DDA 9,943 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 32 minutes ago, Pizy said: More footage I watch of Caicedo the more I’m coming around on him. Got a bit more about him on the ball than I thought he did. Mate, I'm telling you... I know a midfielder when I see one... Caicedo and Mac Alister are class acts. Pizy, dimmas and Fernando 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 16 hours ago, whats happening said: i would not give up havertz yet. let give him comptetent attacking teammates first. he barely had those here If he needs competent attacking team mates to resemble a half decent footballer then ultimately he cannot be a half decent footballer. He has been abysmal this season. Atrocious. dimmas 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,385 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 (edited) Done with that argument. Heard it so many times. Does Lionel Messi prevent Havertz from dribbling out of the pitch on his own like we saw against Fulham? Does prime Ronaldo prevent Havertz from fluffing that early chance he got after a brilliant piece of skill from Felix against Fulham? Move on. Give me Mudryk, Felix, and Nkunku. Edited January 17, 2023 by MoroccanBlue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegetable 830 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 (edited) 16 hours ago, whats happening said: i would not give up havertz yet. let give him comptetent attacking teammates first. he barely had those here I wouldn't too, but the problem with him is that even if you ignore his output, he seems to have lost a lot of his vision and technique on ball since Bayer/starting here and that's worrying Edited January 17, 2023 by Vegetable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,279 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 5 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said: Done with that argument. Heard it so many times. Does Lionel Messi prevent Havertz from dribbling out of the pitch on his own like we saw against Fulham? Does prime Ronaldo prevent Havertz from fluffing that early chance he got from a brilliant piece of skill from Felix against Fulham? Move on. Playing out of position doesn't help, and having turds round you has an effect, having class around players makes them play better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alabama 1,992 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 (edited) Flashback.... Memories of last summer when everyone here was moaning after the take over from Boehly and Co over the purchase of players weeks after the transition was completed. The whole football world was mocking Chelsea that days of expensive player transfer was over...7 months after the whole football fan base now crying over Chelsea excessive spending.... Lol...long may it continue so long we continue to attract top quality players... Edited January 17, 2023 by Alabama Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,385 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, YorkshireBlue said: Playing out of position doesn't help, and having turds round you has an effect, having class around players makes them play better. He's played virtually every position and has looked equally shit. Don't give me that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,279 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said: He's played virtually every position and has looked equally shit. Don't give me that. Exactly no consistency, how the fuck you meant to settle and perform at your best when your played out of position constantly? Ever since he came he's been playing every were possible, use you head. His confidence is absolutely shot! It's got to the point now, nobody knows where to play him. Edited January 17, 2023 by YorkshireBlue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,953 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 58 minutes ago, DDA said: Mate, I'm telling you... I know a midfielder when I see one... Caicedo and Mac Alister are class acts. The issue we will still have by just replacing Jorginho with Caicedo, though, is we’d still have the same creativity issues from midfield. But I guess perhaps with Caicedo in the team he frees up Kova or whoever is next to him to focus more on getting forward without worrying about helping J5 defensively. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,943 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Pizy said: The issue we will still have by just replacing Jorginho with Caicedo, though, is we’d still have the same creativity issues from midfield. But I guess perhaps with Caicedo in the team he frees up Kova or whoever is next to him to focus more on getting forward without worrying about helping J5 defensively. Caicedo would be a vast improvement for this transfer window but we must get a proper creative mid in the summer if we can't get the Russian lad...... Edited January 17, 2023 by DDA Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,279 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, DDA said: Caicedo would be a vast improvement for this transfer window but we must get a proper creative mid in the summer if we can't get the Russian lad...... I just can't see it, just bought a Ukrainian for 80m to then pay 15m for a Russian and place them in the same squad and expect every one to just get along? Might happen sure! But what's mudryk going to think if we had over 15 million to a Russian club? The amount of politics involved is ridiculous. Edited January 17, 2023 by YorkshireBlue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,385 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 5 minutes ago, YorkshireBlue said: Exactly no consistency, how the fuck you meant to settle and perform at your best when your played out of position constantly? Ever since he came he's been playing every were possible, use you head. His confidence is absolutely shot! It's got to the point now, nobody knows where to play him. He has publicly said he can play anywhere in attack. 