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[TheHulk 1,847]

 

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[Beorn 11]

42 minutes ago, Vesper said:

chalk and cheese

Muddy is a right footed left winger

Omari is a left footed right winger

not entirely true. If you see the video showcasing the tactics of McKenna it discusses the impact of Hutchinson and shows his role and heatmap. he was more of a left sided winger or even a second striker. 

[TheHulk 1,847]

3 hours ago, ZAPHOD2319 said:

 

Get this dogshit player outta my face, we already have Disasi, don't make another mistake.

[Mário César 971]

14 minutes ago, TheHulk said:

 

hahaha

another talented player

Im tired to be honest 

[YorkshireBlue 3,122]

1 hour ago, OneMoSalah said:

True also. I mean maybe there is more to it. Not saying he is ready for us but he can’t be any worse than Mudryk has been, slightly different positions but surely the manager could give him a run out in pre season and see what he’s got. 

The McKenna links were odd too. It’s almost as if the co-sporting directors are doing everything on impulse/making it up as they go along. Club wanted Poch, was the number 1 target, a year later he’s out. Then it was basically every name from Thomas Tuchel to Kieran McKenna. Then it was Enzo Maresca. 

It was very reminiscent of when Todd was giving it billy big bollocks and basically trying to sign every player under the sun when he was acting sporting director. Scattergun approach. 

I'm in 2 minds ATM about the appointment, if there intention is to wait a few season and build a proper team from youth then I can completely get onboard with this, but just say it, don't act Asif we are going for top 4 and trophies all the time because it's probably out of our reach ATM, but I agree poch signing was strange then to go after a season and give enzo 3 more years on a contact than poch, really makes me feel poch was always a stop gap.

[Pizy 18,360]

Whichever striker we get is probably going to be yet another young talent that’s going to need time to settle in and will be inconsistent in their first season much like Nico Jackson was this past one.

There really isn’t that RvP/Haaland/Diego Costa sort of striker that you are 100% convinced will be the final piece for your team and score 20 or more instantly.

So hopefully whichever scout convinced the club that we needed Cole Palmer is the one who picks out our new striker.

[Clockwork 1,794]

Wasen't there a lot of reports that Pochitino believed Kepa last summer, and we know how that turned out. Sanchez didn't work out under De Zerbi because he didn't like his ability on the ball, not sure why it would different under Maresca.

Edited June 4 by Clockwork

[Strike 7,212]

1 hour ago, Clockwork said:

Wasen't there a lot of reports that Pochitino believed Kepa last summer, and we know how that turned out. Sanchez didn't work out under De Zerbi because he didn't like his ability on the ball, not sure why it would different under Maresca.

Was in favour of Maresca's decisions so far. But I agree with this. Seems like a misstep. 

Only explanation I can think of is there's a fund crunch to go out and sign someone when there's 3 senior keepers on the books. Also the reason for free signing at CB

[ZAPHOD2319 4,465]

10 minutes ago, Strike said:

Was in favour of Maresca's decisions so far. But I agree with this. Seems like a misstep. 

Only explanation I can think of is there's a fund crunch to go out and sign someone when there's 3 senior keepers on the books. Also the reason for free signing at CB

I would wait until this all plays out. There are several keepers linked to us. A negotiating tactic is often to show the selling club you really don’t need the player being discussed. The sporting directors can easily be trying to manipulate getting a keeper without paying the big club tax.

[Vesper 28,668]

6 hours ago, Beorn said:

not entirely true. If you see the video showcasing the tactics of McKenna it discusses the impact of Hutchinson and shows his role and heatmap. he was more of a left sided winger or even a second striker. 

yes, I went back and looked deeper, and most of his goals came as a LWer, not a Rw

I was fooled as I saw most of his that he scored on the right

[Vesper 28,668]

5 hours ago, Pizy said:

There really isn’t that RvP/Haaland/Diego Costa sort of striker that you are 100% convinced will be the final piece for your team and score 20 or more instantly.

Lautaro Martínez (but he may soon renew after months of it looking unlikely, same for Barella, grrrr)

141 goals for club and country in the past 5 years

and he is still only 26, turns 27 right near the beginning of the EPL season, so still prime years for the next 5, 6 or so seasons (Drogba's best goal scoring year was when he was 31/32yo, for instance, when he banged in 44 for club (37 in the 2009/10 season) and country (7) over a 12 month span)

Lautaro is only 1 year and 4 months older than Osimhen (and also Mbappe, who is 9 days older than Osimhen) and is far more technical than Osimhen (but obviously not more than Mbappe, lol), so likely will age better

these are the top 20 valuation true CFs (I still count Mbappe as a winger)

bold are ones who even are remotely (some almost no chance) available if things break right

 
Erling Haaland 
Lautaro Martínez  (only available if he refuses to renew)
Victor Osimhen  
Harry Kane
Julián Álvarez 
Alexander Isak
Darwin Núñez  (hard pass)
Dušan Vlahović 
Ollie Watkins
Rasmus Højlund
Gabriel Jesus (hard pass)
Loïs Openda 
Marcus Thuram  
Viktor Gyökeres 
Endrick  
Jonathan David
Benjamin Sesko
Ivan Toney    
Evan Ferguson
Gonçalo Ramos  

[Vesper 28,668]

IF we pull a CF

I wager it will be one of these of these 5 (we are not going to get Osimhen or Lautaro)

Dušan Vlahović 
Viktor Gyökeres 
Jonathan David
Benjamin Sesko
Ivan Toney   (least expensive, and EPL proven, but also the lowest upside and by far the oldest)

I think the last 2 are the most likely, but I would go for J David

[Mário César 971]

2 hours ago, Vesper said:

IF we pull a CF

I wager it will be one of these of these 5 (we are not going to get Osimhen or Lautaro)

Dušan Vlahović 
Viktor Gyökeres 
Jonathan David
Benjamin Sesko
Ivan Toney   (least expensive, and EPL proven, but also the lowest upside and by far the oldest)

I think the last 2 are the most likely, but I would go for J David

probably will be sesko or gyokeres

happy and confident about both?

[Costa19 858]

2 hours ago, Vesper said:

IF we pull a CF

I wager it will be one of these of these 5 (we are not going to get Osimhen or Lautaro)

Dušan Vlahović 
Viktor Gyökeres 
Jonathan David
Benjamin Sesko
Ivan Toney   (least expensive, and EPL proven, but also the lowest upside and by far the oldest)

I think the last 2 are the most likely, but I would go for J David

Isak would smash it here.

But he is another £100m or more.. 

[Vesper 28,668]

4 minutes ago, Mário César said:

probably will be sesko or gyokeres

happy and confident about both?

I do not know. Viktor Gyökeres feels like a very expensive dice roll and I doubt we get him anyway. Benjamin Šeško a slightly less expensive one. I was in for him before he became expensive.

I would feel better better if we pulled Toney on the cheap or splashed a bit more and got J David.

 

[Pizy 18,360]

If Villa weren’t coming off of a top 4 finish I’d say Ollie Watkins would be a great signing as our new striker. But much like Newcastle with Isak, Villa as a club will be thinking that they’re “here to stay” as a regular top 4 contender and would never in a million years sell him.

But as Newcastle found out and as many “smaller” clubs that get UCL football once in a blue moon find out, once you have to juggle so many games and competitions it’s very hard to get back the following season. I think Villa finish WAY lower next season.

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