Brighton 1-2 Chelsea

[Thor 2,713]

1 hour ago, lluubbeenn said:

I just read that James ban will be 5 games for violent conduct. So he misses Bournemouth and the first 3 next season…

Hope we somehow reduce it. What a stupid action on his part…

He barely touched him...

[Thor 2,713]

Caceido MOTM again. 

He can't pass, tackle, run, do anything though. 

[lluubbeenn 174]

15 minutes ago, Thor said:

He barely touched him...

Joao Pedro had no weight on the leg James kicked. If he had stepped on it, could have been really bad. 

I get that Reece doesn't like to be fouled dirty considering all the injuries, but that behaviour is unacceptable. Very lucky it didn't cost us. Had it he would have been front page villain. 

[Fulham Broadway 17,319]

 

[King Kante 1,643]

7 hours ago, NikkiCFC said:

There's no agenda, just incompetent refs. After all we had most penalties this season 12.

Well we should've had two against the Dippers, one against City in the Semi and I think there are more. It is all well and good saying we had a lot, but it is because we've been fouled so much. However, I agree it is largely to do with incompetence. 

2 hours ago, lluubbeenn said:

I just read that James ban will be 5 games for violent conduct. So he misses Bournemouth and the first 3 next season…

Hope we somehow reduce it. What a stupid action on his part…

I thought it was 3, have they changed the rules on this? 5 is crazy. 

[Mhsc 1,097]

I have never heard anything about a 5 game suspension for violent conduct, except in exceptional circumstances like those issued to Suarez. I would assume it will be 3?

Honestly don't think Reece should continue as captain. What he has going for him is that he has been at Chelsea for a very long time, which is great. But I'd sooner have Chalobah or Gallagher be captaining than him tbh, if that is all we're looking for in a Captain. Better yet I would like an experienced international footballer who stays fit and is captain for their country to be our captain, but I'm not sure we have any of those anymore...

[Special Juan 28,141]

Reece is just stupid, and him missing games next season won't matter as Gusto is both fitter and will offer much more in the future.

Good win all told though, Palmer's header was great and Caicedo out did the booing as he was excellent

VAR is not the issue it is the people using it, they are not trained full and just simply stuck in front of a screen and told 'do it'

[bluesman2610 1,417]

5 hours ago, Special Juan said:

VAR is not the issue it is the people using it, they are not trained full and just simply stuck in front of a screen and told 'do it'

The issue with VAR is human error, not the technology as you say. The inconsistencies in refereeing decisions across the board cause the problems. What needs to happen is that when centre officials and var officials mess up they need to be demoted down to a lower level and not just the championship for an extended period. Also, all poor decisions on their part should be investigated which will show bias against other calls they have made in the past.  If players and managers can be fined for unsporting behaviour so can match officials, once it affects their pockets they will do better.

[Special Juan 28,141]

1 hour ago, bluesman2610 said:

The issue with VAR is human error, not the technology as you say. The inconsistencies in refereeing decisions across the board cause the problems. What needs to happen is that when centre officials and var officials mess up they need to be demoted down to a lower level and not just the championship for an extended period. Also, all poor decisions on their part should be investigated which will show bias against other calls they have made in the past.  If players and managers can be fined for unsporting behaviour so can match officials, once it affects their pockets they will do better.

The PGMOL are working incredibly hard behind the scenes to rectify referee errors and addressing what they can do better. I always use a simple comparison when it comes to refs and players being punished for mistakes- If a striker misses a 2 yard sitter, they are not vilified, demoted or left to rot on the bench they are told to not worry about it and keep on going with a pat on the back. If a referee misses a blatant penalty, and by your analogy should be hung out to dry, death threats and attacked at grass roots level, it's not going to work, but what will work is more hard work from Howard Webb and people at the PGMOL .

My son is 18 and level 4 referee now so I now see the inside and outside of officiating. I see the training, the fitness tests and also the examinations they go through and beleive me when I say this it's as intense as anything as I have seen before. My son officiates and represent his regional and now national CORE (centre of refereeing excellence) so he doesn't just your regular coaching at regional level he get's the intense and structured levels at national level. 

As it stands there is no training given on VAR until you are at say level 2.2a/2b I believe. A big thing is also has the person officiating actually played the game to understand the game. A lot of referee's at PL level haven't even played the game and that is a big big thing, why might you ask? Well, an understanding of the game, not the rules of officiating as that is different but understanding game dynamics, pace of games and players and how they try and manipulate officials decisions, when those who have played the game actually act and understand.

One final thing on VAR etc, what they need to to and it is two very simple things to start getting better is clear up and sort the handball rule out, nobody knows what is or is not handball anymore. Secondly this offiside rule is abysmal, a toe offside? We have seen it with us, we get a goal disallowed for someone being level, the next week someone is leaning a yard offside and a goal is given.

It needs to be started again, officlas fully trained on VAR, rules cleared up with clear and concise of what is and isn't legal or illegal and go from there.

 

 

[cosmicway 1,333]

1 hour ago, bluesman2610 said:

The issue with VAR is human error, not the technology as you say. The inconsistencies in refereeing decisions across the board cause the problems. What needs to happen is that when centre officials and var officials mess up they need to be demoted down to a lower level and not just the championship for an extended period. Also, all poor decisions on their part should be investigated which will show bias against other calls they have made in the past.  If players and managers can be fined for unsporting behaviour so can match officials, once it affects their pockets they will do better.

How come we don't have so many controversies concerning VAR in Greece ?
Greece was the land of sending referees to hospital:
 

 

[robsblubot 3,595]

9 hours ago, Thor said:

Caceido MOTM again. 

He can't pass, tackle, run, do anything though. 

He had a good game, but MotM is pushing it.  He's really quick and energetic, but I don't see skill as his main attribute. 🤷‍♂️
Nkunku was impressive from the moment he came on until the very end. He hardly lost the ball without a foul at all.

I think Cuccu picked MotM in most places, and rightfully so IMO.

There were a lot of good performances in a team that is flying physically -- a bit late to reach a physical peak, but something Poch will have to work his fitness coaches.

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[cosmicway 1,333]

I find this strange:
How come four PL teams in the champions league and only two in the Europa ?

[Vesper 30,193]

5 minutes ago, cosmicway said:

I find this strange:
How come four PL teams in the champions league and only two in the Europa ?

much smaller total numbers of teams than the CL

58 for the EL v 79, 80, or 81 for the CL

and the Conference League is even smaller

40 (main phase total)