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6 hours ago, oldportblue said:

 

You're right, Sarri plays better football but I don't think that should necessarily be the number one criteria by which we pick a manager. Poch knows the prem inside out by now and has come really close to winning it on a tight budget. I think he would hit the ground running here and could sign us some nice players ready to compete and dominate in the premier league. Neither has really won anything of note and both are used to playing second/third fiddle to a dominant team in their league but I would choose pochettino based on familiarity with the league, brining through young talent and of course to piss of spurs lol.

Having said all that I would love Sarri here as well and no one really knows which one would do better at Chelsea in the end (although the fact pochettino has manager several years in the premier definitely gives him an advantage imo)

Any good manager can work the Prem out pretty quickly, just look at Conte winning in his first season. For somebody who knows the Prem inside out, Potchettino has made pretty big mistakes when it has mattered most. The game vs us when Leicester won the league was poor management in my opinion. Spurs went awol and completely bottled it. That should and would not happen under a top manager who knows how to motivate his team in the big occasions. In fact, I think motivating the team past the finish line seems to be where Potchettino fails and on more than one occasion. Having said that, he does have positive qualities in terms of building a squad with a mix of youth and established players. Kane has bailed him out in a shit-load of games too which covers up alot of cracks that Spurs can show often.

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I don't know why I just don't feel the Sarri hype. I'd rather have Rafa than him. Like for real, at least Benitez knows the league and won some stuff. 

I mean the guy (Sarri) is 60 years old and won nothing so far. I accept that winning trophies is not an essential criteria, but only in the case of guys like Nagelsmann or Pochettino, who are still young and showed a lot of potential. When you are 60 years old, only coached in Italy and won jack shit, I'm sorry but I cannot get excited about the possibility of having you as the new manager. He sacrificed Europa League this season, he didn't rotate the squad properly. Not to mention his not so wise comments in the media. I understand that he likes to complain a lot and has kind of a filthy mouth. Exactly what we need, isn't it? 

I agree that Napoli had to deal with a huge Juve team during the Sarri era, but except for Juve there was no one really powerful there. They had plenty of cash, stability and support from the board. They didn't sell players easily like Roma had to. Sarri had a lot of things going his way. I do not agree with the fact that he's done wonders. He did a good job but that's about it. Bottom line is that he won nothing with them and I can't really say that they have too much of a future. A lot of guys reached their limits and will probably go. 

And if the spectacular football is his arguement, then why not go for Simeone Inzaghi, who actually manages this season's most spectacular Serie A team? 

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5 hours ago, Sideshow Luiz said:

Didn't he manage Chile when we were interested?  

Conte was managing Italy, Sarri is managing Napoli.  Poch is managing Tottenham.  Jardim is managing Monaco.  Having a current job, doesn't really seem to be a hindrance to us being interested in a candidate.  

I agree but he's not going to enter into discussions with us this close to the world cup. At least with conte it was sorted out months before the euros.

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10 hours ago, DDA said:

Any good manager can work the Prem out pretty quickly, just look at Conte winning in his first season. For somebody who knows the Prem inside out, Potchettino has made pretty big mistakes when it has mattered most. The game vs us when Leicester won the league was poor management in my opinion. Spurs went awol and completely bottled it. That should and would not happen under a top manager who knows how to motivate his team in the big occasions. In fact, I think motivating the team past the finish line seems to be where Potchettino fails and on more than one occasion. Having said that, he does have positive qualities in terms of building a squad with a mix of youth and established players. Kane has bailed him out in a shit-load of games too which covers up alot of cracks that Spurs can show often.

Now that I think of it, Carlo won it during his first season with us in the premier league too but others have failed spectacularly as well (Scolari, AVB) so maybe that isn't the most important factor but it still plays in Pochettino's favour. As to Spurs bottling, they are eternal bottlers and I think that they'd be bottlers even with pep or zidane lol. Sarri is great too, would be happy with any of Poch, Sarri or Jardim.

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11 hours ago, Cosmin said:

I don't know why I just don't feel the Sarri hype. I'd rather have Rafa than him. Like for real, at least Benitez knows the league and won some stuff. 

I mean the guy (Sarri) is 60 years old and won nothing so far. I accept that winning trophies is not an essential criteria, but only in the case of guys like Nagelsmann or Pochettino, who are still young and showed a lot of potential. When you are 60 years old, only coached in Italy and won jack shit, I'm sorry but I cannot get excited about the possibility of having you as the new manager. He sacrificed Europa League this season, he didn't rotate the squad properly. Not to mention his not so wise comments in the media. I understand that he likes to complain a lot and has kind of a filthy mouth. Exactly what we need, isn't it? 

I agree that Napoli had to deal with a huge Juve team during the Sarri era, but except for Juve there was no one really powerful there. They had plenty of cash, stability and support from the board. They didn't sell players easily like Roma had to. Sarri had a lot of things going his way. I do not agree with the fact that he's done wonders. He did a good job but that's about it. Bottom line is that he won nothing with them and I can't really say that they have too much of a future. A lot of guys reached their limits and will probably go. 

