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Aside from his size isn't Koundé supposed to be really good?

He's the same height as Azpilicueta (1.78m) so obviously a back-3 can successfully have one CB who's not all that great in the air. He's also taller than Reece James who many were campaigning to play at RCB in case the club signed Hakimi as wing-back, so why's Kounde's size all of a sudden some huge problem? I could see some problems with having two fun-sized defenders in the back line (Koundé together with Azpi/James) but having just one smaller player is a non-issue, as long as the other two are good and strong enough to compete in aerial duels.

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1 minute ago, Jype said:

Aside from his size isn't Koundé supposed to be really good?

He's the same height as Azpilicueta (1.78m) so obviously a back-3 can successfully have one CB who's not all that great in the air. He's also taller than Reece James who many were campaigning to play at RCB in case the club signed Hakimi as wing-back, so why's Kounde's size all of a sudden some huge problem? I could see some problems with having two fun-sized defenders in the back line (Koundé together with Azpi/James) but having just one smaller player is a non-issue, as long as the other two are good and strong enough to compete in aerial duels.

Mendy in goal gives us a lot of leeway aswell.

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Aside from his size isn't Koundé supposed to be really good?

He's the same height as Azpilicueta (1.78m) so obviously a back-3 can successfully have one CB who's not all that great in the air. He's also taller than Reece James who many were campaigning to play at RCB in case the club signed Hakimi as wing-back, so why's Kounde's size all of a sudden some huge problem? I could see some problems with having two fun-sized defenders in the back line (Koundé together with Azpi/James) but having just one smaller player is a non-issue, as long as the other two are good and strong enough to compete in aerial duels.

I would tend to agree with this if we stick with a back 3. Not so sure if we wanted to play a back 4, however (I haven't really seen enough of him to make a judgement) I have read that he has a very good leap on him and he does have a good success rate of winning aerial balls. 

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Short for a CB for sure, but as mentioned a week or two ago he’s built like a tank and is excellent on the ball.

If we do buy him I’m not really sure where he plays this coming season, though. Unless Silva’s game time is much more limited to keep him fresh.  

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Fabrizio hasn't mentioned the price for Kounde. Man City bid 55m euros last year and it was rejected, contract is till 2024.

This is 50m on a position we don't necessarily need to strengthen.

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3 minutes ago, Pizy said:

Short for a CB for sure, but as mentioned a week or two ago he’s built like a tank and is excellent on the ball.

If we do buy him I’m not really sure where he plays this coming season, though. Unless Silva’s game time is much more limited to keep him fresh.  

Either Silva or Christensen won't play for sure, Kounde will occupy the RCB in a back three. 

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On 16/07/2021 at 21:58, NikkiCFC said:

I barely watched Kounde so I am not going to say anything about his abilities. But speaking about height, in 3 atb, one CB being shorter is less of a issue.

Walker just played it for England and he is 178cm. Azpi the same. Reece just a bit taller. D Ambrosio played regularly for Conte and he is 180cm. In 3atb, one CB being shorter and with pace is almost advisable.

It would be a issue with regular formation but even there you have example of Barca dominating Euro footy with Mascherano 174cm and Puyol 178cm.

Kounde as RCB with Chris in the middle and Rudi LCB would not be a issue at all.

 

This is what I said 10 days ago so yeah, I am not concerned about height. 

Also I expect him to play only RCB in this formation. So he will share minutes with Azpi. Not sure what will happen to James tho?

 

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This is what I said 10 days ago so yeah, I am not concerned about height. 

Also I expect him to play only RCB in this formation. So he will share minutes with Azpi. Not sure what will happen to James tho?

 

James and Sterling likely RWB/RB options. 

 

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Fabrizio hasn't mentioned the price for Kounde. Man City bid 55m euros last year and it was rejected, contract is till 2024.

This is 50m on a position we don't necessarily need to strengthen.

True, but it'd also be some smart pre-emptive planning ahead of a bigger CB rebuild later on.

Zouma is perhaps not good enough, Silva will definitely leave in 2022 due to his age and at the moment Rüdiger, Christensen, Azpilicueta all have their contracts up next summer as well. I don't think all three will leave (especially Azpi) but I wouldn't be surprised if Rüdiger did, and there's already been some talk that he could choose not to extend his deal and get a big pay day somewhere else as a free agent.

It would be a disaster going into the 2022/23 season and potentially having to get as many as 3-4 new central defenders in just one transfer window and all having to settle in at the same time. Long term planning is really important and that's why getting a new CB this summer could be a good idea.

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Koundé + a midfielder sounds realistic if this rumor from Romano is accurate. Then address the striker issue either in Jan or a year from now.

Risky as hell but that seems the most likely outcome now.

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