	Drawn	Lost	Goals for	Goals against	Points
Liverpool	10	7	3	0	28	12	24
Nottingham Forest	11	7	2	2	18	12	23
Chelsea	11	6	3	2	24	13	21
Arsenal	11	5	4	2	21	12	19
Newcastle United	11	5	3	3	19	14	18
Bournemouth	11	4	4	3	20	18	16
Brighton	11	4	4	3	18	16	16
Manchester City	11	4	3	4	17	15	15
Crystal Palace	10	3	4	3	13	11	13
Fulham	10	3	4	3	14	13	13
Aston Villa	10	4	1	5	12	19	13
West Ham United	10	3	3	4	11	17	12
Tottenham Hotspur	10	3	1	6	17	11	10
Manchester United	10	2	4	4	10	12	10
Ipswich Town	10	2	3	5	12	19	9
Wolverhampton Wanderers	11	2	3	6	17	25	9
Everton	10	1	4	5	6	15	7
Brentford	10	1	2	7	11	16	5
Leicester City	10	1	2	7	12	27	5
Southampton	11	0	2	9	6	20	2

 

Maresca is aware of the problem.

Asked by The Athletic at his pre-match press conference on Friday about the importance of picking up more victories at Stamford Bridge in the second half of the season, he replied: “For sure, we need to win games (at home).

“Now, if we win all the games away and we draw some games at home, it doesn’t matter, but in terms of balance, for sure, we need to win games. We also need our people, our fans, with us; they can see the effort of the team every game but at the end of the game when we win, we are all happy, and hopefully we can give them three points on Monday.”

Maresca is not the only football coach to suffer the frustration of a significant difference between their team’s home and away form. Just a few miles down the road in west London, Brentford’s Thomas Frank could argue he has the most justification to be irked this season, given the huge disparity between their results. A formidable outfit in familiar surroundings (third, with 23 points), their recent win at rock-bottom Southampton is Brentford’s only one in 10 matches on their travels.

 

Unlike Frank, though, there is a lot of expectation on a Chelsea head coach to deliver wins home and away. But to get fans truly onside, it is particularly important to be picking up three points consistently at Stamford Bridge. Yes, the away support is very influential because that group tends to be made up of the hardcore. But many more Chelsea fans attend home matches than go on the road, and that makes for more people who can make their feelings known.

This week’s fixture serves as a good reminder of that.

Mauricio Pochettino’s team got booed off at both half-time and full time in the corresponding game last season, as they were beaten 4-2. There were chants in support of Chelsea’s previous owner Roman Abramovich — as well as the club’s most successful head coach, Jose Mourinho — during the 90 minutes that February day.

 

Wolves won at Stamford Bridge in the February of last season (Richard Heathcote/Getty Images)

Pochettino did not taste defeat on home soil again and the season ended on a positive note with five straight wins, but he never forged a great bond with the fanbase during his one year in the dugout.

Maresca has made a greater effort to do so since being named Pochettino’s replacement in June. Unlike his predecessor, the Italian has regularly gone on the pitch to acknowledge the supporters, and those shows of appreciation have worked. It was only last month that the crowd were singing “We’ve got our Chelsea back” in appreciation of what they were seeing.

But that song has disappeared, along with the feel-good factor, over the past four weeks. Should Chelsea struggle again on Monday night, it will not be surprising if the moans and groans crank up a notch.

Chelsea have six more points than at this stage (after 21 matches) last season. They have also scored seven more goals away than at home (24 to 17), having played only one game more. So is there any evidence to show if Chelsea are doing anything differently, and to explain why?

Comparing the two records on a variety of data, the output is a little mixed.

Obviously, the quality of opposition Chelsea have faced in their home and away matches can skew things. However, it should still be highlighted they boast more possession, territorial dominance (field tilt) and pressing intensity (PPDA) on their travels than when playing at Stamford Bridge.

This suggests they are more comfortable using Maresca’s tactics in away matches, where they perhaps get more space in transition and the games can be open. That said, there are fewer examples of winning the ball high up the pitch (possession won in the attacking third) in away matches and a greater number of both shots and direct attacks at home.

Maresca says he has spotted a difference in the team himself.

