Fulham Broadway 17,313 Posted April 26, 2024 Share Posted April 26, 2024 25 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said: Nunez takes shots from basically anywhere tho while I have rarely seen Jackson attempt to score from outside the box Personally, I doubt Jackson will ever be super clinical. He just does not have it in him . The intuition, the decisiveness, that little bit of arrogance. Does not mean he can not hit a golden season once or twice in his career. But that is a problem many strikers nowadays have. They are asked to do everything. Run the channels, link up play, hold the ball up, and park defensively. Jackson has his uses with his pace and work rate. Ppl like him less than Werner despite being a similar player. But his attitude is often horrific in contrast to ย humble Timo. Morata was probably more talented than both but all three have recorded some of the worst misses in history. Attitude surely plays a huge role here.ย anyway, as many on here have said, Jackson is not the problem per se , it is that he is asked to be the main man which he clearly is not capable of being.ย That, and he doesnt appear to have any neck muscles to head the ball. In itself, not necessarily a problem if he had some redeeming features, as you say shoot on sight. One of our best strikers historically Jimmy Floyd would do whatever he could to avoid heading, but made up for it with lethal shooting and a deadly partner in crime ie Eidur. Prepared to give him a bit more time -age, first PL season etc but fucking hell he's getting as frustrating as Sterling ย Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted April 26, 2024 Share Posted April 26, 2024 ย look at some of these horror misses before we signed him. How bad are our scouts ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted April 26, 2024 Share Posted April 26, 2024 1 hour ago, Fulham Broadway said: That, and he doesnt appear to have any neck muscles to head the ball. In itself, not necessarily a problem if he had some redeeming features, as you say shoot on sight. One of our best strikers historically Jimmy Floyd would do whatever he could to avoid heading, but made up for it with lethal shooting and a deadly partner in crime ie Eidur. Prepared to give him a bit more time -age, first PL season etc but fucking hell he's getting as frustrating as Sterling ย Would also be very nice if we had ANY attacking player capable of heading the football in the roster right now. ๐ Fulham Broadway 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,313 Posted April 26, 2024 Share Posted April 26, 2024 Andy Cole just talking about him on Sky, said he sees a lot of himself in his first season - ''gets into the best positions but cant sort his feet out, but his biggest stumbling block is confidence. Once he gets that he'll start banging them in'' Hard to see it myself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 2,704 Posted April 27, 2024 Share Posted April 27, 2024 15 hours ago, lucio said: ย look at some of these horror misses before we signed him. How bad are our scouts ? Glad you shared this. Half of these aren't even bad misses. The first 40 seconds alone is him taking terrible shots that were not even a half chance. You could make a montage of most strikers taking dumb shots like this.ย Few good saves from the keeper in passes that weren't anywhere near good enough to him.ย And then some horror misses no worse than you'd see from the likes of any other striker.ย ย Everything for him is amplified because it hangs by a thin string here at Chelsea. Plenty of talent and the right tools there. The same numptys that are saying "oh we finally signed a finisher" when the likes of Morata and Lukaku were signed, were the same ones complaining they forgot how to score when they came here.ย Fans don't know shit - and he keeps doing the right things. Its a game of numbers, and they will start sinking in with more than a fucking season of experience. Yet fans here dogpile on him because he is an easy scapegoat after the penalty thing - and you can blame it on attitude and the lot.ย He is a good footballer now even with his flaws and how frustrating he can be. "Finishing can't be learnt" - some of you are easy to pick in terms of who has never played a sport at a decent level.ย Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 2,704 Posted April 27, 2024 Share Posted April 27, 2024 11 hours ago, Fulham Broadway said: Andy Cole just talking about him on Sky, said he sees a lot of himself in his first season - ''gets into the best positions but cant sort his feet out, but his biggest stumbling block is confidence. Once he gets that he'll start banging them in'' Hard to see it myself Andy Cole clearly knows a shit tonne more than this forum.ย I've read weak wrists for goalkeeper, and how it can't be cured. I've read finishing can't be fixed. I've read players being a final product and can't improve after 21.ย Our forum clearly knows everything.ย Fulham Broadway 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted April 27, 2024 Share Posted April 27, 2024 45 minutes ago, Thor said: Glad you shared this. Half of these aren't even bad misses. The first 40 seconds alone is him taking terrible shots that were not even a half chance. You could make a montage of most strikers taking dumb shots like this.ย Few good saves from the keeper in passes that weren't anywhere near good enough to him.ย And then some horror misses no worse than you'd see from the likes of any other striker.ย ย Everything for him is amplified because it hangs by a thin string here at Chelsea. Plenty of talent and the right tools there. The same numptys that are saying "oh we finally signed a finisher" when the likes of Morata and Lukaku were signed, were the same ones complaining they forgot how to score when they came here.ย Fans don't know shit - and he keeps doing the right things. Its a game of numbers, and they will start sinking in with more than a fucking season of experience. Yet fans here dogpile on him because he is an easy scapegoat after the penalty thing - and you can blame it on attitude and the lot.ย He is a good footballer now even with his flaws and how frustrating he can be. "Finishing can't be learnt" - some of you are easy to pick in terms of who has never played a sport at a decent level.ย Massive Cope , heโs rubbishย Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,313 Posted April 27, 2024 Share Posted April 27, 2024 1 hour ago, Thor said: Andy Cole clearly knows a shit tonne more than this forum.ย I've read weak wrists for goalkeeper, and how it can't be cured. I've read finishing can't be fixed. I've read players being a final product and can't improve after 21.