The Next Manager?

[Unionjack 7,531]

26 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said:

has shown the club in a bad light

Not like Mou then with his war with the media,players,refs,managers and not to mention female medical staff lol

I like Conte and if all the player shite had not happened i would have wanted him to stay. But I think maybe too much water has flown under The Bridge

It would be about right if all these weeks of Sarri links and headlines turned into nothing bit a bag of shite!

 

[Laylabelle 9,351]

Probably.. For now rumours are just rumours. Wheoer papers feel like linking us with on the day

[Tomo 21,733]

1 hour ago, DDA said:

Whoever comes here is inevitably going to get the sack. Even if they win the CL they will get sacked. It is what it is. I'm starting to make my peace with it. 

I don't see why that's a bad thing should it go that way, yes in an ideal world we will find our own Fergie but our sharpness in making changes when they aren't working is the next best thing and has probably won us half our trophys, if not more. You only need to look at Arsenal to see what damage clinging onto a manager due to past glory can do or look at United to see what clinging onto to manager's due to a misguided idea of stability can do. It may on the face of it be harsh sacking managers a year after a title win, but like with Carlo and Jose before him, all the evidence points to us getting worse if we keep Conte, not better, so it's best to get some fresh impotous in before things get really stale.

We may have got a lot of things wrong down the years but the hire and fire policy isn't one of them.

[Laylabelle 9,351]

The only problem I see with it and wherever may be the case or not that if I was a manager with a long term or even short term vision I'd be put off by it. You want time to make changes and have a impact not oh look off you go. Like said wherever potential people are put off by it remains to be seen. Just don't see how it can keep going every 2 seasons or so. 

That and cost! Stop giving people long term contacts. 2 years is about right 

[ChelseaFanUK 1,014]

When is Conte back from Italy? I think after that is when we will get some light on whether he is staying or not

[Unionjack 7,531]

41 minutes ago, Tomo said:

I don't see why that's a bad thing should it go that way, yes in an ideal world we will find our own Fergie but our sharpness in making changes when they aren't working is the next best thing and has probably won us half our trophys, if not more. You only need to look at Arsenal to see what damage clinging onto a manager due to past glory can do or look at United to see what clinging onto to manager's due to a misguided idea of stability can do. It may on the face of it be harsh sacking managers a year after a title win, but like with Carlo and Jose before him, all the evidence points to us getting worse if we keep Conte, not better, so it's best to get some fresh impotous in before things get really stale.

We may have got a lot of things wrong down the years but the hire and fire policy isn't one of them.

Thats one hellova great attraction to offer potential managers

To be very honest I havent got a clue why any decent manager would eben want to come here. They must talk to our ex managers who cant give us too good of a rec.

They want to know that the club trusts them and has their back when the shit hits the fan. They want to know their ideas and and opinions are taken seriously.

Would YOU want to manage us if you were good?

[Tomo 21,733]

12 minutes ago, Unionjack said:

Thats one hellova great attraction to offer potential managers

To be very honest I havent got a clue why any decent manager would eben want to come here.

Because it's the ultimate no lose situation which is about as attractive as it gets. They get a big chance of trophy's for the CV and because of the stigma created about Roman they get next to no blame if things go wrong. Jose left us fighting relegation yet walked into one of the biggest job in football. If he fucks up even half as badly with United his top level career will be over.

I wish i could find a similar job were i will be portrayed as a genius if i do well and have no risk of damaging my reputation if i don't.

[Superblue 6,370]

1 hour ago, Tomo said:

I don't see why that's a bad thing should it go that way, yes in an ideal world we will find our own Fergie but our sharpness in making changes when they aren't working is the next best thing and has probably won us half our trophys, if not more. You only need to look at Arsenal to see what damage clinging onto a manager due to past glory can do or look at United to see what clinging onto to manager's due to a misguided idea of stability can do. It may on the face of it be harsh sacking managers a year after a title win, but like with Carlo and Jose before him, all the evidence points to us getting worse if we keep Conte, not better, so it's best to get some fresh impotous in before things get really stale.

We may have got a lot of things wrong down the years but the hire and fire policy isn't one of them.

