The Next Manager?

[Special Juan 28,141]

Wow, some link that

[11Drogba 2,000]

1 hour ago, Tomo said:

Well, he choose to work in the last environment that Conte thought was impossible to work at, and did the exact thing Conte said was impossible to do (do well in the CL).

Juventus was 3 times consecutive champion of Italy when Allegri went there. If he liked instability and challenges so much he would stay at Milan.

Allegri left an unstable club and joined to the best club of Italy.

When Bayern, Real, PSG are looking for a manager I can't say that Chelsea is the best club he can join now. Also he has a contract until 2020 with Juventus.

Allegri coming to Chelsea is a nice fantasy, just like Guardiola was 2 years ago.

[Tomo 21,751]

10 minutes ago, 11Drogba said:

Juventus was 3 times consecutive champion of Italy when Allegri went there. If he liked instability and challenges so much he would stay at Milan.

Allegri left an unstable club and joined to the best club of Italy.

When Bayern, Real, PSG are looking for a manager I can't say that Chelsea is the best club he can join now. Also he has a contract until 2020 with Juventus.

Allegri coming to Chelsea is a nice fantasy, just like Guardiola was 2 years ago.

He was fired for having them in the bottom half, was the main reason Juve fans were so against him.

[11Drogba 2,000]

1 hour ago, Tomo said:

He was fired for having them in the bottom half, was the main reason Juve fans were so against him.

Oh yes, he was fired. So unlike now, he was not under contract when he signed for a new club. Also obviously like most managers he sucks when the board sucks.

Like I said then he joined the strongest and most stable club he could go. No reason for him to join us when Real, PSG, Bayern are looking and he has a contract.

Until a week ago there was a slight possibility for him to get the sack but then Napoli lost and Juve eliminated Spurs. I hope you guys are right and we can get him when Conte is gone but I don't think he would join us.

[Fernando 6,585]

To me it's clear. 

Hazard leaving, Courtois leaving, and Conte leaving. 

Outside of the top 4 as well

We just need a manager that will implement more youth, like Pochetino since we are going to be out of contention with the way the board runs thing. 

 

[Superblue 6,372]

7 hours ago, Fernando said:

To me it's clear. 

Hazard leaving, Courtois leaving, and Conte leaving. 

Outside of the top 4 as well

We just need a manager that will implement more youth, like Pochetino since we are going to be out of contention with the way the board runs thing. 

 

Going back to my post earlier today linking us with Jokanovic. It's a weird link and at first thought it gives the impression of a manager version of our links with Crouch and Carroll. 

But actually when you think about it further, he's actually done a very good job in his roles over the last few years. He finally took Watford back up and was ridiculous how he didn't end up managing them in the Premier League. Took Maccabi into the Champions League group stages for the first time in however many years and has progressed Fulham on ten fold from relegation fodder to one of the favourites for promotion. All of this playing a progressive and 'easy on the eye' style of football and not having a problem giving chances to young players.

Now the jump from these teams to Chelsea is beyond huge, and I'm not suddenly saying he is my first choice or 'the best choice', but with regards to the big name coaches we're being realistically linked with (Enrique, Tuchel, etc) none of them stand out in my opinion compared to previous years when we brought in the likes of Mourinho, Ancelotti and Conte. What I am saying is that a number of clubs have taken a punt on managers which may not appear to be 'elite' down the years and even recently who have gone on to do very well. 

I also get the feeling that the Board are trying to become more patient with managers and create a bit more stability. I think there is a realisation that we no longer have the biggest budget and as a result the strategy needs changing. In years gone by, Mourinho would have gone far earlier than he did, and Conte would also have been gone by now. I think Mourinho could have stayed and survived one poor year if he didn't have such a combustible and controversial personality which makes him unbearable and unreasonable when things are not going well. Conte seems to be very much from the same mould. Again, I think Chelsea would consider keeping Conte on next season, knowing that there is not any better proven managers on the market, even if we didn't make top 4. But his near constant moaning and irritable behaviour and demeanour mean this is very unlikely.

That would actually encourage me more that they bring in a progressive manager that can freshen things up, but also be given time to make that impact. 

[xPetrCechx 13,570]

Pep 

[Fernando 6,585]

16 hours ago, Superblue_1986 said:

Going back to my post earlier today linking us with Jokanovic. It's a weird link and at first thought it gives the impression of a manager version of our links with Crouch and Carroll. 

But actually when you think about it further, he's actually done a very good job in his roles over the last few years. He finally took Watford back up and was ridiculous how he didn't end up managing them in the Premier League. Took Maccabi into the Champions League group stages for the first time in however many years and has progressed Fulham on ten fold from relegation fodder to one of the favourites for promotion. All of this playing a progressive and 'easy on the eye' style of football and not having a problem giving chances to young players.

Now the jump from these teams to Chelsea is beyond huge, and I'm not suddenly saying he is my first choice or 'the best choice', but with regards to the big name coaches we're being realistically linked with (Enrique, Tuchel, etc) none of them stand out in my opinion compared to previous years when we brought in the likes of Mourinho, Ancelotti and Conte. What I am saying is that a number of clubs have taken a punt on managers which may not appear to be 'elite' down the years and even recently who have gone on to do very well. 

I also get the feeling that the Board are trying to become more patient with managers and create a bit more stability. I think there is a realisation that we no longer have the biggest budget and as a result the strategy needs changing. In years gone by, Mourinho would have gone far earlier than he did, and Conte would also have been gone by now. I think Mourinho could have stayed and survived one poor year if he didn't have such a combustible and controversial personality which makes him unbearable and unreasonable when things are not going well. Conte seems to be very much from the same mould. Again, I think Chelsea would consider keeping Conte on next season, knowing that there is not any better proven managers on the market, even if we didn't make top 4. But his near constant moaning and irritable behaviour and demeanour mean this is very unlikely.

