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3 hours ago, Mhsc said:

He could definitely use a loan but also he needs top quality coaching and he needs to compete in a good league, ideally the PL. Got to be a club in the PL with a big need at LW and a coach with a reputation for helping players to improve?

He needs guaranteed playing time more than anything. Brighton aren't exactly stacked at LW, but he wouldn't be a starter for them. Chelsea have a problem with loaning players without having reassurance about playing time (Broja's bonus payout isn't the right way to go about it).

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Ykw Mudryk would actually suit Real Betis if Pellegrini is still there. Shame they’d afford 5M € and cover 15k a week wages. I just mean for his own sake. He could learn enough there and one day be useful. SHOULD WE LOAN HIM FOR 3 SEASONOS? Long contract 

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Ivan Toney is someone I’d have to see performing in our team before I believe he’s good enough. Because at the moment he looks like one of the countless strikers we’ve seen light it up for a small club and then become extremely underwhelming when they take a massive step up.

If we’re talking purely about his skill set he probably does fit a Maresca side better than Osimhen. But is he good enough quality wise? Man, that’s tough to say…

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7 minutes ago, Pizy said:

Ivan Toney is someone I’d have to see performing in our team before I believe he’s good enough. Because at the moment he looks like one of the countless strikers we’ve seen light it up for a small club and then become extremely underwhelming when they take a massive step up.

If we’re talking purely about his skill set he probably does fit a Maresca side better than Osimhen. But is he good enough quality wise? Man, that’s tough to say…

He is such a meh player. Quite literally had one good season and it was filled with penalties. He is 28, had plenty of controversy around him, and just doesn't stand out at doing anything amazing. 

This is like a worse version of Demba Ba situation. 

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7 minutes ago, Thor said:

He is such a meh player. Quite literally had one good season and it was filled with penalties. He is 28, had plenty of controversy around him, and just doesn't stand out at doing anything amazing. 

This is like a worse version of Demba Ba situation. 

Agree. If we saw breaking news that Toney was joining someone like Fulham or West Ham or Wolves id say "yeah, thats probably his level." A step up from Brentford in terms of club size but not somewhere with UCL ambitions. 

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Osimhen has a higher ceiling but Toney has a higher floor.

Toney somewhat proven in PL,despite his age is as hungry as ever so opposite of a Sterling.he'll be 29 next march so not exactly old and isn't a pure speed merchant so isnt going to decline abruptly.we have young CF's that should be able to step up by time he's done.he's not blocking development of those youngsters. He puts away what he should.an underated gift when looking at CF's when it should remain the most important.

Signing him would rescue him from Saudi and from certain England retirement. Is only the previous gambling issue that is a red flag but really after the punishment he had last time that shouldnt be an issue.

Osimhen has potentially more red flags and would cause more issues to us if he flops than Toney would.

 

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8 minutes ago, Duppy Conqueror said:

Osimhen has a higher ceiling but Toney has a higher floor.

Toney somewhat proven in PL,despite his age is as hungry as ever so opposite of a Sterling.he'll be 29 next march so not exactly old and isn't a pure speed merchant so isnt going to decline abruptly.we have young CF's that should be able to step up by time he's done.he's not blocking development of those youngsters. He puts away what he should.an underated gift when looking at CF's when it should remain the most important.

Signing him would rescue him from Saudi and from certain England retirement. Is only the previous gambling issue that is a red flag but really after the punishment he had last time that shouldnt be an issue.

Osimhen has potentially more red flags and would cause more issues to us if he flops than Toney would.

 

Most accurate sum up so far I feel on any platform. Simple. Cut through the theories. Facts.  

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