Fulham Broadway 17,312 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 27 minutes ago, Vesper said: why? Just because he dummied the keeper and put him on his arse. he said that behaviour should be left in the schoolyard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,172 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 26 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said: Just because he dummied the keeper and put him on his arse. he said that behaviour should be left in the schoolyard. that is a the fucking stupidest thing I have heard all season you score goals ANYWAY YOU CAN does that thick twat know how many times Messi, Pele, Maradona, etc put keepers on their arses????? Blue Armour and Fulham Broadway 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 1 hour ago, Fulham Broadway said: Just because he dummied the keeper and put him on his arse. he said that behaviour should be left in the schoolyard. That was the correct finish; Jackson weighted assist was so good that there was no need for a first touch, so he had the time to do fake/dummy shot and then calmly apply the finish. Seen it done many times (pretty common in PK) and it can be very effective esp against quick and agile goalies (Bournemouth goalie was very good in that game). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,312 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 5 hours ago, Vesper said: that is a the fucking stupidest thing I have heard all season you score goals ANYWAY YOU CAN does that thick twat know how many times Messi, Pele, Maradona, etc put keepers on their arses????? Exactly what I thought. How many times has Messi dummied to score...Ronaldinho against us...to my mind there's not enough of it Vesper and Blue Armour 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,319 Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,172 Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 On 05/02/2025 at 18:56, NikkiCFC said: this is concrete proof how fucked up we are as a team atm NikkiCFC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,172 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 Breaking down why Cole Palmer cut such a frustrated figure in Chelsea’s loss at Brighton https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6138219/2025/02/15/cole-palmer-Chelsea-form-frustration-palmer/ Minute 71, February 14, the Amex Stadium. With Christopher Nkunku dropping deep to receive the ball, Cole Palmer, thanks to Reece James pushing into midfield, escapes the clutches of Carlos Baleba, Kaoru Mitoma and Jack Hinshelwood — a situation that rarely came about in the 70 minutes before that — to find space. Nkunku chooses to pass sideways to Enzo Fernandez, drawing a frustrated reaction from Palmer. Fernandez could not escape Yankuba Minteh’s press and passed back to Levi Colwill. Palmer, with shrugged shoulders, shot Nkunku a questioning look as the France international joined him up front. These three snapshots — as well as several other moments of frustration peppered throughout Chelsea’s 3-0 loss at Brighton on Friday — summed up Palmer’s night. Not a lot is going his way at the moment and Chelsea are not helping their best player. It all looked rosy on December 15 when Chelsea won their fifth league match in succession, a 2-1 win over Brentford, to move into second in the Premier League. Chelsea were two points behind Liverpool (having played a game more) and Palmer contributed four goals and an assist during that run. Exactly two months since that result, Chelsea are clinging onto fourth place after a run of two wins in nine league games, during which Palmer has scored three times and assisted none. The England international was due a slump given his exploits since joining Chelsea from Manchester City for £42.5million in 2023. Teams have begun man-marking him tightly this season, with Brighton using a combination of Kaoru Mitoma and Carlos Baleba to slow him down two times in a week (they also beat Enzo Maresca’s side 2-1 in the FA Cup six days earlier). GO DEEPER Maresca is in a dangerous moment In these moments, Palmer must reinvent his game and receive more support from team-mates. The league defeat at Brighton provided little evidence of either. Maresca altered his line-up for this match, making Palmer his most advanced attacker and dropping Nkunku to a right-sided No 10 role in the first half. The idea seemed to be a bid for more fluidity in positional rotations between the two players while giving Palmer the opportunity to influence proceedings from a central position. In the fifth minute, the vision was clear. Colwill plays a line-breaking pass to Palmer, who drops deep to pull Jan Paul van Hecke out of Brighton’s back line. Palmer lays it off for Moises Caicedo to find Nkunku, who runs beyond the back line, with a pass over the top. Caicedo’s pass is blocked, but Chelsea finally seem ready to utilise runs beyond Brighton’s high line as a strategy — something they did not do in their earlier meeting and often struggle to do in Nicolas Jackson’s absence. Jackson is expected to miss the next six to eight weeks with a hamstring injury. The concerns for Chelsea arose when Brighton tweaked their approach. Van Hecke was given license to push ahead to press Palmer, with Joel Veltman drifting into a central area and Minteh playing as the right-back to tackle Pedro Neto. With Nkunku not making runs into the heart of the Brighton defence and preferring to stay closer to right-winger Noni Madueke, this allowed Brighton to limit Chelsea’s passes into Palmer. His 20 first-half touches were the third-fewest he has recorded in a half in the league this season. When Palmer did get on the ball, he did not have much joy and the frustration began showing early on. In this transition from the 15th minute, Palmer receives in space and tries to feed Madueke, who initially runs towards the ball and has to change direction. That allows Baleba to come across and nick the ball away, with Madueke withdrawing from a challenge. Palmer throws his arms up in frustration. In the 18th minute, Madueke nearly made up for that by setting Palmer up following some neat link-up play with Nkunku. Palmer shoots wide with a curler. Immediately after the miss, Fernandez, who is behind Palmer in a central position, remonstrates with the England international for not letting the ball run through to him. Palmer does not share his opinion. Madueke went down with a hamstring problem during that sequence and was replaced by Jadon Sancho, with Neto moving over to the right wing. This hurt Chelsea’s balance further as Neto, also left-footed, struggled to beat Tariq Lamptey for the second game in a row, while Sancho did not have the pace to trouble Minteh on the left. Maresca adjusted by getting Malo Gusto to invert from right-back and moving Nkunku into the central role he had occupied in previous matches, with Palmer operating behind him. The issue with this, though, was that it forced Palmer into deeper positions, such as in the sequence below from the 40th minute, with Nkunku playing with his back to goal. This stopped any chances of Chelsea hurting Brighton with balls over the top of their centre-backs. It also caused more frustration as after Palmer passes to Caicedo, Fernandez, who has positioned himself between two defenders, turns away exasperatedly as Palmer acknowledges him with a raised hand. Another sign of why this particular striker-No 10 partnership did not work came four minutes later. Palmer and Nkunku play a one-two but have little chance of progressing play