That would actually encourage me more that they bring in a progressive manager that can freshen things up, but also be given time to make that impact. 

If we are ever going to give time to anyone I hope it's Lampard. 

To me Lampard is the one person that I would like to gamble on. 

I really want to see him in that role. 

But other than that who is available that is worth taking a shot..... Well sarri is interesting but I don't know. I much rather go all out for pochetino. See if we can convince him to come? 

If not we can try for sampaoli? 

I admit I love Bielsa, he is the teacher of pochetino and sampaoli but like Conte, Bielsa is a manager tough to work with. 

[the wes 7,212]

20 hours ago, Fernando said:

 

I admit I love Bielsa, he is the teacher of pochetino and sampaoli but like Conte, Bielsa is a manager tough to work with. 

Bielsa doesn't have a great CV simeone would be great at Chelsea but I have big doubts that he take the Chelsea job 

[bigbluewillie 1,930]

On 2/25/2018 at 0:10 PM, milka said:

OH fuck NO please, not Louis Van Flatface, I would seriously consider my loyalty to Chelse if this ever happened

[KevinAshburner 1,270]

We Chelsea will have a lot of FUCKING Character and play with a lot of Character with Brendan Rodgers in Charge.

 

 

[11Drogba 2,000]

[Jase 43,479]

8 minutes ago, 11Drogba said:

Just for heck of it...

 

[Shakez 755]

It has to be us or PSG then

Please, make it happen!

[Jase 43,479]

23 minutes ago, Shakez said:

It has to be us or PSG then

Please, make it happen!

Can't wait for people to moan about defensive blunders next season!

[Blue-in-me-Veins 4,067]

2 hours ago, Jason said:

Can't wait for people to moan about defensive blunders next season!

Which manager do you think CFC hire or keep (in that case) ? 

Because right now we’re complaining non existent attacking football. We’re looking at a team that has the worst xG attacking output of the top 6 sides & stale attacking automatisms that most clubs have sussed out. 

The options for CFC as it stands are: Keep Conte, hire Enrique or Tuchel.

All managers have their tactical pros and cons. But it’s all about making the right managerial trade-offs that the club thinks will pay the most dividends in the future. 

 

 

[Tomo 21,751]

9 minutes ago, Blue-in-me-Veins said:

Which manager do you think CFC hire or keep (in that case) ? 

Because right now we’re complaining non existent attacking football. We’re looking at a team that has the worst xG attacking output of the top 6 sides & stale attacking automatisms that most clubs have sussed out. 

The options for CFC as it stands are: Keep Conte, hire Enrique or Tuchel.

All managers have their tactical pros and cons. But it’s all about making the right managerial trade-offs that the club thinks will pay the most dividends in the future. 

 

 

It's got to the point i want us to build a structure going forward. Lets be honest, Pep isn't relinguishing top spot for the forseable future so we might aswell turn that negative into a positive and build a style of play while integrating the young players which in the long run will see us competing if done right. I was happy with the solid shape first, everything else second when it had us amoungst the favorites for major trophies, but if we are going to be an outside bet (which we all are for as long as Pep's here) id rather we started playing attack based football.

[Blue-in-me-Veins 4,067]

17 minutes ago, Tomo said:

It's got to the point i want us to build a structure going forward. Lets be honest, Pep isn't relinguishing top spot for the forseable future so we might aswell turn that negative into a positive and build a style of play while integrating the young players which in the long run will see us competing if done right. I was happy with the solid shape first, everything else second when it had us amoungst the favorites for major trophies, but if we are going to be an outside bet (which we all are for as long as Pep's here) id rather we started playing attack based football.

Ding Ding Ding. 

This is exactly how I and quite a number of CFC fans I know feel like. Being defensively solid + countering to devastating effecg is what’s won us trophies under the Roman Era. But going through a season like this one... where I and many others feel it has been such long-tedious chore just to watch us “play” football—it has a very short life cycle when it isn’t guaranteeing Top 3/4 finishes and no UCL Qtrs. 

And like you said, with Pep pulling a madness for the foreseeable future, why not hire a true project-based/attack-minded manager that may bring a fresh perspective to the club. 

[Mufassir08 2,400]

I'd love for us to get in Leonardo Jardim if Conte does indeed leave. Jardim's record with youth coupled with the fact that he already is used to working with a restrictive budget all the while promoting from within and developing players makes him a very logical option for me. His teams generally are very entertaining as well so there is that plus he has won trophies too which gives him the edge over someone like Sarri.

[Jase 43,479]

7 hours ago, Blue-in-me-Veins said:

Which manager do you think CFC hire or keep (in that case) ? 

Because right now we’re complaining non existent attacking football. We’re looking at a team that has the worst xG attacking output of the top 6 sides & stale attacking automatisms that most clubs have sussed out. 

The options for CFC as it stands are: Keep Conte, hire Enrique or Tuchel.

All managers have their tactical pros and cons. But it’s all about making the right managerial trade-offs that the club thinks will pay the most dividends in the future. 

To be honest, I've no idea who should take over because, there are no genuine, great options out there. You are right in saying all managers have their tactical pros and cons but I prefer to get a manager who can get both side of the game right - defensively and offensively. Would not like to have a manager who can only get one aspect right and then have the other become a genuine problem - like with AVB and Mourinho.