Vegetable 830 Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 2 minutes ago, Tomo said: As much as i love Tuchel and was gutted when we sacked him, his transfer record has contributed towards this. And I'm saying this at the point I still have some hope for Cucurella and Sterling. Given he was sacked for not wanting to participate in transfer business… Of what I remember, Tuchel wanted completely different targets and he didn't get them. This may be as well Boehly's business that Tuchel just shrugged off, we will never know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,175 Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 I warned on all this for ages it was so easy to see it happening as the last 5 years or so rolled by, especially everything after Roman said no new stadium and the SHIT transfers really started to pile up, plus the horrid contract management Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didi007 69 Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 3 minutes ago, Tomo said: As much as i love Tuchel and was gutted when we sacked him, his transfer record has contributed towards this. And I'm saying this at the point I still have some hope for Cucurella and Sterling. Its not his fault he wasnt able to work with the players he wanted transferred. Who knows, with his own players the outcome might have been different Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 Just now, Vegetable said: Given he was sacked for not wanting to participate in transfer business… Of what I remember, Tuchel wanted completely different targets and he didn't get them. This may be as well Boehly's business that Tuchel just shrugged off, we will never know. He could have used the young players as depth and told the board to reaccess with a proper team in. And that's before getting into the previous summer. Vegetable and mkh 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,175 Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 Which is a bigger shitshow? Chelsea or the NHS after years of Tory cunt-ups Norfolkblue1961 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 1 minute ago, didi007 said: Its not his fault he wasnt able to work with the players he wanted transferred. Who knows, with his own players the outcome might have been different I don't buy the idea he had no say, the same narrative was used to defend Conte. As I've just said he could have used the young players and asked the board to reaccess when we had a better structure. And he was beaming when we signed Lukaku so nothing will convince me he had that one forced on him. mkh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,535 Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 (edited) ''We said it, we know they have injuries. With so many it is tough for them but that doesn't stop the players on the pitch putting a shift in, having an attitude, showing they belong in a Chelsea shirt. So the next two games are so important for them'' Alan Shearer Edited January 8, 2023 by Laylabelle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HEREIAM 83 Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 I was all for TT for getting the sack and all for Potter for being given the chance, it started well but fell apart when we lost to Brighton.But all this rubbish about needing to rest players before the World Cup, because they are getting tired, Arsenal fielded the same team nearly every game and look where they are. I know he’s got injuries but if he keeps his job and that’s a BIG if, he needs to show some balls and drop KK, Azpi, Mount, Havertz and Jorginho, play 3 at the back until James comes back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegetable 830 Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 2 minutes ago, Tomo said: As I've just said he could have used the young players and asked the board to reaccess when we had a better structure. Maybe he said that and that was seen as contrary to Boehly's ambiton, hence Cucurella. Tuchel was always known for making weird players work very well, it would be strange if he'd suddenly lost his feel for players suitable for his system Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Armour 4,439 Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Laylabelle said: ''We said it, we know they have injuries. With so many it is tough for them but that doesn't stop the players on the pitch putting a shift in, having an attitude, showing they belong in a Chelsea shirt. So the next two games are so important for them'' Are those Potter's words? Edited January 8, 2023 by Blue Armour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,535 Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 Just now, Blue Armour said: Is that Potter's words? Nahhh!! Imagine haha. Alan Shearer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Armour 4,439 Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 (edited) Just now, Laylabelle said: Nahhh!! Imagine haha. Alan Shearer Sigh. I was hopeful. Edited January 8, 2023 by Blue Armour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfccrost 23 Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 Senior players are abysmal with their efort. Young players are not the level Buy,sell,loan,sack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 9 minutes ago, Vegetable said: Maybe he said that and that was seen as contrary to Boehly's ambiton, hence Cucurella. Tuchel was always known for making weird players work very well, it would be strange if he'd suddenly lost his feel for players suitable for his system He has historically been pretty sketchy (putting it mildly) in the market. But I don't want to go too deep into it now as it will start sounding like a deflection from holding Potter accountable for these performances which is not the intention atall. Vegetable 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bren 41 Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 3 minutes ago, cfccrost said: Senior players are abysmal with their efort I think part of it is that our "senior" players now would actually be supporting players of previous teams. Stick them in a team full of leaders and warriors and they'd rub along ok, raised up by the level of their teammates. When it's on them to be the leaders and set the tone consistently, game-to-game ... nothing. The exception is Silva of course! Blue Armour 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegetable 830 Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 (edited) 21 minutes ago, HEREIAM said: I know he’s got injuries but if he keeps his job and that’s a BIG if, he needs to show some balls and drop KK, Azpi, Mount, Havertz and Jorginho, play 3 at the back until James comes back That's part of the problem: Second James comes back, he is masking the true state of this team, people shutting up and ultimately nothing changes. Edited January 8, 2023 by Vegetable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,313 Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 30 minutes ago, Vesper said: Which is a bigger shitshow? Chelsea or the NHS after years of Tory cunt-ups With perspective, one is kicking a ball round a field, the other is the tories killing 500 people a week Vesper 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,535 Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 ''There's a lot to digest and I'm sure the board will be dissecting everything, not just today but over the last six or seven games that they've failed to win. There isn't anything from this performance, any structure, anything I'm seeing, that makes me think, yep, that's planning for the future - other than the signings they've brought in. But if they haven't got a philosophy, a plan, a way they want to play, then how are these signings going to fit in and how are they going to move forward and progress? ''In the meantime, you've got egos, if you want to call them that, at the club who aren't performing so how do you move forward'' From bbc..basically everyone is tearing into the team and rightly so! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmicway 1,333 Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 Would n't be better if we were comunist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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