The Next Manager?

[KevinAshburner 1,270]

I wonder how things would've planned out for Chelsea FC if Roman Abramovich chose to stay with AVB as manager for many years.

 

 

[milka 3,393]

 

[Fernando 6,585]

4 hours ago, milka said:

 

Same shenanigans every two seasons. 

We don't stick with philosophies. 

[the wes 7,212]

Former Borussia Dortmund manager Thomas Tuchel will replace Unai Emery as Paris St-Germain boss next season. (ESPN)

[Sideshow Luiz 2,310]

I've been thinking of this "philosophy" situation.  I've often raged about our lack of "philosophy".  But, I kind of realized that we have/had one.  It was instilled by Mourinho.  Look at the squad after he left.  Same kind of players, in fact, most of his squad have stuck around until these past couple of seasons.  It's why when things go bad, we always revert to pragmatism and defending deep and "suffering without the ball".  The problem now, is that we don't have any leaders in the team, like those days.  So, it doesn't work.

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for a NEW philosophy.  And I think the club want that too.  Campos and Jardim would definitely be a step in the right direction (though AVB was supposed to be the start of a new philosophy too).

[Superblue 6,372]

4 minutes ago, Sideshow Luiz said:

I've been thinking of this "philosophy" situation.  I've often raged about our lack of "philosophy".  But, I kind of realized that we have/had one.  It was instilled by Mourinho.  Look at the squad after he left.  Same kind of players, in fact, most of his squad have stuck around until these past couple of seasons.  It's why when things go bad, we always revert to pragmatism and defending deep and "suffering without the ball".  The problem now, is that we don't have any leaders in the team, like those days.  So, it doesn't work.

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for a NEW philosophy.  And I think the club want that too.  Campos and Jardim would definitely be a step in the right direction (though AVB was supposed to be the start of a new philosophy too).

Exactly, our philosophy has been built on a strong, imposing team that can intimidate and bully opponents into submission. Rock solid defence, powerful midfielders and a battering ram striker, with a touch of class and creativity.

And we proved over the last 13 years or so it was the best possible philosophy for us to adopt because we've been the most successful English team in this time and even the great Barcelona team were fearful of us.

For me though that philosophy and style has become dated in a new era where teams are willing to attach and press teams higher and more aggressively. I don't think its a coincidence that we've struggled this season, as to have United (given the money they've spent, expectations and frankly drab and dire performances). Styles, tactics, etc go in and out of fashion through time. In that period most teams would operate with one striker and two wide men. Now 2 strikers can be far more common in a more traditional 4-4-2. And it does feel like we seem stuck in the past a little and need re-booting.

Also as you alluded to the personnel we have now compared to back then makes our style even more difficult to work. The players we had at our best fitted like a glove - Cech, Terry, Carvalho, Cole, Makelele, Essien, Ballack, Lampard, Drogba. They were players that were vastly experienced and huge characters. 

[the wes 7,212]

Chelsea have lost patience with Luis Enrique, report Sport, and are looking towards other candidates for their expected managerial vacancy.

http://sportwitness.co.uk/abramovich-lost-patience-granovskaia-practically-closed-agreement-chelsea/

[milka 3,393]

Massimiliano Allegri is keen to remain at Juventus and snub a move to Chelsea as he wants to coach a Champions League club next season. (TS) #CFC

Thomas Tuchel has chosen PSG over Chelsea, according to ESPN.

 

[zekinjo 449]

 

[kobematabryant 400]

We should consider Vahid Halilhodzic,  he should be available after the World Cup. 

 

[quickpassnmove 924]

there is no next 'big' manager for CFC. 

more incoherent action, lack of vision.

watch something else.

[BlueLyon 9,359]

On 6. 4. 2018 at 2:44 AM, Sideshow Luiz said:

I've been thinking of this "philosophy" situation.  I've often raged about our lack of "philosophy".  But, I kind of realized that we have/had one.  It was instilled by Mourinho.  Look at the squad after he left.  Same kind of players, in fact, most of his squad have stuck around until these past couple of seasons.  It's why when things go bad, we always revert to pragmatism and defending deep and "suffering without the ball".  The problem now, is that we don't have any leaders in the team, like those days.  So, it doesn't work.

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for a NEW philosophy.  And I think the club want that too.  Campos and Jardim would definitely be a step in the right direction (though AVB was supposed to be the start of a new philosophy too).

Would Campos be that man though? Sure he is a quality talent spotter, but for that to work, we would need to give those talents a chance.