“Probably when we play away, against teams that sit back, we are more calm because we don’t rush,” he said. “When we are at home, sometimes we want to play quick, because we want to show the fans that we want to be quick. This is a mistake against teams that sit back but when teams press higher, you can attack quick.

“Against Bournemouth (on Tuesday, when Chelsea scored first, fell behind, and snatched a point in added time), they were high pressing and we attacked so many times aggressively with Nico (Nicolas Jackson), Cole (Palmer) and Enzo (Fernandez). It depends a little bit but, probably away, because of the behaviour of the other team, we could be better (than at Stamford Bridge).”

Chelsea’s issues playing on their own pitch are not new.

Since they last won the Premier League eight years ago, they have only once averaged over two points per game at Stamford Bridge — a barometer for a strong home record — and that was back in 2018-19.

What should be of concern for Maresca is how his record after 10 home fixtures compares with other Chelsea managers at that point over the previous nine seasons. The chart below includes that 2016-17 title-winning campaign under Antonio Conte as a measure of the standards the club used to set.

As you can see, only 2019-20 under Frank Lampard and Pochettino last term are worse than Maresca’s return so far in his debut year.

Home form first 10 games last 9 seasons

Season	Manager	Won	Drawn	Lost	Goals for	Goals against	Points
2016-17	Antonio Conte	9	0	1	28	6	27
2017-18	Antonio Conte	7	1	2	16	7	22
2018-19	Maurizio Sarri	6	3	1	19	8	21
2021-22	Thomas Tuchel	5	4	1	23	8	19
2022-23	Graham Potter/Tuchel	5	3	2	13	7	18
2020-21	Frank Lampard/Tuchel	4	4	2	19	11	16
2024-25	Enzo Maresca	4	4	2	17	13	16
2023-24	Mauricio Pochettino	4	3	3	17	14	15
2019-20	Frank Lampard	4	2	4	11	10	14

After Chelsea lost away for only the second time in the league this season, at Ipswich on December 30, Opta’s league prediction model — which estimates the likelihood of teams finishing in each position by using the probability of each match outcome (win, draw or loss), betting market odds and Opta’s power rankings and simulating the remaining fixtures in the competition thousands of times — still rated their chances of finishing in the top four at 78.5 per cent.

Just over two weeks later, that figure has plummeted to 36.8 per cent.

It’s the same number as for Nottingham Forest, who are third, and smaller than those of Newcastle (47.9 per cent) and Manchester City (53.5 per cent) in fourth and sixth respectively. For fifth-placed Chelsea to get back on an upward curve, they need to begin winning regularly at home.

It helps that, of their nine remaining top-flight games at Stamford Bridge, eight are against clubs currently 12th or below in the table, with only leaders Liverpool to visit from its upper echelons. That provides an opportunity for improvement.

But getting the better of Wolves would be a good place to start.

[milka 3,390]

Empty promises of a bright future are even more worthless, if the team doesn't qualify in the top 4, that's how things are with 2 strong months, that can't change.  The demands should always be high, as it was with Don Roman, no one waits you.

[Ledg 643]

If they wanted an unexperienced manager who isn't ready for a club like ours and just happy to be here, should've stuck with Lampard.

Would've saved us a lot of money from Poch and Maresca.

[Mhsc 1,091]

11 minutes ago, Ledg said:

If they wanted an unexperienced manager who isn't ready for a club like ours and just happy to be here, should've stuck with Lampard.

Would've saved us a lot of money from Poch and Maresca.

We would be relegated with Lampard, come on man, he's not ready for PL and may never be.

[NikkiCFC 8,285]

For me biggest problem is apparently we want long term manager for long term project. So why we didn't give 2 or 3 seasons to Potter and Poch? Both actually showed signs of improvement before we let them go. Now Maresca says plan is top 4 next season and in 3rd season fighting for title. But we are in 3rd season now?! Why changing managers every season and back to square one? Now we may sack Enzo and next manager will need a couple of seasons 😂

[Milan 17,955]

You keep selecting Sanchez, you deserve the sack and I will support the sack, simply because of the Sanchez suicidal obssession. Just leave him out or fuck off.