🇦🇷 8. Enzo Fernandez

[DH1988 1,348]

1 minute ago, Mário César said:

maybe we can finally sell him 

Public apology and accept his fines most likely I imagine. 

[Sir Mikel OBE 4,920]

Gusto seems to have unfollowed him.

 

[Mário César 1,274]

he is so dumb 

jesus christ 

[nyikolajevics 2,700]

37 minutes ago, bluesman2610 said:

I know Enzo is young but you should know the internet is forever man. He has much explaining to do to his teammates when he returns from international duty.

Everyone knows most of these pro football players are not the sharpest tools in the shelf but damn, how stupid you have to be to do this? I can understand when a player is video taped doing or saying something stupid, must not be easy being followed pretty much 24/7.. But live streaming yourself signing such a song? No red lights were flashing inside at all?

 

[TheHulk 2,459]

Nonsense last few replies, he was just having fun celebrating and euphoria, doesn't mean he was a racist, calm the fuck down.

Edited July 16, 2024 by TheHulk

[Fulham Broadway 17,319]

He'll be alright if the club want to keep him. Lamps, Terry, Morris baring their arses at US tourists after 9/11 seemed cardinal sins - but if youre good, get away with anything

[YorkshireBlue 3,277]

12 minutes ago, TheHulk said:

Nonsense last few replies, he was just having fun celebrating and euphoria, doesn't mean he was a racist, calm the fuck down.

Yeah having fun, when u won the euros did cucu go around signing about black french players? No, no he didn't, what your failing to understand is the amount of black players particularly black french players we have in our squad, considering football has had a massive campaign going onto kick racism out of football this is going to go down like a shit butty, I'm not bothered about external noise but this could cause huge damage and a rift in the squad, exactly what we don't need.

Edited July 16, 2024 by YorkshireBlue

[Sir Mikel OBE 4,920]

3 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

He'll be alright if the club want to keep him. Lamps, Terry, Morris baring their arses at US tourists after 9/11 seemed cardinal sins - but if youre good, get away with anything

If he was a stand out performer i'd agree too, but his performances for us havent been anywhere near good enough to tolerate someone that half the squad will probably hate now.

 

Hell, it looks like Disasi and Fofana have already unfollowed him after Gusto did too.

[TheHulk 2,459]

4 minutes ago, YorkshireBlue said:

Yeah having fun, when u won the euros did cucu go around signing about black french players? No, no he didn't, what your failing to understand is the amount of black players particularly black french players we have in our squad, considering football has had a massive campaign going onto kick racism out of football this is going to go down like a shit butty

That song is popular there in Argentina, he was naive if anything. I remember once I posted that anti semitic image as an reaction image to a result in a basket forum without knowing what it means and I got warned. Doesn't mean I hate jews just didn't know the meaning of it.

Edited July 16, 2024 by TheHulk

[OneMoSalah 8,886]

21 minutes ago, TheHulk said:

Nonsense last few replies, he was just having fun celebrating, doesn't mean he was a racist, calm the fuck down.

You obviously don’t know what the full chant was or are oblivious to common sense as what it infers is heavily racist. As well as homophobic slurs also. 

Club need to investigate this and look into it. I do not know what to expect but Boehly-Clearlake group have run folk out of other departments in the club on the non playing side for things such as bullying in the workplace. Can’t see their stance softening, particularly given the fact some of his team mates are French, makes it even worse. This he didn’t know what it meant attitude will not fly with this, not in this day and age.

French Football Federation have also threatened and intend on submitting a legal case against the Argentinian Football Federation. So nonsense nothing.

11 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

He'll be alright if the club want to keep him. Lamps, Terry, Morris baring their arses at US tourists after 9/11 seemed cardinal sins - but if youre good, get away with anything

Different times now though. Modern day culture has changed significantly with regards to racism, sexism, homophobia and other subjects.

I’d imagine the club will be assessing it on all sides as for us, it is a potential PR crisis plus the potential for major issues inside the dressing room between Enzo and the other players and coaching staff. 

Either way - the evidence is pretty damning. The video is for all to see and they get him to cut the video right at the bit which is where they would begin the racial and homophobic slurs. 