And he worked in Monaco, who made great great profit during his time. Obviously Monaco is a selling club, so it makes sense, but Chelsea isnt. We need director who is capable of building a strong team out of good established players and young talents, plus being able to sell that idea to players, so that we are attractive.

Ocampos on other hand excelled in bringing young talents and then sell them for big bucks.

Plus Lille is doing absolutely awful though right now, their idea of bulding competitve team for future fell apart like house of cards.

Not sure thats is comparable with lets say Txiki who was in control of shaping Barcelona into powerhouse or Peter Kenyon who did the same in United before coming here.

We need someone with experience, thats what we lack big time. We need Guardiola type of technical director, not AVB.

[Sideshow Luiz 2,310]

36 minutes ago, BlueLyon said:

Would Campos be that man though? Sure he is a quality talent spotter, but for that to work, we would need to give those talents a chance.

And he worked in Monaco, who made great great profit during his time. Obviously Monaco is a selling club, so it makes sense, but Chelsea isnt. We need director who is capable of building a strong team out of good established players and young talents, plus being able to sell that idea to players, so that we are attractive.

Ocampos on other hand excelled in bringing young talents and then sell them for big bucks.

Plus Lille is doing absolutely awful though right now, their idea of bulding competitve team for future fell apart like house of cards.

Not sure thats is comparable with lets say Txiki who was in control of shaping Barcelona into powerhouse or Peter Kenyon who did the same in United before coming here.

We need someone with experience, thats what we lack big time. We need Guardiola type of technical director, not AVB.

We're not a selling club, but we're kind of a net spend 0 club, right now.

When teams have lots of money to spend the expensive players make the headlines, but really, the big advantage is that you can afford to miss on a target.  Don't like your England International?  Get Bravo for 30M.  Didn't work out?  Drop another 30 on Eduardo. 

When you don't spend a lot of money you can't make any mistakes in the market.  We were left exposed by the combined downgrades of Costa -> Morata, and Matic ->Bakayoko.  Spent a net 35M on "upgrading" Chalobah to Drinkwater.  Can safely say that we struck out last summer.  

It seems that Monaco kind of hedge their bets a bit.  They get in lots of talent.  They don't need all of them to work out.  1 or 2 will fund another summer.

Depends on what Roman sees as the identity for the club. 

[BlueLyon 9,359]

3 hours ago, Sideshow Luiz said:

We're not a selling club, but we're kind of a net spend 0 club, right now.

When teams have lots of money to spend the expensive players make the headlines, but really, the big advantage is that you can afford to miss on a target.  Don't like your England International?  Get Bravo for 30M.  Didn't work out?  Drop another 30 on Eduardo. 

When you don't spend a lot of money you can't make any mistakes in the market.  We were left exposed by the combined downgrades of Costa -> Morata, and Matic ->Bakayoko.  Spent a net 35M on "upgrading" Chalobah to Drinkwater.  Can safely say that we struck out last summer.  

It seems that Monaco kind of hedge their bets a bit.  They get in lots of talent.  They don't need all of them to work out.  1 or 2 will fund another summer.

Depends on what Roman sees as the identity for the club. 

In that case we could just keep Emenalo then. 

Our board was crap for a while now, but our scouting was definately more than good.

Salah, Kdb, Lukaku, Christensen, Tibo,...

The problem was in integration and general belief in those players. 

As long as you have Marina, Roman and Conte (or another manager who doesnt get along), SD like Campos is no better than Emenalo. 

We need real authority in board to make decions and stick to them. They pick a manager that suits plan and manager gets part in deals and more trust in return. Only way to click.

[the wes 7,212]

Please not this clown 🙁🙁

[Jase 43,479]

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/apr/08/chelsea-next-manager-luis-enrique-max-allegri-leonardo-jardim-antonio-conte

Guardian ran the rule over Enrique, Allegri and Jardim...

[Laylabelle 9,536]

Whoever it is has a huge job on their hand. Still think offering any contract over 2 years is pointless 

[the wes 7,212]

 

[ChelseaFanUK 1,014]

It'll be Luis Enrique. I'd bet my salary on it.  

[ChelseaFanUK 1,014]

On 4/5/2018 at 4:42 AM, KevinAshburner said:

I wonder how things would've planned out for Chelsea FC if Roman Abramovich chose to stay with AVB as manager for many years.

 

 

It would have ended in a sacking.  It did at Spurs too