Viper22 2,418 Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 So Pep has said he's coming to England to manage in the PL, but hasn't decided to which club he wants to go yet. Looks like one of us, United or City is getting him in the summer then. As much as I dislike the bloke and think he's overrated, if Simeone isn't available then he'd probably be the 2nd best choice for me and he's evidently the 1st choice for a lot of Chelsea fans. However I doubt very much he'll come here, it'll be too much hard work rebuilding the team and i'm sure he'd much rather go to an ageing team like City who have the best squad in the league with top players at their peaks (Aguero, Silva, Toure etc) where he can win a few domestic trophies and one or two league titles before jumping ship in 3 years time when the team is past it's peak and need rejuvenating. Seems like a ready made job for him. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/35234602 Fulham Broadway and Ossie the King 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,332 Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 23 minutes ago, Viper22 said: So Pep has said he's coming to England to manage in the PL, but hasn't decided to which club he wants to go yet. Looks like one of us, United or City is getting him in the summer then. As much as I dislike the bloke and think he's overrated, if Simeone isn't available then he'd probably be the 2nd best choice for me and he's evidently the 1st choice for a lot of Chelsea fans. However I doubt very much he'll come here, it'll be too much hard work rebuilding the team and i'm sure he'd much rather go to an ageing team like City who have the best squad in the league with top players at their peaks (Aguero, Silva, Toure etc) where he can win a few domestic trophies and one or two league titles before jumping ship in 3 years time when the team is past it's peak and need rejuvenating. Seems like a ready made job for him. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/35234602 Its like all these things, and the same applies to players. A combination of which players he fancies working with, what spending budget he will get, but the real clincher is the money on the table. His agent will be looking at the best contract and percentage for himself. So it comes down to whether Abramovich will offer more than the Glaziers or Citehs arabs and whether they see Guardiola as a worthwhile investment and employee for their business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 46 minutes ago, Viper22 said: So Pep has said he's coming to England to manage in the PL, but hasn't decided to which club he wants to go yet. Looks like one of us, United or City is getting him in the summer then. As much as I dislike the bloke and think he's overrated, if Simeone isn't available then he'd probably be the 2nd best choice for me and he's evidently the 1st choice for a lot of Chelsea fans. However I doubt very much he'll come here, it'll be too much hard work rebuilding the team and i'm sure he'd much rather go to an ageing team like City who have the best squad in the league with top players at their peaks (Aguero, Silva, Toure etc) where he can win a few domestic trophies and one or two league titles before jumping ship in 3 years time when the team is past it's peak and need rejuvenating. Seems like a ready made job for him. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/35234602 He might feel that at CFC he has more of a blank canvas than City or United? Maybe that'll interest him more than others. Who knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Ossie the King 634 Posted January 5, 2016 Popular Post! Share Posted January 5, 2016 3 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said: Its like all these things, and the same applies to players. A combination of which players he fancies working with, what spending budget he will get, but the real clincher is the money on the table. His agent will be looking at the best contract and percentage for himself. So it comes down to whether Abramovich will offer more than the Glaziers or Citehs arabs and whether they see Guardiola as a worthwhile investment and employee for their business. I was 95% certain that he was going to City. I'm still hovering around that mark except he said one thing that made me question it. "I want to experience a new city and I want to work in England" Nobody says they want to 'experience' Manchester. London on the other hand fits in with the mentality of a guy who took a year off to live in New York. I'd like to think money isn't that big a factor (anyone will give him a big contract) but he did play in the Middle East at the end of his career. But who wouldn't. I just think the culture of our club doesn't fit with what he wants. On the other hand I don't think anyone else gets us out of this repeating cycle that we'd be in. He's the only coach Roman would back totally and he'd have a blank cheque to build a new squad. Then again City has been purpose-built for him, but would he feel comfortable displacing Pellegrino? What's clear is that he's Roman's 'white whale' and I don't see us being outbid for his services, and it might spark Roman to make some changes at this club. I'm 5% less certain than I was 30 minutes ago. AWorriedChelseaFan, Fernando, Chelsea Legend 11 and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bababoom 4,478 Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Why would he come to us? we have no CL football and would need to sign about 10 players (according to reports). I pray we get him but just don't see it happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Ossie the King 634 Posted January 5, 2016 Popular Post! Share Posted January 5, 2016 5 minutes ago, James said: Why would he come to us? we have no CL football and would need to sign about 10 players (according to reports). I pray we get him but just don't see it happening. Money London Money Challenge Money The chance to work with Mike Emenalo (alright Mike!) Money A talented squad of loyal, hungry.....actually have some more money Pep. AWorriedChelseaFan, stroey, bababoom and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,944 Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Too much of a project for Pep. He'll go to the easiest job with best squad and brightest future. Just like he did with Bayern. Can't blame him. Simeone will be the best we can hope for. xPetrCechx and Viper22 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,573 Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 He will take the easiest one... City. AWorriedChelseaFan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChelseaFanUK 1,014 Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 We will get Simeone and itll prove to be a better appointment is my bet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 14 minutes ago, Pizy said: Too much of a project for Pep. He'll go to the easiest job with best squad and brightest future. Just like he did with Bayern. Can't blame him. Simeone will be the best we can hope for. Hey. Just because he's done that once doesn't mean he'd do it again. Barcelona's project back when he took over was in no means easy. Unfaur to to say it's "too much of a project". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ossie the King 634 Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 15 minutes ago, Pizy said: Too much of a project for Pep. He'll go to the easiest job with best squad and brightest future. Just like he did with Bayern. Can't blame him. Simeone will be the best we can hope for. You're right that he has a track record of building on strong existing structures at both Barca and Bayern which is why the City job makes absolute sense. Here he'd have to do a complete rebuild. I also wonder if he'd like working within the structure we have or whether he'd look for something more professional. Just that mention of experiencing a new city makes me wonder, maybe he'd do it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's too big 625 Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 43 minutes ago, James said: Why would he come to us? we have no CL football and would need to sign about 10 players (according to reports). I pray we get him but just don't see it happening. One season out of the CL is not big deal. We may still get a CL spot, if not then a Europa place. If he signed a 3-4 year contract and spent the first season building, then the next 2 seasons aims for CL trophy and the EPL to top off a successful campaign here. People put a lot of emphasis and stress on potentially missing out of CL, but it's for one season! I am sure he would be more than happy to focus on winning the EPL next season if he came, and maybe a domestic trophy. Let's be honest, it has taken him 3 seasons at Bayern and he still hasn't won the CL so how will that be different here? The squad would need rebuilding to compete at that level anyway. I hope you don't expect him to come in and have us challenging for the CL straight away. I dunno whether he will come or not, or whether he would be up for a challenge here - only he can decide what he wants. AWorriedChelseaFan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's too big 625 Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 14 minutes ago, ChelseaFanUK said: We will get Simeone and itll prove to be a better appointment is my bet Hope not tbh, he is Mourinho mark 2. I would rather we stuck with Guus Hiddink if he has a successful (relative i know, but successful would be challenging for top 4 or 6) season with us. Kunter 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ossie the King 634 Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 3 minutes ago, It's too big said: Hope not tbh, he is Mourinho mark 2. I would rather we stuck with Guus Hiddink if he has a successful (relative i know, but successful would be challenging for top 4 or 6) season with us. Amazed that is used as a criticism nowadays. Simeone is a great coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 1 hour ago, Ossie the King said: I was 95% certain that he was going to City. I'm still hovering around that mark except he said one thing that made me question it. "I want to experience a new city and I want to work in England" Nobody says they want to 'experience' Manchester. London on the other hand fits in with the mentality of a guy who took a year off to live in New York. I'd like to think money isn't that big a factor (anyone will give him a big contract) but he did play in the Middle East at the end of his career. But who wouldn't. I just think the culture of our club doesn't fit with what he wants. On the other hand I don't think anyone else gets us out of this repeating cycle that we'd be in. He's the only coach Roman would back totally and he'd have a blank cheque to build a new squad. Then again City has been purpose-built for him, but would he feel comfortable displacing Pellegrino? What's clear is that he's Roman's 'white whale' and I don't see us being outbid for his services, and it might spark Roman to make some changes at this club. I'm 5% less certain than I was 30 minutes ago. You got this right out of my brain. Anyways I did found that quote interesting. And just like you it gives me a little hope he might consider London, so that leaves us and Arsenal....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,944 Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 59 minutes ago, The Skipper said: Hey. Just because he's done that once doesn't mean he'd do it again. Barcelona's project back when he took over was in no means easy. Unfaur to to say it's "too much of a project". He had several of the best players who have ever played football at Barca. Sure he had to get them to play together in a system and all that but with the insane array of talent he had at his disposal it wasn't like it was some colossal task. I meant that we are too much of a project. It would take at least a couple of transfer windows for him to shape us into a Pep team and even longer to play his style of football. Think we'd need almost an entirely new midfield and defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11Drogba 2,000 Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 If I am not mistaken Wenger's contract expires in 2017. Arsenal's squad also suits to Guardiola's style and if he likes big cities he could take another one year break until Wenger retires in 2017. Fernando 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 If he is truly looking for a project and the opportunity to build a club in his image then the choice is obvious. I for one think he's toying with us and Utd, he will ultimately go work for the people he knows and trusts in Txiki and Ferran. The only thing that may swing the pendulum in our favour is London and whether or not his wife has any say in where they want to live. Outside of that we are pretty much never gonna get him... He almost joined in 2013 but the appointment of Rafa salted him on our business practices(who can blame him?) City don't have a lot of movable pieces so for him to build his own team would require a complete overhaul. Kompany is injury prone and 30 this year, Yaya is 33, Silva 29 but still highly effective. Their main pieces going forward are Sterling, De Bruyne, Aguero, Bony(?) On paper we look the more appetizing proposition Terry is done. Ivanovic, Cahill, Remy and Falcao don't look to be part of the long term outlook. Our main pieces are Costa, Willian, Hazard, Zouma, Courtois, Azpilicueta and maybe Matic... are those pieces along with serviceable pieces he's worked with in the past like Pedro and Fab enough to attract him to London? We do have movable pieces as well like Oscar, Ramires, Mikel... I'm not sure, at this point my money is on the favourite in Man City but we do make for a compelling option even without Europe next year. AWorriedChelseaFan, kellzfresh, The Skipper and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 32 minutes ago, 11Drogba said: If I am not mistaken Wenger's contract expires in 2017. Arsenal's squad also suits to Guardiola's style and if he likes big cities he could take another one year break until Wenger retires in 2017. Yeah this is true. Out of all the club in the PL Arsenal seems like the best fit for him. No one will bother him, no debts and they make good money. It might be if Wenger decides to step down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sovieticus 743 Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 2 hours ago, Ossie the King said: Money London Money Challenge Money The chance to work with Mike Emenalo (alright Mike!) Money A talented squad of loyal, hungry.....actually have some more money Pep. You forgot Mikelele. Ossie the King 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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