Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 21 minutes ago, Tomo said: We should only consider selling Barkley if/when Gallagher is ready, possibly not even then. Football is going to have a hectic schedule for the 2/3 years with a fair chunk of players getting next to no time off, we need all the squad depth we can get, even more than the norm. I think independent of Gallagher we are at least one player too thick in his position. Barkley is by far the most expendable player in our midfield and imo should be last in the pecking order behind Kovacic, Kante, Joeginho, RLC, Mount. Even in a 4-3-3 five senior midfielders should be enough given additional to Gallagher there are tons of Academy graduates in that position, one of which just signed a new long term deal. Unless we sell someone else, Barkley will only hold us up. The only thing he has going for him is that he is homegrown so is basically a free spot in midfield but with the direction the club is going, fulfilling the homegrown quota will not be a problem in the future. If we can trade him for another English player with the potential of Rice it should be a no brainer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! OhForAGreavsie 6,075 Posted June 9, 2020 Popular Post! Share Posted June 9, 2020 18 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said: If we can trade him [Barkley] for another English player with the potential of Rice it should be a no brainer I have to watch more of Declan Rice because I'm clearly missing something. Atomiswave, Johnnyeye, Tomo and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killer1257 3,282 Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 I have to watch more of Declan Rice because I'm clearly missing something.He improved a bit, but I do not see his world class potential either.Gesendet von meinem SM-G920F mit Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 1 minute ago, killer1257 said: He improved a bit, but I do not see his world class potential either. Gesendet von meinem SM-G920F mit Tapatalk No one said anything about world class potential but more than Barkley that’s for sure. Rice is a the English Jon Obi Mikel. Composed and tackles clean as a whistle. But he is quicker and more tenacious. At 21 he already looks a mature DM. Not a worldclass one bit a very solid one. Even if he stagnates at this level Which is unlikely he will have a good Career. But more importantly we got overrun in midfield a lot in big games where we really could use a player like him especially over a dud like Barkley. killer1257 and Fernando 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killer1257 3,282 Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 No one said anything about world class potential but more than Barkley that’s for sure. Rice is a the English Jon Obi Mikel. Composed and tackles clean as a whistle. But he is quicker and more tenacious. At 21 he already looks a mature DM. Not a worldclass one bit a very solid one. Even if he stagnates at this level Which is unlikely he will have a good Career. But more importantly we got overrun in midfield a lot in big games where we really could use a player like him especially over a dud like Barkley.Ahh sorry. You said that with his potential, it would be a no brainer, so I thought you see him as a future world class player. He is a solid player for sure, but I think he will cost a lot due to the fact he is english and currently with Kante in our team, I see no room for him.I also agree that we should let Barkley go and I think we could even 15 mio. pounds for him. We got overrun couple of times, but one factor is that Jorgi is way too slow. I prefer having Billy over him and I wrote on a post recently why I like Billy more. Also we lack a little bit of physicality in our midfield and in my opinion, RLC would solve that problem. Question in the big Games is that do you want a tall and strong midfielder as a no. 6 or do you want to use a player like Jorgi/Billy that is essential for your offensive football. Both works in the end if the players around them are good enough Gesendet von meinem SM-G920F mit Tapatalk Magic Lamps 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 11 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said: No one said anything about world class potential but more than Barkley that’s for sure. Rice is a the English Jon Obi Mikel. Composed and tackles clean as a whistle. But he is quicker and more tenacious. At 21 he already looks a mature DM. Not a worldclass one bit a very solid one. Even if he stagnates at this level Which is unlikely he will have a good Career. But more importantly we got overrun in midfield a lot in big games where we really could use a player like him especially over a dud like Barkley. Thing is we seem to be going in a different direction in that position. Lampard only tends to play Jorgi and Gilmour there which suggests like Sarri he wants a dictator as opposed to a traditional DM. Unless we plan to mould him into a CB pursuing him makes no sense. OhForAGreavsie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jase 43,479 Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 36 minutes ago, Tomo said: Thing is we seem to be going in a different direction in that position. Lampard only tends to play Jorgi and Gilmour there which suggests like Sarri he wants a dictator as opposed to a traditional DM. Unless we plan to mould him into a CB pursuing him makes no sense. I might argue that Lampard has had to make do with what he has this season, given the transfer ban etc. Kante is our only defensive midfielder but he is not your traditional midfielder and he has been injured a lot, which forced Lampard to play with what he has remaining. It would also be criminal to not have a traditional defensive midfielder or someone who can do that job efficiently (Kante has been hit-and-miss IMO ever since we moved away from the pragmatic style) but also have good/decent passing range. A lot of the other big clubs have at least someone like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 3 minutes ago, Blues Forever said: That depends on who is telling him that. It could be that Leverkusen are spreading these stories to have a bidding war on Havertz... Supermonkey92 and Johnnyeye 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killer1257 3,282 Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 Fuck my life Gesendet von meinem SM-G920F mit Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, killer1257 said: Fuck my life Gesendet von meinem SM-G920F mit Tapatalk It's now on the Guardian site too... Johnnyeye and killer1257 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,075 Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 3 hours ago, Magic Lamps said: No one said anything about world class potential but more than Barkley that’s for sure. Rice is a the English Jon Obi Mikel. Composed and tackles clean as a whistle. But he is quicker and more tenacious. At 21 he already looks a mature DM. Not a worldclass one bit a very solid one. Even if he stagnates at this level Which is unlikely he will have a good Career. But more importantly we got overrun in midfield a lot in big games where we really could use a player like him especially over a dud like Barkley. This will be a really interesting story as it develops. For one thing, while I understand that you're not claiming Rice is a Mikel Jon Obi clone, I'd be in even less of a hurry to sign him if he were. For another, my suspicion is that Frank is not a fan of the out-and-out DM. We'll discover if that guess is right as Frank gradually puts his own stamp on the squad. I did though mean it when I said that I need to watch more of Rice. You are one of a number of regulars who like him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 Simon Phillps reporting that we have held talks with Leverkusen and hope to negotiate a fee of around 70M killer1257, Johnnyeye and Fernando 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 My FM 20 Chelsea team (one of the potential XIs) could actually become a reality next season... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killer1257 3,282 Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 Simon Phillps reporting that we have held talks with Leverkusen and hope to negotiate a fee of around 70MIs he a reputable Source? Gesendet von meinem SM-G920F mit Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killer1257 3,282 Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 My FM 20 Chelsea team (one of the potential XIs) could actually become a reality next season... [emoji38][emoji38][emoji38] Lol. How did you get Mbappe hahaGesendet von meinem SM-G920F mit Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blues Forever 1,232 Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 1 minute ago, killer1257 said: Is he a reputable Source? Gesendet von meinem SM-G920F mit Tapatalk No, he is only quoting Jacob Steinberg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 Just now, killer1257 said: Lol. How did you get Mbappe haha Gesendet von meinem SM-G920F mit Tapatalk Sell deadwoods, beg the club for money. killer1257 and Johnnyeye 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killer1257 3,282 Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 Sell deadwoods, beg the club for money. [emoji185]Very realistic football simulation hahahaGesendet von meinem SM-G920F mit Tapatalk Johnnyeye 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jandomi10 82 Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 Havertz has spoken to Lampard, he is very very happy with this..but a Chelsea player must be sold. @BBCSomali Johnnyeye and Atomiswave 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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