I completely agree that this has contributed to our success down the years but I do also think that some patience and stability will be needed with the next appointment, assuming it is a more offensive minded coach, because the change in philosophy will be so drastic. 

Di Matteo, Benitez, Mourinho, Conte - the whole of this squad now has only known one type of way and that is a reserved, defensive approach as the priority. If we were to get someone like Sarri it will take time, a lot of time. Klopp and Poch have been around for 4 years now with nothing tangible yet to show for their troubles and Guardiola took a full season and huge amounts of money to get things going at City.

The days of Fergie and Wenger are gone, but being prepared to ride through some rough times and give a manager 3 - 4 years to get a style of football ingrained into the players, and leave a solid foundation for the next coach is necessary. 

[Costa19 858]

10 minutes ago, Tomo said:

Because it's the ultimate no lose situation which is about as attractive as it gets. They get a big chance of trophy's for the CV and because of the stigma created about Roman they get next to no blame if things go wrong. Jose left us fighting relegation yet walked into one of the biggest job in football. If he fucks up even half as badly with United his top level career will be over.

I wish i could find a similar job were i will be portrayed as a genius if i do well and have no risk of damaging my reputation if i don't.

And earn them BIG bucks at the same time 

[Clockwork 1,794]

2 hours ago, OneMoSalah said:

 

Hes done a decent job with Fulham but I think his name being mentioned means we are literally scraping the bottle of the barrel to get a manager imo.

Chelsea is still an elite club, many of top managers would job on board easily. 

If they go with Jokanovic, it surely means they believe in him and is a good fit.

Conte(Juve), Sarri(Napoli), Simeone(Atletico), Zidane(Madird), and Guardiola(Barcelona) were coaching at 2nd tier leagues before they become a known commodity at those clubs. 

 

[Tomo 21,733]

2 minutes ago, Superblue_1986 said:

I completely agree that this has contributed to our success down the years but I do also think that some patience and stability will be needed with the next appointment, assuming it is a more offensive minded coach, because the change in philosophy will be so drastic. 

Di Matteo, Benitez, Mourinho, Conte - the whole of this squad now has only known one type of way and that is a reserved, defensive approach as the priority. If we were to get someone like Sarri it will take time, a lot of time. Klopp and Poch have been around for 4 years now with nothing tangible yet to show for their troubles and Guardiola took a full season and huge amounts of money to get things going at City.

The days of Fergie and Wenger are gone, but being prepared to ride through some rough times and give a manager 3 - 4 years to get a style of football ingrained into the players, and leave a solid foundation for the next coach is necessary. 

I agree to a point. I will be on board with them getting time but they also need to earn it and show positive evidence that patince will be rewarded.

If our new manager has a season akin to Klopp's first season at Liverpool then i will happily give them all the time in the world, but if they have similar results and performances to Moyes at United i will be very vocal about wanting him gone before Christmas.

[Unionjack 7,531]

2 minutes ago, Tomo said:

Because it's the ultimate no lose situation which is about as attractive as it gets. They get a big chance of trophy's for the CV and because of the stigma created about Roman next to no blame if things go wrong, Jose left us fighting relegation yet walked into one of the biggest job in football, if he fucks up even half as badly woth United his top level career will be over.

I wish i could find a similar job were i will be portrayed as a genius if i do well and have no risk of damaging my reputation if i don't.

so a nobody Fulham bloke will have what it takes to take us to a different lebel?

Thats the level of manager we are now having to look at. We will amost be as bad as that north london club soon. I cant see anyone with any sense looking twice at us. Goes for players too. It all goes to the fact we cant attract top names not even if we did try to throw money at them.

Its wht we bought wonkey donkeys. All the good players we tried for gad a good giggle.MOST peiople like stability.

Roman likes yesmen. IF hes going gos for this Fulham bloke its going to be a comedy. Hes not going to give him  a PL and FA Cup in 2 years i

 I know I should be used to it by now but uts hard to deal with.

Might as well just put  managers and players on a 1 year renewable performance based wage.

[Tomo 21,733]

1 minute ago, Unionjack said:

so a nobody Fulham bloke will have what it takes to take us to a different lebel?

