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18 minutes ago, Jason said:

Even if it is not about the money, Messi wants to win the Champions League again. We are not going to win it any time soon. So people can definitely forget about us signing him. 

Mind you, Barcelona did not win everything with Messi at their peak every season under Guardiola. And that Barcelona side are better than City would be with Messi, a much older Messi.

And I know he's Messi, the best player in the world etc, the Premier League would represent a different challenge altogether especially when he's already 33. 

Ehh, with our recruitment this summer and what I'm sure will continue next summer I'm not so sure we should be dismissing our chances in the CL so quickly. I mean, Bayern were a level above everyone else but the other 3 semi finalists were nothing special. We are miles better than Lyon or Leipzig and I'd fancy our new look team against bottlers PSG as well. You get to the last 4 and anything can happen.

I wouldn't write us off challenging for the CL within the next 2 years if we get hot at the right time.

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Just now, Pizy said:

Ehh, with our recruitment this summer and what I'm sure will continue next summer I'm not so sure we should be dismissing our chances in the CL so quickly. I mean, Bayern were a level above everyone else but the other 3 semi finalists were nothing special. We are miles better than Lyon or Leipzig and I'd fancy our new look team against bottlers PSG as well. You get to the last 4 and anything can happen.

I wouldn't write us off challenging for the CL within the next 2 years if we get hot at the right time.

Show improvement, get past the round of 16 first and then we'll see. 

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1 minute ago, Iggy Doonican said:

He's three foot yet he's got a head like Harry McGuire:D

Reckon he'd be good without the growth hormones Messi took. Running rings round people, very low centre of gravity, nutmegging Pogba and then running between his legs

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While La Liga has top sides, the rest of them are awful like Championship level. And that is where Messi got most of his goals from.
He got scored zero against RM, zero against Villarreal, 1 against Sevilla (Free Kick), 1 against Sociedad (but it was a pen) and 1 against Atletico Madrid (but it was a pen).
Against decent sides he’s bang average this season.


Against Atletico, he scored 1 goal and that was not a penalty december 2019. It was a world class goal. He had 3 assists against Villareal. Is that considered bad now? He has 1 goal and 1 assist against Sociedad.

And La Liga is clearly not Championship level. Tactically and technically, they are better than Serie A and Bundesliga overall.



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11 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Reckon he'd be good without the growth hormones Messi took. Running rings round people, very low centre of gravity, nutmegging Pogba and then running between his legs

Have you noticed how dirty some modern players are in the last few years we've had Dunga, Kaka, Dodo,Messi and Shittu :D

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56 minutes ago, Mana said:

Really debatable if Messi is currently the best player in the world and improve City in many ways.

Because I don’t think he is. He was definitely but now?

There is nobody better than Messi still and there never will be.

He again has dragged Barcelona through another shit season where basically he has had to be the only guy who steps up to the plate, again. Like he has done many times since Luis Enrique left and even before then his individual genius in the greatest club team in perhaps football history or the last 25 years is probably more than enough to cement his position as the greatest player ever and if Ronaldo didnt exist, it would be undeniable.

People will talk about La Liga and their teams or whatever not being that good but Seville just won the Europa League beating United on the way, Atletico schooled Liverpool in knockout football in the CL, Real were beaten fair and square by City but would beat every other PL team with significant ease bar City and Liverpool. Even then all these outside top 4 clubs in the PL have triple or quadruple the budgets of these outside top 4 or 5 Spanish teams and are probably worse. The Villa’s, Norwich’s, Bournemouth’s, Fulham’s, Everton’s, Cardiff’s, West Ham’s, Newcastle’s etc have all spent fuck tonnes in the last however many years and would probably finish in the same shit positions. Or worse.

It is definitely harder to play in Spain than what people think - ironically, its still mainly PL fans who turn their nose up at the standards of the other teams outside Barcelona, Real, Atletico, Sevilla and Valencia as if ours are really any better? - even more so when you look at all the top players who play very well in Spain and then come over here and don’t necessarily struggle or need too long to make a transition. If the Spanish league was too easy to play in do you think the PL would have brought over so many players from there in the last 10 years? Not a chance. 

Wouldnt improve City? he would improve them significantly. Hes a very consistent goalscorer, assist maker, wins more fouls, creates more chances, makes more key passes, completes more dribbles than most players in Europe. Hes 33 now, okay he maybe isnt the way he was 7,8,9 years ago but he is still significantly better than most players in Europe. Him and Ronaldo would improve all teams in Europe. Even at their ages. Theyre still better than Neymar, Mbappe etc.

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No way I`d take Leo Messi at Chelsea at this time under any circumstances. Absolutely not what we need at the moment , and runs counter to the project we are building . Thanks , but no thanks

For  sure Messi in Premier League would be interesting ( probably City)

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I was thinking about why we were linked with Maignan and it all makes sense to me.

If you put two-and-two together then you'll realise that it has to do with him being a French speaking player. Thiago Silva spent years in Ligue 1 so he can definitely speak French. Zouma is another French player, and Kante(our CDM) as well. 

The communication between these defensive players is what's going to make our defence solid. That's why I think we could sign Maignan.

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1 minute ago, Azul said:

I was thinking about why we were linked with Maignan and it all makes sense to me.

If you put two-and-two together then you'll realise that it has to do with him being a French speaking player. Thiago Silva spent years in Ligue 1 so he can definitely speak French. Zouma is another French player, and Kante(our CDM) as well. 

The communication between these defensive players is what's going to make our defence solid. That's why I think we could sign Maignan.

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6 minutes ago, milka said:

 

 

No way I`d take Leo Messi at Chelsea at this time under any circumstances. Absolutely not what we need at the moment , and runs counter to the project we are building . Thanks , but not thanks

For  sure Messi in Premier League would be interesting ( probably City)

Greatest player to have ever played but you don‘t want him because he runs counter the project we are building?

To a lesser extent I am guessing Thiago Silva also runs counter to it because hes like 35 also? 
 

If so okay I see but even then I dont see the logic. If Messi isnt what we need at the moment we might as well say to Roman release everybody and sell up the club. Because we arent going to get anybody we need then if the greatest player of all time isnt what we need in one way or another.

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