as Chelsea need two players to beat Brighton’s five-man back line, which also stopped following Palmer, as it did earlier in the game. Nkunku and Palmer combined to have just three touches in Brighton’s penalty area and 12 in their own half in the first 45 minutes. They did not get in each other’s way, but did not let each other flourish either. The second half saw Chelsea continue to dominate possession with Brighton 2-0 (and later 3-0) up. Palmer was more actively involved, particularly with the arrival of substitute James, who occupied Brighton’s midfielders better than Gusto and played more line-breaking passes into him, such as this one from the 83rd minute. But Baleba and Mitoma, who paid close attention to Palmer throughout the second half, close him down to win the ball. Despite his increased involvement, Palmer lost possession 12 times in the second half, his third-worst in a half of a Premier League game this season. As his touch map below shows, Chelsea needed him to drop deep and when he went forward, he did not have much to work with. Questioned after the game about Palmer’s frustrated reactions on the pitch, Maresca put it down to “desire” and the unhappiness that accompanies losing games, but there is a tactical angle the Chelsea manager needs to rectify. It was roughly this time last year when Palmer went through an extended lean patch, failing to score in six games across the league, FA Cup and Carabao Cup final. He rebounded by scoring from his favoured right half-space on the edge of the box after collecting a pass from Fernandez, who was on the receiving end of Palmer’s frustration at Brighton multiple times, in a 3-2 league win over Newcastle United. Palmer and Chelsea desperately need something similar when they visit Aston Villa next weekend. Additional contributor: Conor O’Neill Fulham Broadway 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 (edited) Suppose the question on most peoples minds will be, if we don’t get CL this season, will there be teams snooping around this summer? I know he signed a new deal last summer but how long do we get away without playing in the CL before Cole starts looking around and going WTAF? Talk of some players considering this as it is so is there a chance one of these will be Cole? Edited February 19 by OneMoSalah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Armour 4,439 Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 4 hours ago, OneMoSalah said: Suppose the question on most peoples minds will be, if we don’t get CL this season, will there be teams snooping around this summer? I know he signed a new deal last summer but how long do we get away without playing in the CL before Cole starts looking around and going WTAF? Talk of some players considering this as it is so is there a chance one of these will be Cole? Won't be a long. Once players realize this is a rudderless project, they'll jump ship soon enough. Fulham Broadway and Reddish-Blue 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 Wouldn't blame him in all honesty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,503 Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 10 hours ago, OneMoSalah said: I know he signed a new deal last summer but how long do we get away without playing in the CL before Cole starts looking around and going WTAF? Talk of some players considering this as it is so is there a chance one of these will be Cole? Other than Palmer, Caicedo and maybe Cucurella, I don't see many others kicking up a fuss over CL football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 Says more about them as footballers than where they want to be. OneMoSalah and Blue Armour 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,319 Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 22 hours ago, Blue Armour said: Won't be a long. Once players realize this is a rudderless project, they'll jump ship soon enough. Players who joined us for most exciting project? Their words not mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Armour 4,439 Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 8 hours ago, NikkiCFC said: Players who joined us for most exciting project? Their words not mine. Well, some players like Nkunku already seem to have lost their excitement 😕 bigbluewillie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,534 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 On 19/02/2025 at 23:28, OneMoSalah said: Suppose the question on most peoples minds will be, if we don’t get CL this season, will there be teams snooping around this summer? I know he signed a new deal last summer but how long do we get away without playing in the CL before Cole starts looking around and going WTAF? Talk of some players considering this as it is so is there a chance one of these will be Cole? Definitely. Maybe they'll give it another season if our summer window looks like it has potential and the team looks like it can improve and challenege next season but if not then off they go.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milka 3,394 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 He simply lost interest and in the summer Clownlake will take 80 million from him and buy a some Brazilian especially after incoming another season in Liga de conference . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Armour 4,439 Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 23 hours ago, milka said: He simply lost interest and in the summer Clownlake will take 80 million from him and buy a some Brazilian especially after incoming another season in Liga de conference . If Palmer goes, it will be for big money. And in the eyes of Boehly & Eghbali, it will be seen as a massive success. All that money will then be reinvested in a ton of youth projects, like you said. bigbluewillie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,172 Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 Enzo Maresca on Palmer missing the penalty: “Cole didn't feel well during the night. People need to understand the effort he made to be there. He is a top player. Everything is normal now”. Enzo Maresca: “Palmer didn’t train yesterday, then he woke up today and asked if he could be on the pitch to help this club play Champions League. It shows how this player wants to take this club back to where it belongs”. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,172 Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 Palmer had a scan on Monday to see how things were looking, and Simon Phillips has reported that while there were no problems on the scan, pain remains in the hamstring area, with another scan set for Wednesday. He said on Substack: “SPTC sources can confirm that Palmer has now had the results of that scan and it has come back all clear. However, the pain in his hamstring is still there. “Our sources have also learned that Palmer will be going for a new scan today [Wednesday] on his back to see if the cause is referred pain from his back causing his hamstrings to be tight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,172 Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 Paul Scholes criticises Cole Palmer’s dip in form: “I’ve felt for a while that for Cole Palmer, it’s almost been too easy for him to play in that Chelsea team. He knows he’ll play every week and be the best player. I think he needs challenging more, and I don’t get the impression that they [Chelsea] are desperate to win anything.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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