And if the spectacular football is his arguement, then why not go for Simeone Inzaghi, who actually manages this season's most spectacular Serie A team? 

Sorry but this either shows you have a lack of knowledge about Sarri or overrated Rafa. 

 

Napoli were 5th when Rafa left them. Sarri has made them title contenders and actually gave Man City a run for their money In UCL. He's made average players turn into amazing players. 

 

Rafa has done nothing at big clubs. And his clubs have no identity. Still don't understand why anyone would prefer Rafa over Sarri. 

 

He has won nothing in a league where titles are decided already on the first day of the season. It's Juve there and Bayern in Germany. The fact that he gave Juve so much challenge repeatedly every single year there, and playing the best Build Up game in Europe is nothing less than spectacular.

Also, you say that except for Juve, no one else is powerful there.. So what's the point then? Cause his team have been beaten by ONLY Juve in the standings.

 

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34 minutes ago, 11Drogba said:

Who will be the  manager next season? Which players are we going to sign? Will Hazard sign an extension? Until we know the answers TC will be like

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Be more like this I think

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On 18.05.2018 at 7:25 PM, AK-3001 said:

Sorry but this either shows you have a lack of knowledge about Sarri or overrated Rafa. 

 

Napoli were 5th when Rafa left them. Sarri has made them title contenders and actually gave Man City a run for their money In UCL. He's made average players turn into amazing players. 

 

Rafa has done nothing at big clubs. And his clubs have no identity. Still don't understand why anyone would prefer Rafa over Sarri. 

 

He has won nothing in a league where titles are decided already on the first day of the season. It's Juve there and Bayern in Germany. The fact that he gave Juve so much challenge repeatedly every single year there, and playing the best Build Up game in Europe is nothing less than spectacular.

Also, you say that except for Juve, no one else is powerful there.. So what's the point then? Cause his team have been beaten by ONLY Juve in the standings.

 

I am sorry too, but are you serious?

Even if my point was not "let's go for Benitez", I'm going to argue that Rafael Benitez won the UCL trophy with a Liverpool team which no one gave a chance. Maybe you are too young and do not remember.  He also got them the European Supercup. 

He won two La Liga trophies with Valencia. He also won us the Europa League, maybe you remember that. He managed to promote Newcastle back to the Premier League and even if he had to stick with the same players, didn't get relegated and actually finished on a decent position. So he turned a Championship bunch of players into 10th place Premier League players. What about that for improvement? You think that's little? I think it's more than what Sarri did and will ever do. I respect the man, but he's 59 years old and his biggest achievement so far is that  he managed to create a spectacular Napoli team.

Spectacular, I agree, but bottom line is he won them nothing. I can name at least 10 managers who turned average players into good ones, but that's not really what Chelsea does is it? Sarri doesn't rotate, he complains just as much as Conte, he has a filthy mouth and no experience whatsover outside of Italy. Why should I want him as our manager? Yes, I stick to my point there's not much that his team has only been beaten by only Juve in the standings. So was Spaletti's Roma one season before and now he's done a great job at Inter as well, assuming he takes them to the Champions League. Why shouldn't we sign him up too? Or Simeone Inzaghi. Look at how he improved plenty of Lazio's players. Look at Immobile or Milinkovic-Savic.

I think Napoli's fans' enthusiasm created an unrealistic hype behind that team and behind Sarri. What he did was ok, but not nearly as impressive as a lot of people are making it look like. I cannot see any reason why he'd be a good option for Chelsea at this point. I'd take Jardim over him in a heartbeat. The man won Monaco the League over PSG (!) and took them to the Champions League semifinals. During the same season. He did that with Bakayoko (what about him for an average player?), Falcao and Germain. He is the one who gave Mbappe the chance to play when he was only 16 years old. Now that's what I call impressive and I think that's what Chelsea needs.

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Granoskaia ‘not convinced’ by manager demands, so Abramovich picks new Chelsea option

‘The demands of Luis Enrique have not convinced Marina Granoskaia’, say Sport, and Chelsea’s Russian owner has subsequently decided Jardim is the man.

 

http://sportwitness.co.uk/granoskaia-not-convinced-manager-demands-abramovich-picks-new-chelsea-option/

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So what would Jardim be like with us?

Lets hope some decision is anounced asap after the match.

Instead of Arseholes read Chelsea

Why Arsenal should consider Leonardo Jardim as manager

https://playingfor90.com/2018/03/16/arsenal-consider-leonardo-jardim-manager/

Tactical Philosophy: Leonardo Jardim

http://outsideoftheboot.com/2017/09/19/tactical-philosophy-leonardo-jardim/

 

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so the latest news is jardim stays at monaco and sarri wants to leave napoli? i could swear their situations change and flip each day...

hope roman’s people can make one of these happen even while roman is locked out of UK with visa issues...


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