Blusan Alamb 295 Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 1 hour ago, Tomo said: Does it make more sense though? Keeping Conte may look relatively risk free by comparison to other appointments on the face of it, but scratching the surface keeping him is probably the biggest risk we can take and all the evidence suggests it just simply isn't a risk worth taking. In Fact the arguments for keeping Conte and not appointing Sarri are alarmingly similar to the arguments that we should have kept Jose and not risked it with Conte, your first points were made numerous times in Jose's defense when his days looked numbered. How many times at Chelsea or any club has things stagnated like they have with us and it got better again? City gave Pellegrini a chance to rectify a miserable title defense and they got even worse. Milan started well under Allegri, gave him ample chance to turn things round when things went stale, but they got worse. I can't think of one example of a manager who was great at the start, but things stagnated then got better again and given the history of this situation, Conte's stubbornness with his tactics and his constant fallings out with players and board members, all the evidence points to us getting worse if we keep him, not better. He has basically replicated Wengers spell at Arsenal in two years (and skipping the 4th place finishes), first season he revolutionised the club and changed the way English teams play and approach things (like Wenger did in his Highbury days) then this season he has got caught up and overtook, just simply didn't have another reaction up his sleeve and has been left trailing his wake but had an FA Cup to get him out of jail (just like Wenger of 2014 onwards). The reality is we will likely get worse if we keep Conte and we need to act before things seriously stagnate. I thank him for that amazing 16/17 season (it was genuinely up there with the back to back titles in terms of the sheer confidence i had in us) but the milk has gone stale. Now onto the point with Sarri, yes he is a risk but he is a calculated one. Also judging managers on previous silverware is a bit of a moot points these days considering the two most decorated managers available are Ancelotti and Wenger, one gets repeatedly fired at top clubs for the same flaws and the other well enough said. He may have won nothing yet but he has shown he can get teams competing playing great football on a short budget. We aren't as brassic as Conte and some of his apologists try and make out but we certainly are not competing with the Manchester clubs in the market any time soon. Conte has made it abundantly clear he isn't having that, Sarri is a big believer in developing players, the same way we are trying to play down the ability of some of our players playing in a system of Sarri's, Napoli fans were laughing hysterically at the thought of Koulibaly being made into a composed ball playing CB back in 2015. Appointing ready made managers for a title or two worked for a while, but if were looking at competing in the long run, we need to get a style implemented for two key reasons. 1. The high pressing, all energy attacking style is becoming the way to go in the modern game just like the solid shape and counter was in the 00's. Despite finishing second United are looking in serious trouble and with the famous Mou third season coming up and all other top 6 having progressive managers next season, would you bet against them falling back down to 6th? or worse if he hysterically has another 15/16. 2. Our academy sides play the type of game Sarri does. At the minute the disconnection between the first team and the academy in terms of play style is alarming, someone like Sarri coming in and bridging that gap will surely help in terms of the best youngsters progressing to the first team. The Academy is the one thing we have over the clubs that are/can spend more money than us, and at some point we have to make it count. Even if Sarri last for two years and wins nothing, there's every chance he could still be key in transitioning us into a wonderful new era and for me he is absolutely worth the gamble. 9 Nah! That would be horrible for us. We will lose our fear factor and become a club like Arsenal/Spurs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 Just now, Blusan Alamb said: Nah! That would be horrible for us. We will lose our fear factor and become a club like Arsenal/Spurs Not necessarily, City won one league cup in three years and never lost their's. Arsenal have won 3 FA Cups in 4 years yet no one's scared of them. The fact is, there's is no guarantee we will win anything even if we go for the "safe" option. oldportblue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zekinjo 449 Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 Thanks Maurizio for everything blah blah blah, you did an amazin job blah blah. Thanks Maurizio. Blah Costa19 and Mufassir08 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costa19 858 Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 https://mobile.twitter.com/ADeLaurentiis/status/999319823686492161 Can someone help me with Google translate? Im on my phone. I think ADL says thank you and byebye to Sarri. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blusan Alamb 295 Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 1 minute ago, Tomo said: Not necessarily, City won one league cup in three years and never lost their's. Arsenal have won 3 FA Cups in 4 years yet no one's scared of them. The fact is, there's is no guarantee we will win anything even if we go for the "safe" option. City are feared more for their financial power. Arsenal, on the other hand, have not won major trophies for a long time. But they have been playing attractive football for many years. There is no guarantee, but our record with attacking coaches is not that great. I fear that Sarri could end like AVB or Scolari. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superblue 6,372 Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 9 minutes ago, Blusan Alamb said: Nah! That would be horrible for us. We will lose our fear factor and become a club like Arsenal/Spurs We've papered over cracks for years (very successfully mind). However teams have caught us up having built a much stronger and stable long term project compared to our boom or bust mentality. We're also not the big fish anymore with regards to transfer fees and wages. We're still very much competitive, but we've reigned it in just at the time when transfers are escalating and teams are throwing more money around. Something will inevitably give eventually unless we put some solid foundations in with an eye on the next 5 years, not just this year. DYC., Fernando and Tomo 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blusan Alamb 295 Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 3 minutes ago, Costa19 said: https://mobile.twitter.com/ADeLaurentiis/status/999319823686492161 Can someone help me with Google translate? Im on my phone. I think ADL says thank you and byebye to Sarri. Thank Maurizio Sarri for his precious dedication to football Napoli that has allowed to give to the city and the Blue fans worldwide prestige and emotions, creating a model of play admired everywhere and by anyone. Bravo Maurizio. -Bing Costa19 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costa19 858 Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 https://mobile.twitter.com/rhilinde/status/999322622478385152 !Hazard! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Unionjack 7,531 Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 10 minutes ago, Blusan Alamb said: City are feared more for their financial power. Arsenal, on the other hand, have not won major trophies for a long time. But they have been playing attractive football for many years. There is no guarantee, but our record with attacking coaches is not that great. I fear that Sarri could end like AVB or Scolari. Maybe but we have the foundations of a very good defence. Tho I would still prefer a upgrade for Cahill/Andreas. Emerson Rudi Koulibali Dave That would be a strong defence to go with Sarri giving a good attack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,531 Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 1 hour ago, Tomo said: 2. Our academy sides play the type of game Sarri does. At the minute the disconnection between the first team and the academy in terms of play style is alarming, someone like Sarri coming in and bridging that gap will surely help in terms of the best youngsters progressing to the first team. The Academy is the one thing we have over the clubs that are/can spend more money than us, and at some point we have to make it count. Amazing thinking the 1st team should play like our youth teams. Why not ave alot of time and money and promote Morris? He knows English football, the clyb and players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akgw13 867 Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 9 minutes ago, Unionjack said: Amazing thinking the 1st team should play like our youth teams. Why not ave alot of time and money and promote Morris? He knows English football, the clyb and players. Cause he is not ready, in a few years maybe. but U18 to First team is too drastic a jump. Start getting him ready now with Lampard on the staff for the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesman2610 1,417 Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 its official and it looks like no buy out clause was triggered - if so then we only have to pay out Conte and start the Sarri ball evolution DDA 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 7 minutes ago, bluesman2610 said: its official and it looks like no buy out clause was triggered - if so then we only have to pay out Conte and start the Sarri ball evolution Links? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,570 Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 why sarri even wants to leave napoli? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akgw13 867 Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 Just now, xPetrCechx said: why sarri even wants to leave napoli? More Money in the PL, bigger stage, More talented roster/youth system, More willing to supplement the squad than ADL. xPetrCechx 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superblue 6,372 Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 Just now, xPetrCechx said: why sarri even wants to leave napoli? Probably feels he can't take Napoli any further given the strength of juventus and he may likely lose a couple of his players this summer. xPetrCechx 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesman2610 1,417 Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 31 minutes ago, Fernando said: Links? https://www.calciomercato.com/en/news/aurelio-de-laurentiis-thanks-maurizio-sarri-as-manager-leaves-na-80049 doesn't talk about the clause but if hes been sacked and replaced with Carlo can be the main conclusion no? Fernando 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesman2610 1,417 Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 1 minute ago, iceboy said: King Carlo signed 3 year contract with Napoli. and he helps Chelsea all over again Unionjack and Sideshow Luiz 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ledg 643 Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 16 minutes ago, xPetrCechx said: why sarri even wants to leave napoli? Well, according to Napoli fans he fears he will lose a lot of key-players in the summer, and ADL doesn't want to splash the clash. Sounds familiar? xPetrCechx and Unionjack 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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