ย Our forum clearly knows everything.ย Think Andy Cole is spot on about confidence as well. Osgood used to say the same, As did Bobby Charlton - Cole said that without it the shot is rushed or instantly smashed, once you have confidence you start placing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mhsc 1,097 Posted April 27, 2024 Share Posted April 27, 2024 I am still not worried about NJ. Great buy at ยฃ32m. Imagine how our year would have been if he wasn't in the squad. 22 years old, first season in the premier league, in tough circumstances. Seems like we are quick to give up on players around here. I for one am thrilled we have this guy, he's only going to get better and the worst case scenario for him is he ends up being a rotation option or moved to play out wide as and when someone emerges getting 20+ a season as a main striker, which if it happened would put us in a phenomenal position. NJ, Cole Palmer, Enzo, and Malo Gusto are some of the signings I have a lot of long term faith in. Lavia and Nkunku I would if they were not seriously injured all year. Other than that I feel like we have burnt a lot of money on pretty average players (or worse), but I hope to be proven wrong.ย Thor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kante 1,643 Posted April 27, 2024 Share Posted April 27, 2024 (edited) When we have players like Disasi, Mudryk and Caicedo starting regularly, we have much bigger problems than Jackson.ย For me, Jackson, as Cole says, just needs to get a little more confidence and sort his feet out. For me people are getting too caught up with the finishing. Nico has improved quite a lot with his hold up play and off the ball runs. The chances he got against City last week were a lot down to his own hold-up play/off the ball running. He wasn't doing that at the start of the season - particularly the hold-up play.ย I am not saying he will be great or even good enough long term, however at least we have have actually seen improvements in his game this season and he hasn't even been as bad as some of the other players I have mentioned above.ย Lastly, he has only had two pro seasons playing in the most difficult position on the pitch. If anyone of the 'project' players we've got deserves some slack, it is him.ย Edited April 27, 2024 by King Kante Mhsc, Sir Mikel OBE, Beigl and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Mikel OBE 4,920 Posted April 27, 2024 Share Posted April 27, 2024 1 hour ago, King Kante said: When we have players like Disasi, Mudryk and Caicedo starting regularly, we have much bigger problems than Jackson.ย For me, Jackson, as Cole says, just needs to get a little more confidence and sort his feet out. For me people are getting too caught up with the finishing. Nico has improved quite a lot with his hold up play and off the ball runs. The chances he got against City last week were a lot down to his own hold-up play/off the ball running. He wasn't doing that at the start of the season - particularly the hold-up play.ย I am not saying he will be great or even good enough long term, however at least we have have actually seen improvements in his game this season and he hasn't even been as bad as some of the other players I have mentioned above.ย Lastly, he has only had two pro seasons playing in the most difficult position on the pitch. If anyone of the 'project' players we've got deserves some slack, it is him.ย His all around game has improvedย GREATLY this season. bigbluewillie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Thor 2,704 Posted May 13, 2024 Share Posted May 13, 2024 2 hours ago, Mhsc said: ย I donโt know how he managed to score that header on the weekend.ย ย I was told he has no neck muscles and canโt improve at his age.ย ย Just like Kepa having weak wrist muscles. All these incurable perma wrecked diseases our players carry.ย ย Carry on though. Itโs easy to see whoโs never played sport before lol.ย bluesman2610 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,177 Posted May 13, 2024 Share Posted May 13, 2024 16 minutes ago, Thor said: Just like Kepa having weak wrist muscles. All these incurable perma wrecked diseases our players carry.ย ย Carry on though. Itโs easy to see whoโs never played sport before lol.ย you apparentlyย bigbluewillie and robsblubot 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kante 1,643 Posted May 13, 2024 Share Posted May 13, 2024 35 minutes ago, Thor said: I donโt know how he managed to score that header on the weekend.ย ย I was told he has no neck muscles and canโt improve at his age.ย ย Just like Kepa having weak wrist muscles. All these incurable perma wrecked diseases our players carry.ย ย Carry on though. Itโs easy to see whoโs never played sport before lol.ย Kepa doesn't have weak wrists but mechanically he has a big weakness which is his habit of swinging his hands behind his back before attempting saves - particularly those low down to a corner. That is the reason why he sometimes allows balls to go past his hand after he has got it there. There was a deep dive on this - I think in The Athletic - but it may have been somewhere else.ย Either way, I also like Jackson and have supported him against his critics. However, Kepa is a poor example to make your point with. Ramires, Drogba and Lampard would've been better examples of players who were largely written off by our fan base, only to turn them around.ย robsblubot and Fernando 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 2,704 Posted May 14, 2024 Share Posted May 14, 2024 14 hours ago, Vesper said: you apparentlyย I'll gladly post my sporting credentials on here against yours.ย Not only that, happy to talk around "recurring" injuries and coming back and recording significantly better sprint and vertical jump measurements.ย ย Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,177 Posted May 14, 2024 Share Posted May 14, 2024 24 minutes ago, Thor said: I'll gladly post my sporting credentials on here against yours.ย Not only that, happy to talk around "recurring" injuries and coming back and recording significantly better sprint and vertical jump measurements.ย ย get back to me when Wes Fofana plays a remotely full season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted June 9, 2024 Share Posted June 9, 2024 Apparently he has suffered an ankle sprain and had to be subbed off on Indy duty. Probably nothing serious as long as he recovers fully and does not get thrown back in prematurely but highlights our lack of depth at CF.ย Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfccrost 23 Posted July 27, 2024 Share Posted July 27, 2024 Is he alive? Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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