Edited July 16, 2024 by OneMoSalah

[LAM09 7,056]

2 minutes ago, TheHulk said:

That song is popular there in Argentina, he was naive if anything. I remember once I posted that anti semitic image as an reaction image to a result in a basket forum without knowing what it means and I got warned. Doesn't mean I hate jews just didn't know the meaning of it.

Shouldn't you do research before using random images, then?

[TheHulk 2,459]

Just now, LAM09 said:

Shouldn't you do research before using random images, then?

I just thought it's a funny reaction to a result didn't know that it had some meaning behind it.

[LAM09 7,056]

2 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said:

Different times now though. Modern day culture has changed significantly with regards to racism, sexism, homophobia and other subjects.

I’d imagine the club will be assessing it on all sides as for us, it is a potential PR crisis plus the potential for major issues inside the dressing room between Enzo and the other players and coaching staff. 

Let's not forget that we have a sizeable group of French players who are black as well. This runs deeper than some on this board seem to realise.

[LAM09 7,056]

5 minutes ago, TheHulk said:

I just thought it's a funny reaction to a result didn't know that it had some meaning behind it.

I hate to break it to you, but that's the problem right there. Enzo clearly seems to be having a fun time singing a "harmless 😐" song with his teammates.

Any individual has to accept the consequences of their actions and take accountability.

Edited July 16, 2024 by LAM09

[YorkshireBlue 3,277]

7 minutes ago, TheHulk said:

I just thought it's a funny reaction to a result didn't know that it had some meaning behind it.

I know you think it's harmless, but this could honestly result in Enzo gone.

[OneMoSalah 8,886]

11 minutes ago, LAM09 said:

Let's not forget that we have a sizeable group of French players who are black as well. This runs deeper than some on this board seem to realise.

Precisely thus also.

Can’t just write this off as youthful naivety - regardless of how good someone is or isn’t. Or if there an asset or whatever.

Boehly-Clearlake talked a lot about culture when they took over and their intentions to reduce toxicity and bullying in the workplace after multiple allegations over the years from various employees.

Turning a blind eye to something like this, which is a much bigger issue, would be extremely contradictory and send the wrong message to everyone associated with the club.

@NikkiCFC also agree - it will be more than just us affected. Obviously its the Argentinians Federation and mens team issue first and foremost. But with the response from Wes Fofana to the video, his club team mate uploaded…. Not ideal. And there will be various Argentines with French team mates at club level across Europe who will have no doubt felt the same/had similar reactions.

Edited July 16, 2024 by OneMoSalah

[NikkiCFC 8,324]

Is this going to be a issue only in Chelsea? Looks like full squad singing that song. Liverpool, Inter and Atletico also have players in both national teams. Will Thuram be angry with Lautaro? Konate with AMA? Griezmann is white tho and already had racist history so no issues in Atletico. 

Edited July 16, 2024 by NikkiCFC

[TheHulk 2,459]

7 minutes ago, YorkshireBlue said:

I know you think it's harmless, but this could honestly result in Enzo gone.

They aren't gonna let an 100m asset go with a massive loss, especially one of our best players. If they paint Enzo as an racist for singing a song, they should also paint Messi and the rest as well since they were all obviously doing the same thing even if they don't appear on video.

Edited July 16, 2024 by TheHulk

[LAM09 7,056]

8 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said:

Is this going to be a issue only in Chelsea? Looks like full squad singing that song. Liverpool, Inter and Atlatico also have players in both national teams. Will Thuram be angry with Lautaro? Konate with AMA? Griezmann is white tho and already had racist history so no issues in Atlatico. 

Clubs & organisations within this country try to take a tough stance against all types of discrimination. Have you actually watched an Italian or Spanish top-flight game recently?

How others act is totally irrelevant anyway. As the saying goes, "get your house in order." If Boehly & Co. are people of their word, Enzo will either have to face serious punishment or be sold during this window. I'm still lost for words with such responses, which are trying to downplay what's happened. We're in 2024, not 1904.

Edited July 16, 2024 by LAM09

[Pizy 18,918]

I don’t know which is dumber, the team singing the racist, super offensive song or Enzo filming it, putting it live on IG, and not thinking about the reaction it would get. How can you be that fucking stupid?!

I honestly don’t know what he can do other than getting up in front of the whole squad and profusely apologize and ask that they please allow him to earn their support back.

Any talk of selling him is complete madness.