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12 hours ago, LAM09 said:

I still feel like we missed a trick with Danjuma despite our attacking incomings. None of those names really instil much excitement for me at this moment in time.

I'd rather put our hopes in Broja/Fofana.

I do not have an immense amount of hope atm for Broja

and I rate our offensive incomings higher than you apparently do

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46 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said:

Lets hope then. It’ll be tight though if their gonna dick about with structure again on our end.

I don’t know what the FFP implications of just paying €120m upfront is but surely if it comes to it they’ll do it?

Whether a fee is paid in full upfront, or on some agreed schedule, makes no difference to FFP. Either way the total fee can be amortised for FFP accounting purposes. Fully paid up front, or on a payment schedule, affects the affordability for the buying club, but doesn't impact FFP.

This relates to standard transfer fees, including release clauses, but not to buyout clauses. Giving a player the money to purchase his buyout counts as paying him a wage, and wages have to be accounted for, in full, during the FFP year in which they are paid.

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Every time I open Twitter it’s excitement that there’s some positive Enzo update and nervousness that Rui Costa will pull some bullshit and refuse to negotiate terms even if the installments eventually get him the full €120m. 

Glad there’s only 2 days left of this window. 

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21 minutes ago, Vesper said:

I do not have an immense amount of hope atm for Broja

and I rate our offensive incomings higher than you apparently do

Broja is over, this is back to the old days where young people that aren't outrageously good just wont get to play. He will be loaned and eventually sold.

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1 hour ago, Jype said:

As long as the deal is done by agreeing a €120M transfer fee and not by triggering the €120M buy-out then it won't affect FFP whatever the actual payment schedules. It's not like Clearlake don't have the money in hand if they wanted to pay it in one go so I doubt it's going to be a huge problem if the club are in fact ready to pay the full €120M and on whatever payment terms Benfica demand.

Now if Benfica were to be dicks about it they could still just point to the buy-out clause which cannot be amortised and would count as a €120M one-off FFP hit then it's just not going to be done. I'm sure Enzo himself would be thrilled if Benfica fucked over his move over a technicality that doesn't even benefit them at all because either way they'll still get the €120M.

I'm pretty sure that pointing to the buyout clause is exactly what Benfica are doing.

They'll be saying, "Dear Chelsea, we don't want to sell the player and won't do so so unless we are contractually compelled. So, unless you are determined to spend the amount necessary to proceed with the buyout, would you please go away. If, however, you have persuaded the player to trigger his buyout, and are prepared to give him the money to do it, the deal will cost you €120m plus tax. Then, and only then, we would be prepared to accept a negotiated transfer fee of €120m plus 90% of the tax. You still get the player for less than it would cost to fund the buyout, and this massively improves your FFP position compared to what it would be if the clause was triggered."

Chelsea would recognise the 90% ask as a bargaining position and the two clubs would get into a negotiation about exactly how much more than the clause amount Chelsea will pay. As I've said before, this is guesswork, but I don't think truth will be far from it.

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12 hours ago, Pizy said:

No more mega money strikers. We need to put these new scouts and sporting directors to work on finding the next inexpensive gem that can become a superstar. Maybe that’ll be David Fofana.

Osimhen is something special, but I do not think we can afford him this coming summer

I am not sure if we rate Dušan Vlahović that much, we never have made a move for him, under two ownership regimes now

there were two young ones I so wanted and we missed out on both last summer (we tried for both, especially Šeško)

Hugo Ekitiké (no way PSG gives him up now)

Benjamin Šeško (RB Salzburg, so there is a chance still)

other than those, the best conventional deals are Ivan Toney, IF he doesn't get suspended for gambling, and Jonathan David BUT they will be very expensive as well

 

and so that leaves (for me)


Rasmus Højlund (19yo, 1.91m Dane at Atalanta, and not crazy expensive yet, huge potential)

 

the rest not listed and who are actually available bore me a bit atm (the thought of them coming here is not awe-inspiring, lol)

I think DDF has huge potential, and would love to buy Højlund and then call it a day this summer

I am not going to get my hopes up for Osimhen (he is in the same league for us as Bellingham, ie. it would be insanely good to get both or one, but its likely a pipe dream for both or even one)

 

 

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15 minutes ago, Vesper said:

Osimhen is something special, but I do not think we can afford him this coming summer

I am not sure if we rate Dušan Vlahović that much, we never have made a move for him, under two ownership regimes now

there were two young ones I so wanted and we missed out on both last summer (we tried for both, especially Šeško)

Hugo Ekitiké (no way PSG gives him up now)

Benjamin Šeško (RB Salzburg, so there is a chance still)

other than those, the best conventional deals are Ivan Toney, IF he doesn't get suspended for gambling, and Jonathan David BUT they will be very expensive as well

 

and so that leaves (for me)


Rasmus Højlund (19yo, 1.91m Dane at Atalanta, and not crazy expensive yet, huge potential)

 

the rest not listed and who are actually available bore me a bit atm (the thought of them coming here is not awe-inspiring, lol)

I think DDF has huge potential, and would love to buy Højlund and then call it a day this summer

I am not going to get my hopes up for Osimhen (he is in the same league for us as Bellingham, ie. it would be insanely good to get both or one, but its likely a pipe dream for both or even one)

 

 

I just like the idea of Nkunku being our primary striker in the future. Someone who is lightning quick, great in tight areas, awesome dribbler. Bringing in a traditional #9 in my opinion should only be someone inexpensive and as a Plan B. A Giroud type.

Perhaps an older veteran like United have just done with Weghorst. 

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11 minutes ago, Pizy said:

I just like the idea of Nkunku being our primary striker in the future. Someone who is lightning quick, great in tight areas, awesome dribbler. Bringing in a traditional #9 in my opinion should only be someone inexpensive and as a Plan B. A Giroud type.

Perhaps an older veteran like United have just done with Weghorst. 

Hes more of a number 10/second striker though. He plays with a more traditional 9 in Andre Silva.

Having only played a handful of games for Leipzig as the main striker in the Bundesliga I don't think he will be our main striker. He hasnt played there at all in the CL either hes always played off the front man.

I think us using him as a 9 is just going to lead to more frustration in all honesty, like Havertz presently and even lining up with Hazard as a false 9 in the past.

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