Thats the level of manager we are now having to look at. We will amost be as bad as that north london club soon. I cant see anyone with any sense looking twice at us. Goes for players too. It all goes to the fact we cant attract top names not even if we did try to throw money at them.

Its wht we bought wonkey donkeys. All the good players we tried for gad a good giggle.MOST peiople like stability.

Roman likes yesmen. IF hes going gos for this Fulham bloke its going to be a comedy. Hes not going to give him  a PL and FA Cup in 2 years i

 I know I should be used to it by now but uts hard to deal with.

Might as well just put  managers and players on a 1 year renewable performance based wage.

Conte, Simeone, Zidane and Pep were all in similar situations to Jokanovic when they got there big break. Not that he's my number 1 choice but just putting it out there.

[Unionjack 7,531]

4 minutes ago, Tomo said:

Conte, Simeone, Zidane and Pep were all in similar situations to Jokanovic when they got there big break. Not that he's my number 1 choice but just putting it out there.

I really dont give a toss about other clubs. I just dont want us to be the club he uses to practice on. But never mind we can have this same chat next summer mate

Slaviša Jokanović Tactics

http://outsideoftheboot.com/2017/05/13/tactical-philosophy-slavisa-jokanovic/

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[Superblue 6,370]

1 hour ago, Tomo said:

I agree to a point. I will be on board with them getting time but they also need to earn it and show positive evidence that patince will be rewarded.

If our new manager has a season akin to Klopp's first season at Liverpool then i will happily give them all the time in the world, but if they have similar results and performances to Moyes at United i will be very vocal about wanting him gone before Christmas.

Definitely there has to be signs of progression. 

If there is a season however fighting for 4th place and we just scrape it or even just miss out but it can be seen that the style of play is evolving and improving and the brand of football is enjoyable to watch then i would like to hope they would be given the benefit of the doubt to continue.

[Sideshow Luiz 2,310]

55 minutes ago, Superblue_1986 said:

Definitely there has to be signs of progression. 

If there is a season however fighting for 4th place and we just scrape it or even just miss out but it can be seen that the style of play is evolving and improving and the brand of football is enjoyable to watch then i would like to hope they would be given the benefit of the doubt to continue.

That's what I've been saying.  2 years out of the last 3 we've missed out on CL football, I can live with that (for a bit).  But, the dreadful football that we played wasn't worth the cost.  If there were signs of progressive football, it would make missing out on the Top 4 palatable.  The problem with defensive, negative (pragmatic) football, is that if you aren't winning or at least competing, it's hard to swallow.  It's trophy or nothing, the cost is too high if there is no silverware.

 

[Unionjack 7,531]

No offers from Chelsea or Zenit, says Sarri's agent

Maurizio Sarri's agent Alessandro Pellegrini dismissed speculation regarding the in-demand Napoli boss.

https://www.sportskeeda.com/football/no-offers-from-chelsea-or-zenit-says-sarri-s-agent?utm_source=feed&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=sportskeeda

SO!!!! Has it all bee just a load of oild bollox dreamed up by the luvly media and driven along by blood thirsty supporters???

[Ledg 638]

No offers from Chelsea or Zenit, says Sarri's agent
Maurizio Sarri's agent Alessandro Pellegrini dismissed speculation regarding the in-demand Napoli boss.
https://www.sportskeeda.com/football/no-offers-from-chelsea-or-zenit-says-sarri-s-agent?utm_source=feed&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=sportskeeda
SO!!!! Has it all bee just a load of oild bollox dreamed up by the luvly media and driven along by blood thirsty supporters???

Could be, or just his agent doesn’t want to spill the beans.

But until an official announcement or at least picture of the new manager at Cobham, I won’t look too much into rumors.

The media was certain Artera will be the new manager of Arsenal.. and suddenly it’s Emery and that came from Arsenal’s spokesman basically.

Atm, lot of things are kept in the dark in our club, even to people like Matt Law who seem to have some inside information.

I’m more surprised, there haven’t been any talks about the next DOF since Emenalo departure tbh. Wouldn’t be more logical to appoint a DOF first, then a manager and then to think about the squad? I guess we’re doing things backwards.


The club have their work cut out for them with the short summer this year.


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