🇪🇸 1. Robert Sanchez

[lucio 5,418]

1 hour ago, Vesper said:

A billion quid spent and we bought this bloody clown who single-handedly cunted us and destroyed the best Chels defensive performance in years.

I don't recall the last time I was this pissed. Probably the Manure Azpi Slabhead choke slam/no pen given by that walking bellend Taylor game

ruined a season changing moment. should be released immediately 

[MoroccanBlue 5,382]

I think we should give him Brentford and Petrovic Blackburn. Sanchez looks shaky against Brentford as well, with Petrovic looking assertive against Blackburn, than we know what to do. 

[YorkshireBlue 3,277]

8 hours ago, Vesper said:

A billion quid spent and we bought this bloody clown who single-handedly cunted us and destroyed the best Chels defensive performance in years.

I don't recall the last time I was this pissed. Probably the Manure Azpi Slabhead choke slam/no pen given by that walking bellend Taylor game

He didn't single handedly lose us that game at all, that's bullshit!

[Vesper 30,185]

28 minutes ago, YorkshireBlue said:

He didn't single handedly lose us that game at all, that's bullshit!

back at ya m8

bullshit

that is as clear a one player caused loss as you will see

[Vesper 30,185]

8 hours ago, lucio said:

ruined a season changing moment. should be released immediately 

well, that is OTT

but I want to see Đorđe Petrović get a game for sure

[YorkshireBlue 3,277]

7 hours ago, Vesper said:

back at ya m8

bullshit

that is as clear a one player caused loss as you will see

First goal yes, was his fuck up, second goal was a defensive error, your putting it all on the GK because your pissed off! Let's no confuse things here.

[robsblubot 3,595]

It's also difficult to know what the manager asks him to to; Poch may strongly encourage his goalie to try to play from the back, esp against a possession team like Arsenal and City (to prevent them from having the ball). If he does not have the skill for that, well that's something the manager and club have to deal with.

Arsenal's goalie did not cover himself in glory in that fluke cross from Mudryk; can't imagine snake letting that one in.

[Vesper 30,185]

3 hours ago, YorkshireBlue said:

First goal yes, was his fuck up, second goal was a defensive error, your putting it all on the GK because your pissed off! Let's no confuse things here.

Sanchez was partially to blame in the second, and soley on the first.

Bottom line, Sanchez is seriously looking like shit and likely will be another notch in my correctly predicted 'do not buy', then 'shit buy' belt.

So far I have nailed every Boehly bust, although CuCu (and I so hope he does) may prove me wrong on one.

 

‘Could have helped’: ESPN pundit slams 25-year-old Chelsea man for not bailing out ‘tremendous’ teammate

https://www.thechelseachronicle.com/news/could-have-helped-espn-pundit-slams-25-year-old-Chelsea-man-for-not-bailing-out-tremendous-teammate/

 

[lucio 5,418]

8 hours ago, YorkshireBlue said:

First goal yes, was his fuck up, second goal was a defensive error, your putting it all on the GK because your pissed off! Let's no confuse things here.

2nd goal doesn't happen if sanchez doesn't cause the first. Arsenal weren't even threatening before he gifted them and got their belief back. Without sanchez thats an easy 2-0 win, he almost cost us in the first half coming out like a dumbass too.

[YorkshireBlue 3,277]

1 hour ago, lucio said:

2nd goal doesn't happen if sanchez doesn't cause the first. Arsenal weren't even threatening before he gifted them and got their belief back. Without sanchez thats an easy 2-0 win, he almost cost us in the first half coming out like a dumbass too.

A goalkeepers mistake for one goal isn't an excuse for shitty defending for the second.

[lucio 5,418]

1 hour ago, YorkshireBlue said:

A goalkeepers mistake for one goal isn't an excuse for shitty defending for the second.

as i said before, they wouldn't have got the second, or even the first without sanchez being shit. he turned the whole game, were in cruise control before his clown show

[Special Juan 28,141]

Shit show of a keeper, really really poor 

[Mhsc 1,097]

I'm not that fussed about his pass to Rice, a mistake is a mistake and everyone including the world's best make them, but he was poor for the whole game and couldn't find a way to raise his level which is disappointing. Looked like a man that hadn't played in years. Wonder what's going on there? Lacking in confidence? Still adapting to the football?

Unlike some on here I have the feeling there is a really great keeper in him and we just need to be patient. 

[lucio 5,418]

1 minute ago, Mhsc said:

I'm not that fussed about his pass to Rice, a mistake is a mistake and everyone including the world's best make them, but he was poor for the whole game and couldn't find a way to raise his level which is disappointing. Looked like a man that hadn't played in years. Wonder what's going on there? Lacking in confidence? Still adapting to the football?