😂 And for what its worth, he's played at CF and ST this season, arguably his strongest positions and has looked like a pub league player the majority of the time. 1 good game in 5 and this has nothing to do with being played out of position or having average players around him. He can't dribble past opponents, he can't finish with power, he can't create, he has no balance or composure in the final third. He's simply an average player where the majority of his goals have come from being a target man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,279 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 7 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said: He has publicly said he can play anywhere in attack. 😂 And for what its worth, he's played at CF and ST this season, arguably his strongest positions and has looked like a pub league player the majority of the time. 1 good game in 5 and this has nothing to do with being played out of position or having average players around him. He can't dribble past opponents, he can't finish with power, he can't create, he has no balance or composure in the final third. He's simply an average player where the majority of his goals have come from being a target man. Thanks to this man, our club lifted a second champions league trophy and got the win at the weekend. He's alot better than he's showed and I for one believe with the right players around him, he will come good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegetable 830 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 (edited) 11 minutes ago, YorkshireBlue said: I just can't see it, just bought a Ukrainian for 80m to then pay 15m for a Russian and place them in the same squad and expect every one to just get along? Might happen sure! But what's mudryk going to think if we had over 15 million to a Russian club? The amount of politics involved is ridiculous. Yeah, I'll say it once again - people seem to not notice what is going on in the world around them. Not even going into ethics and sanctions, imagine the prominent US Citizen sending 15 millions of dollars to Russia now, just like that. Good luck. The player is of course victim here, but oh well. This is not happening and is utter shitshow if it somehow does. Edited January 17, 2023 by Vegetable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,226 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 1 hour ago, NikkiCFC said: Argentina winning Brazil away in Copa America final is more impressive than what they did at WC. Enzo wasn't even part of that team. On WC they basically draw with average Holland team and also draw with France without possibly 5,6 starters out. Lucas, Kimpembe, Kante, Pogba, Nkunku and Benzema. Considing 5 goals in those 2 games. Martinez saved in last minute of OT a loss and also he did the same against Australia in last 16 game and prevented another overtime. They lost against Saudi Arabia and beat horrid Poland and Mexico. Semis against Croatia was their best game. So Enzo or no Enzo, question is, is he really that important for them? that Copa America field was one of the weakest in the past 50 years I talked about it back when it was happening Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mhsc 1,098 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 8 hours ago, Blue Armour said: Has anyone noticed how we've agitated news outlets in the UK? Sky on youtube is constantly posting stuff about our spending, almost every other day. Just recently they posted a list of the top 5 spenders this season., and made sure to highlight Chelsea at number 1. No mention about the number of players we have out injured. But transfer fees? Oh yes. 7 hours ago, YorkshireBlue said: That's because, we are one of the most hated clubs in England. The press love anything negative they can post about us. Also blatant undercurrent of xenophobia against Americans imo, a lot of it is pure "these fucking Americans don't know how to behave like us classy Brits" Blue Armour 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,279 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 9 minutes ago, Vegetable said: Yeah, I'll say it once again - people seem to not notice what is going on in the world around them. Not even going into ethics and sanctions, imagine the prominent US Citizen sending 15 millions of dollars to Russia now, just like that. Good luck. The player is of course victim here, but oh well. This is not happening and is utter shitshow if it somehow does. Imagine getting rid of a Russian owner to then be replaced by Americans to then send 15m to Russia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,279 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 5 minutes ago, Mhsc said: Also blatant undercurrent of xenophobia against Americans imo, a lot of it is pure "these fucking Americans don't know how to behave like us classy Brits" I've never seen a classy brit, alot of the British think there are far better and more entitled to what they actually are. Which makes us more like the Americans than we think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,226 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 6 minutes ago, Mhsc said: Also blatant undercurrent of xenophobia against Americans imo, a lot of it is pure "these fucking Americans don't know how to behave like us classy Brits" British tabloid and telly media culture is toxic shite ignore it Vegetable 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegetable 830 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 Aren't this club transfers always a topic in media all over the world ever since Roman took over? Numbers click, even for non-sport people, so content farms have it easy. Plus a lot of UK pundits seem to be supporting/ex-players of United or Arsenal, so there you go. Don't see much difference with or without TB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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