Unlike some on here I have the feeling there is a really great keeper in him and we just need to be patient. 

He’s just not very good. 

[Mhsc 1,097]

4 minutes ago, lucio said:

He’s just not very good. 

And yet he's been our best player in some games. What I think is fair is to say he's not very consistent - not yet at least.

[lucio 5,418]

7 minutes ago, Mhsc said:

And yet he's been our best player in some games. What I think is fair is to say he's not very consistent - not yet at least.

Petrovic looks like someone with far more potential 

[King Kante 1,643]

4 hours ago, Mhsc said:

I'm not that fussed about his pass to Rice, a mistake is a mistake and everyone including the world's best make them, but he was poor for the whole game and couldn't find a way to raise his level which is disappointing. Looked like a man that hadn't played in years. Wonder what's going on there? Lacking in confidence? Still adapting to the football?

Unlike some on here I have the feeling there is a really great keeper in him and we just need to be patient. 

I think you're giving him a bit too much credit. He is 26 in three weeks, he isn't some kid like Slonia who could blow up if things go perfectly with his development. I appreciate GK's mature later than every other position but he is pretty much at the age where, what you see is what you get. 

For me I have seen enough of him to say he is a B grade David James of a GK. He can pull off wonder saves - that he makes look better because of the way he can fling himself at shots - but he has pretty fundermental weaknesses that means he won't be a type of GK that is going to pick you up hard fought points. By this, I mean he clearly lacks in the following areas; 

1) Concentration (probably James' biggest flaw as well, which is also probably the single most important aspect of being a GK due to the nature of the position.) This goes for both his passing and saving. 

2) Positioning/movement of his feet - he allows too many shots in at the posts (both near and far) as he has the habit of trying to cover his angles quite late - this is also why he makes quite a few 'Superman' saves as has to rely on his reflexes (which are of a high level) to bail him out.  

3) (This is where I rate him as a B grade David James, rather than in the same level) a poor ability to judge the ball from crosses - James also had an issue with this but he was able to use his larger build to go through players better and not end up on the deck so much. 

Then there is the issue that Brighton dropped him for a low level PL GK exactly because of what we have seen. This isn't something new with him, he got dropped for exactly the same reasons and I was saying this when we brought him. 

As I said, I am not going to pile in on the guy, anyone who watched him prior should've known these type of performances where coming. Additionally, as a GK2 I think he is perfectly fine, although way overpriced. 

For me, what happened with his signing was that some people got overly excited about his highlight reel of saves and probably looked at the hard data which highlighted some above average/excellent metrics and thought that there was something the people at Brighton had missed - while failing to appreciate his short comings enough. 

Edited October 23, 2023 by King Kante

[Vegetable 830]

I'm not even mad. He is 2nd or 3rd choice Brighton goalkeeper. It is just what it says on the tin.

Do not blame the guy, blame the board.

I don't even think Poch approved this move really, given his previous comments. It looks like we tried to bribe Brighton to sell us Caicedo, as this kind of player would have hard time to come here, given there is no horrid injury to our GK roster or something.

Thing is, that shaky or okay-ish gk with occasional patches of overperformance is just not good enough on Chelsea level. I think the club have binned Mendy for pretty much this rason.

Edited October 23, 2023 by Vegetable

[ZAPHOD2319 4,819]

The momentum definitely shifted after that gift. 

[Fernando 6,585]

49 minutes ago, Vegetable said:

I'm not even mad. He is 2nd or 3rd choice Brighton goalkeeper. It is just what it says on the tin.

Do not blame the guy, blame the board.

I don't even think Poch approved this move really, given his previous comments. It looks like we tried to bribe Brighton to sell us Caicedo, as this kind of player would have hard time to come here, given there is no horrid injury to our GK roster or something.

Thing is, that shaky or okay-ish gk with occasional patches of overperformance is just not good enough on Chelsea level. I think the club have binned Mendy for pretty much this rason.

I think is the new trend. 

Ever since we gone to a goalkeeper that plays from behind. 

If you can name 5 Gk that was wc and playing from behind? 

They are not because the best GK in our history where not high priority for this. Cech was amazing but his ball distribution, I think Sanchez is way better at that. But besides ball distribution Cech was WC. 

Was Peter Smeichel or even Van De Sar great ball distribution? 

I think not and that is something we will have to continue to see, because that trend came with Pep and even then Pep had Valdez, maybe the best GK he had was Nuer, but not many who was good at ball distribution and WC at other areas.